WhitewalkerInPhilly

Well, there are LA: http://nypost.com/2015/10/13/mets-fan-victim-of-bloody-dodger-stadium-beatdown/ St. Louis, where their own fans have shot each other and beat down cubs fans. Jets fans, where their most famous fan Fireman Ed is beloved for being a violent trash talker. I've been to a lot of Philly sports events and there are plenty of chuckle heads, but I've seen just as bad with Bills and Sabres fans. But no the Santa Snowball incident, 20 years before I was born, still gets brought up.

Look, Philly fans get a bad rap IMHO. But seriously, an event like this pretty much shuts down that city. The papal visit erupted into so much of a sh*t show that people were driving out to NJ, parking their cars and taking the train back in.

I doubt that Manny will be cut now. A) Even optimistic projections have Manny missing a week or two and B) Even if Johnson has the stuff, it usually wise to have a veteran backup and C) Manny's contract really isn't that bad

Mid-Season form already!

Now he gets to return and fail to make this team. Rough, but seriously, even coming in now he's a long shot. His training was for the Olympics, and there is only this year left on his deal. If he and Listenbee are even close to even, you have to go with the younger guy you have the rights for 3 years down the road.

Hey Rob, big fan of your work. Could you possibly do one on Kevon Seymour in the future? He wasn't a big name circulating around at draft time, but it seems Rex has been very happy with his progress and is allegedly turning heads.

Yeah...Schwartz has a nice front 7 to work with, but man that secondary is looking bad.

I think it was more with what Tyrod is good at, but I think that was definitely part of the strategy. It does synergies well.

So...any actual updates, or is this still noise on bickering raging for months.

I hadnt, but the writeup Rob Quinn did mentioned that Ragland is a fit for what Bart Scott did. Scott was a Will, but because of the way that Ryan bunched his linebackers it was closer to 3-4 MLB.

Dez Lewis is sounding like a pleasant surprise. We all knew he was going to be a project at best, but early signs are that he's turning a corner. He's had all the measurables, just not great competition. It would nice if we struck a diamond in the rough on a 7th rounder

Yeah. Offer 3 years they could soften the blow, but they are pinched for cap space right now and will need as much as they can for Wilkerson. They'd need to free up $9 million in cap space. No way they do that without some veteran cuts or major restructures.

Yeah, they either let Fitz walk or cut the people who let him function. Or pay Wilkerson Suh type money.

They seem to really like Seymour. It would be great to find a solid player so can step in. I like Robey, but I do not want him on the outside.

I don't know how they afford Fitz even at a cap hit of $12 M. Even of they balance some of that with a signing bonus, I don't see it less than $8 M and they have $3.1 now. With the guaranteed money they have, they either restructure Wilkerson to almost no salary this year and just a signing bonus or you cut your starting center, RT or Decker.

Wow, the media got but hurt on this extraordinarly fast. Look, I get it from the team's perspective. We've just hit OTA's and everything since has been screaming about how they've overpaid Glenn, how how they are doomed because Sammy might miss some preseason, and they aren't respecting Taylor, and Whaley and the entire medical staff should be fired because Shaq will miss 5 games with a veteran backup in position. So the new rules are the "this is why we can't nice things" response and the live tweeters are throwing a hissy fit.

So we are stressing out about a player not going to something optional that he wouldn't be able to participate in anyway.

I've heard of him. But seriously, I remember him having some decent years. I would take a look

So what I'm hearing is that he has to go to surgery we knew was coming at some point, and the staff decided to bite the bullet and do it now so that his arrival would be close to Week 1, while we have a competent backup in Manny to hold things down until then. DOOOOOOOMED

4 months sounds long. Most estimates I saw were 3 months. Maybe an extra month if you factor in getting back into football shape.

Well, the good news is this: I checked out recovery times for the surgery: according to John's Hopkins orthopedics, even the more conservative estimates for a labrum recovery is 12 weeks. That would put Lawson back around the start of pre season. Maybe he doesn't start week 1, but we have Manny to fill the gap in the meanwhile.

Sacks? I don't know if that's the best measure considering Hughes is still their speed rusher. How about...tackles for loss? It will be his job to set the edge on run plays and will rotationally rush the QB. That seems like a better assessment.

You are a ray of sunshine on a cloudy day. As usual. I will be keeping Emoulds previous success in mind, and also not forget that Leroi was the hot inside scoop for a while. Lawson has gone on record that he's been playing through his injury since freshman year. Whaley said the Bills were aware of the issue and med staff cleared it. I don't see them taking Shaq in the 1st if they thought it was a serious issue.

I agree with continuity. I can't remember the last time the entire group of starters was back on the O-line. I'm not expecting magic. But we did start to see progress near the end of last year. I know from family experience that Crohns can kick your ass when not treated, and then cab have no effect when it is.

Any highlights for those who can't listen?