Captain Caveman

Not defending Tom B. (I know that's the 11th commandment around here) but c'mon, that guy did not think they were garbage. Did he leave them at the curb? I doubt it. The dude's a convicted bank robber.

Because he hasn't been able to stay healthy, and giant lineman with knee problems aren't a great investment once they hit 30.

I'd feel better if Tyler Durden was reporting this.

TOUCHDOWN JAMIE MUELLER

Coaching salaries in the NFL do tend to be guaranteed. I'd be willing to bet that a large portion of Dick's contract is guaranteed, or he would have been out on his butt after last year's miserable finish.

I for one would be pissed if having a good offensive line is more important, since I won countless games with Antowain Smith, Travis Henry, Marshawn and some pretty terrible offensive lines. Being a Bills fan, the last thing I want is realism. I buy it every couple of years, because I know its the closest I'm going to get to a Bills Super Bowl win.

I'm aware that the situation does not seem to point to his wife as a suspect. All I'm saying is that given how cut and dry this case seems, the police have been very careful to say that while his wife is not a suspect at this time, they are also not ruling out any scenarios, including the possibility that his wife may have been involved. I'll state one more time, that I am not implying she was involved. I doubt she was. All I'm saying is that her not being a suspect at this time, and having been ruled out as a suspect are two very different things, and from everything I've read she has not been ruled out as a suspect, although evidence made public to this point certainly does not seem to point to her involvement.

I don't mean to imply at apply at all that she was involved, only that it seemed to me that the police were very careful in their statements that nothing could or should be ruled out.

Tim, please correct me if I'm wrong, but while authorities have not classified his wife as a suspect, they have also been very careful to not rule anything out.

What about Moss do you like? His 1 start in two years? His ridiculously low production even considering that low number of starts? WTF are you people seeing in this numbnuts that I don't see?

Everyone keeps reiterating that the Broncos are cutting him because he doesn't fit their new scheme. BS. Did he fit there scheme last year when he only had 2.5 sacks? Here are his numbers compared to two guys we already have who everybody on this board loves to hate: Jarvis Moss TACKLES SACK FF 2008 12 2.5 0 Ryan Denney TACKLES SACK FF 2008 58 4 1 Chris Kelsay TACKLES SACK FF 2008 47 2 1

Yeah, I was in College at the time, and it was about 6 weeks before my roommates hid / destroyed that thing. I definitely deserved worse. Good times.

I think the issue that everyone on this board has is that Whitner is fairly obviously our best safety right now. Can you name an example of a player who is starting on our team due to their draft position rather than talent?

That's so crazy it just might work. No probably not. But it could. If... Denver thinks that Marshall is damaged goods and is willing to take the best offer for him (since he's in the last year of his contract and could be facing a suspension.) Considering the chances of Marshall playing even one more full season in Denver, I'd say that Josh Reed and a second round pick don't so bad. If... Chicago thinks that the Cutler to Orton combo could really jump start their offense and is willing to take a risk on a troubled player If... well, the Bills would probably be crazy not to pull the trigger on this one. I think this article is complete speculation, but it does almost make sense when you think about the players and situations involved. But that doesn't mean there's any indication it is even being discussed by anyone who counts.

Newsflash: Using the word "cussed" does not make one an ignorant redneck.

You're kidding, right? This guy actually chose jail over rehab when it was offered by a judge. I doubt he'll ever play again.

Stay away from the west side!

I'm pretty sure we haven't actually signed him. From what I can find, we brought him in for try- outs, and he did get a few good reviews, but he didn't sign a contract with us. Could be that we didn't think he was healthy enough, or it could be he wants to try and catch on somewhere where they don't already have 6-7 receivers pretty much guaranteed to make the team.

I'd rather have him making a profit if it means his family will be able to pay the luxury tax and hold on to the team.

If your argument is that it's allowed because players know when the tests are coming, or are able to get away with masking agents (which also raise flags) then are you saying the league also allows them to use performance enhancers? In most of the 4 major leagues, there are ways of getting around testing, however, this is different than saying the league allows use of marijuana.

You make some good points, but I think what consistently gets lost in discussions like these is that Jauron is evaluating these guys 7 days a week. If he thinks someone is not ready, I have a hard time disagreeing with him, especially when it's his job on the line.

Not true. NHL follows the WADA prohibited list which includes Marijuana. http://www.nhlpa.com/PerformanceEnhancing/index.asp http://www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/documen..._20_Sept_08.pdf NBA also doesn't allow pot. http://news.findlaw.com/legalnews/sports/d...ball/index.html and MLB http://www.cleveland.com/sports/index.ssf/...ed_drugs_p.html

http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/7816844/

I want to know how you have such insight to say that the younger players are better than the veterans he started them over. Even if some rookies might have more talent (e.g. James Hardy) I would disagree that that makes him a better player than say, Josh Reed if Hardy can't tun the right routes, or block to save his life. I'm not saying Reed or Hardy was the better player last year, I'm saying that D. Jauron was in a much better position than you or I to make that decision, and to think that he's sitting his "better" players just because they're young is ludicrous. Jauron, and any other coach in the league will pretty much always play the players who give them the best chance to win on any given Sunday. And to say that Jauron will play someone with more talent (but who might be a liability) is just stupid now that his job is on the line. He needs to win now, and can't afford young players to cost him games with rookie mistakes.

What do you base this on?