WhitewalkerInPhilly

So, is anyone addressing that the (alleged) sick SOB who drove through a crowd of unarmed protesters, using tactics praised by Fox News being...well, you know..documented as part of the neo-nazi march In the middle of a bunch of white supremacists? I mean, f*ck people, look what side you are defending

Are they tied to Cover 1 and Kevin Massare? Because if so, I will pay the cash money I am unwilling to give the BN

Why? Whhyyyy? It makes all the sense in the world to can Ducasse. Why would you make him a starter?

Uh huh. Almost Every year there is a team that thinks they are decebt QB play away from the playoffs. See, KC in 2013, Houston in 2016. How many more years is Denver going to keep that D together if Lynch can't take the job away? EDIT: for the record, this is not me trying to shop TT. But man, if you get a stupid good offer...

Exactlt my worry. In 2015 and 2016 we saw back to back years of QBs going 1 and 2 overall. None of those teams have made the playoffs. Goff struggled to get on the field, and we saw where Wentz is. A rookie QB early is not a cureall. Even the best cases were where you threw Carr in and let him rough it out for a few years, or Dak, where he had one of the best o-line in the league and a stud rusher. You don't get that with one year of tanking.

logic would say that no one would ever trade a 1st for Sam Bradford, king of "Ryan Fitzpatrick career stats, master of the undeserved paycheck". And yet the Vikings did

I honestly doubt that. Not that it's going to be gangbusters, and I do expect an overhaul in 2018, but week 2 was about as a vanilla offense as you can get. I fully expect to see rollouts and a healthier offensive line (and a lack of Vlad Ducasse)

We could trade Shady and Tyrod. They would still pick after the Jets. I would rather not too everything up to pick after them.

This is my worry. I highly doubt that we'd be picking ahead of the Jets and Niners. Both, especially the Jets, as desperate for a QB and I don't see the Jets giving a division rival first crack at QB.

Right now, we could use any of them

I'm a Tyrod fan, but with the offense we are running, and the receivers we have, I (and this sickens me to say it) think Peterman is a better fit. Toss in an apparent desire to tank, and it's tempting.

I was about to say something about that. We have clamped down HARD

Sorry, I've been doing chores while watching 1st team offense looks very, very good. Philly is expected to have a robust offense, and they've been shut down. 0/6 third down conversions. But Tyrod looks bad. Really bad. And I'm a fan of his, so that pains me to say it.

Ok, let's start with the biggest one then: I will concede, we should give time for proper investigation. Full rights of the accused to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. But the man currently accused of driving the car was photographed holding a shield with a white supremacist "vanguard". He was at least comfortable associating with them at their rally. The car itself, behaved in a way to cause maximum damage on unarmed persons: speeding up to hit, and then *backing up* to do additional damage. So either the person did that intentionally, or had such a reckless disregard for human life as to be a menace to society. If it is on purpose, I don't see how his cause wouldn't have motivated him to do it. If it was reckless disregard, you don't mealy mouth about how it's not your responsibility that he was linked to you. That's what most moderates of any faith used for terrorism (Christian, Muslim, he'll even Buddhists have violent sects) do. It's what Sanders did. I guess that makes difference between George Washington and Robert E Lee doesn't it? /s You're right though. And then there would he calls for Muslim leaders to denounce it, which most do. Oh, there are always wackos, but that's on all sides. What I wouldn't hear is how talking about how violent the side who got run over were.

I have one for you: Because they're cowards and bullies. I've seen some of the live streams from the night before, and the first hand accounts of students who found themselves with a torch mob in their homes. The mob congratulated itself for siezing the campus, which being a college at night in the summer, was underpopulated. So the White Supremacists, armed with torches and outnumbering their foe (about 50 to one, according to the account) had no problem with violence then while they beat the tar out of them until the cops broke it up. Meanwhile, Richard Spencer showed up. But it turns out he had a glitch megaphone, so he couldn't get the media presence he wanted. So he slipped away with his bodyguards, leaving his followers behind. The next day, with prior notice and the hard light of day, suddenly there was violence on "many sides, many sides". The men who brought rifles are now so scared that one of them decided to drive a car through a group of people with signs, and then back over them. So all evidence shows that the second they see a hint of resistance from people they bully, like most cowards and bullies, they wet themselves and ask why they're the ones in trouble.

The be fair, the city initially rejected the permit because they said they didn't think they could keep it safe. So the "Unite the Right" group sued the city to get it back. http://www.richmond.com/news/virginia/charlottesville-sued-over-permit-decision-for-unite-the-right-rally/article_250db95e-7cac-5a57-a6d5-78b8ba044937.html In fact, the ACLU supported them in their cause. So you don't get to complain, after the fact, that you were too hemmed in. By the by, it turns out a number of those counter protesters *did* have a permit, according to that article.

I would say look at signing him here. The man is solid when not injured

Apparently McDermott had to yell at them a bit to get people to liven up, and then scuffles broke out. Why am I not shocked?

*shrug* That's what I got from npr. They usually have decent sources. I don't think I missed the swastika flags though. No matter how you want to slice it, those are some Nazis.

... Dude, they were chanting "Jew will not replace us." You may find SJW's annoying. I once had one tell me she couldn't understand how I could have friends with different political views. But this is some pretty straight Nazi BS. This has been around a loooooong time, well before this generation of sjw cropped up. Exactly

He's been harsher on Jeff Sessions, a guy he appointed and is angry at because the man made a choice that everyone else said "yep, it's a bad look to have the guy you can hire and fire on a whim to be in charge of investigating you, even if there is no fire"

This is one of the few things I agree with the man on. My wife to be works in the medical field, and has to be extremely careful when it comes to treating people with chronic pain. The problem is, say a law abiding citizen goes in for surgery, or is in an accident. They are legally proscribed opioid for their pain, but the dosage isn't right or runs out too soon. The strict prescription restrictions mean you can't get more. The closest and cheapest replacement, if you are already will to go outside the law, is heroin.

The thing is, I kept hearing about property damage and looting at a protest undoes it's work. In fact, last night I heard plenty of quips about a lack of property damage. So if that logic is in play, how do you not damn the whole side when they start running through a public place with literal torches and literally committing vehicular homicide? How is that even close to equivalent?

Had we gotten a few firsts, aka what capital it to draft him maybe I would entertain that. But no, we sent over a solid, (not spectacular) player for a reject and a 2nd round pick. Gild the turd if you like, but it still reeks in the August heat

On record: No. You traded 2 very promising young players for average at best talent and a 2nd and 3rd round pick. I have seen tanking in the NFL and it is called the Browns. Not only that, if there is going to be a vet cap dump, it's going to be NEXT year. That is two years of floundering for maybe the shot at a magic bullet.