WhitewalkerInPhilly

Trying to hide who your starters are is a pretty good sign that they aren't talented enough to make it obvious. No judgement, We've had seasons that bad.

I've moved out of state, so actually reading a hard copy is only possible when I visit. I didn't mind giving them extra advertiser dollars to check in, but man...I can't say that most of the articles these days are worth going past the paywall for. Sully and Vic do nothing but beat the same drum, and Gleason is even worse. The best reporter they had in years Ty Dunne, shipped out.

I'm annoyed. I'm in that little pocket where it's only the late game. Looks like a stream for me How does Carolina get the Bills and Jets while parts of jersey get left out?

To be fair, he did get hurried a lot in the games I remember. I'm just hoping that with Glenn back on the left, and Dawkins on the right, and some decent TE blocking we can do some well designed rollouts that make that front 7 bite.

It does suck for the Phins. I know they would have lost home field advantage and ticket sales, but jeez, effectively having to take a first week bye is rough. Of course, I'm not complaining, but it it happened to the Bills I would be screaming bloody murder.

Well, they are rolling with Josh. You really think Taylor is going to get yanked in the Jets game?

Best news I've heard all week.

I do think getting Luck is a long shot, and I assume that it depends on how bad the Colts are this year. If Andrew Luck is significantly injured this season, and it becomes obvious that he needs to be put on ice, even in their lackluster division the Colts would probably finish close to the bottom. If the Bills were to offer their first, Kansas's 1st and a 2018 first? If you want a serious rebuild, there are worse places to start.

Another Panthers player, why am I not surprised? But look, we were looking at probably only carrying 2 QBs. If we are getting one to be active on gameday, and to be there for some trick plays and ST, hey, it's something.

Do we need to do anything special in terms of cash to join in? It looks like the Survivor is just for fun, I would hate to be surprised. EDIT: I picked the Bills to surviving week 1, mostly because I imagine that if they don't I won't be either.

I don't get it. Tolbert is ok, but Jwill looked better. What are we doing with the roster spot.

ANNND which QB was widely considered a bust? Which QB has been able to ride excellent defensive play along with a HoF running back and high YAC recievers. Thank you, you did end the thread. You proved my point. It turns out, when you surround a mediocre QB with tools like the Chiefs had and the Harbaugh Niners had, you get repeat playoff appearances. I'll be watching with great interest how the Chiefs look without Maclin, Ware, Hali and Charles.

I thought that was a joke. But no, that was the excuse give...

I'd do it for a pick. Maybe a third or fourth rounder. Boldin looked broken down, but I don't want to give NE anything for free.

I don't know about that. Yards Per Game Yards Per Attempt TD INT 2015 217.9 7.4 20 7 2016 233.5 7.2 15 8 Yards Per Game Yards Per Attempt TD INT 2015 216.8 8.0 20 6 2016 201.5 6.9 17 6 Tell me, which is which? It's almost as if the cast of players around you has an effect on a QBs play...

Ok, you want me to go on record: McBeane doesn't get "their" team until 2019 at least This year is a wash. I hope I'm wrong, but we were looking at an outside chance at the playoffs to begin with even before the draft. At draft day, we picked up some nice pieces, but it became obvious that the FO's eyes were on the future. The team passed on some interesting star power talent in areas it could have used help in (Howard, Reddic) or swing on an unproven QB (Mahomes) to take an unsexy but solid pick in White and stash a first. But you honestly can't tell me that we are going to get the same production out of EJ Gaines and White as Gilmore and Darby. Maybe we gained more long term, but short term it hurts, no question. A healthy Sammy is undoubtedly better than normal Jordan Matthews. And I would even be fine with these choices, were it not for the fact that veteran cut down year is 2018. That's when Dareus becomes cuttable, Kyle's contract is done, Shady, Clay, Hughes and Ritchie provide big cap space if cut, and Taylor has almost nothing guaranteed. Which means that, if there's going to be a year to stash a ton of dead money, that money goes to 2019. You also have all those draft picks lined up, which tell me one thing: rookie QB in 2018. The problem is, if you are betting the farm to get a rookie QB and put him in with J Will as your running back, and Zay Jones and no one else as your starting receiver (Matthews finishes his contract) , and you're ripping apart the interior of your D-line, it's going to be a massacre. And that's even if they get the right rookie. Maybe I'm wrong. Hell I want to be wrong. I call myself a Kool Aid drinker. Maybe a resurgent defense and an offense that does just enough gets us into the playoffs. Maybe we just need a retool, which a loaded draft class gives us the future. But right now it looks like a two year rebuild.

And yet they keep bringing in players who look sub-par, because they've worked with them before.

Normally, I would laugh. But I seriously don't know if he's worse than Siemian or Lynch at this point. I think there's a decent chance he starts.

You know, I was hoping for a turnaround for Seymour, and he really disappointed me this camp. Still, that's pretty thin. I am a bit worried that Clay hasn't done all that much, but we do need a deep vertical threat. If anything, he's a new Goodwin.

Drafting a rookie in the top rounds is always a risk. Luck and RGIII went 1 and 2, and that is so different in result. Goff could barely make the field over Case Keenum. I really hope that even if they draft a QB high they let TT take another year as the starter, or at least force the rookie to beat him out.

I...know that I shouldn't cheer for the Pats. I know I shouldn't cheer for injury. I know two wrongs don't make a right. So all I will say is that the best outcome for the Bills would be the Chiefs losing, but in the process that Brady gets knocked out for the season.

I'm not a fan of tanking in general, and I really don't recommend it in football. The most successful case of tanking in any sport is, arguably, the 76ers, who have spent 3 out of the five years I've lived in the area actively trying to lose, and then last year when starters had even a hint of injury kept them out. I say "arguably" because despite all of those picks, and finally looking like a strong team in 2017, they haven't done anything yet. And that's in basketball, where one or two next level players can define you for a decade. We've seen the Browns be the Browns for...how long? So if the Jets want to try for the 1st overall pick, I'm tempted to let them.

This is what I have been hoping for. I was confused when I didn't see any rollouts or bootlegs called for Taylor, when that was arguably the easiest way for him to work short to intermediate throws. Dennison did it a lot with Siemian to start the season last year in Denver, and at least at first I gave them a decent amount of success. If this is the case, part of me is wondering if putting TT behind that abysmal offensive line was on purpose so they don't give anything away for the start of the season. I want to see Taylor playing with Glenn and Dawkins on the edge, with Miller back inside and Vlad in a gulag.

It is what it's supposed to be in theory. Please let it be like this week 1

Any update, conclusively, on the injury? I mean, I know he says he'll play, but players always say that.