Captain Caveman

If he wasn't yet kneeling, he was not giving himself up. You can't have it both ways. Kneel and start the playclock, or dawdle for time and take a legal hit. IN any case, the hit was obviously illegal, I am just of the opinion that Manuel was exposed to a normal, legal hit (which I would have been ok with.)

The issue isn't that his helmet came off on a kneel down. It wasn't technically a kneel down, since he was obviously trying to stay up to eat extra clock. The issue is that the QBs helmet came off at all. Which indicates that the QB was hit in the head. Which is a penalty.

I predict we win 9-6 in OT.

So who shot JR?

This is not true, the clock stops on a change of possession.

Mods - sorry I missed the other Cleveland thread. I did a quick scan and also searched for Cleveland but I didn't see it, feel free to merge or delete.

The backup often will act as an extra QB coach, especially with a vet backing up a rookie. EJ could definitely learn from Fitz on the sidelines.

Yeah, I'm surprised Hopkins hasn't been IR'd. I think it has more to do with Carpenter's history of being awesome and then terrible in the same season.

I would bet that most of us had this win as a gimme at the beginning of the season and up until a week ago. To me this game is now a big question mark, especially with the difference in how we've played at home vs. on the road (which I think carried over from last year's team too.) I don't like our chances on Offense, especially if Jackson or Spiller can't go. I think our D can certainly stop the Browns offense, but not if they're on the field for 40 minutes after a short week. What do you think?

I have definitely been yelling for some screen passes, especially during the Jets game when they were teeing off on our O line. My hope is that Hackett has the same thought, but has a legitimate reason not to use it. Maybe he hasn't liked our execution of the screen game in practice (could be due to Brown's slowness or a lack of touch / accuracy from EJ.) I think we are going to need to make use of it at some point this year, especially on some of our road games.

Heard this mentioned on WGR this morning. It also sounded like they had this all worked out ahead of time in a chart, which is even better.

I'm ok with it as long as he actually has a decent one.

I usually dislike celebrations (I prefer the "act like you've been there before, and expect to be there again soon" approach) but I LOL'd yesterday at this. I hope we get to see it a lot more for many years.

It was going to be 4th and 45 seconds, and only because we burned 3 seconds extra on each of the first 3 downs.

2-2

happy to eat crow Marcell's sack dance made me smile don't lose to cleveland

I sincerely hope That we will not be crushed by Baltimore Ravens eyeballs pecked out but left for the vultures by the baltimore ravens

Was just going to post that and you beat me to it. Doug Legursky's was also pretty good. More like Doug Le-Worst-sky

Whatever they're paying him I'll triple it.

I like this one better. http://www.theonion.com/articles/who-are-we-rooting-for,7454/

What if we signed a Guard instead.

Not if he keeps gaining 9 yards on 10 carries or whatever he had yesterday.

Maybe we'll get lucky and this will make a difference? Probably not unless we can get healthy quick. http://deadspin.com/tmz-ravens-in-stripper-instigated-party-bus-brawl-1372030647