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27 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:
This guy makes mistake after mistake. He says that "the last three Super Bowl-winning QBs have been in the top five in INTs," and he shows a graphic where he says that Mahomes was tied for 4th last year. Um, no, Davis Mills, Dak, Josh, Derek Carr and Cousins all had 13 or more. Mahomes was in a four-way tie for sixth, putting him in the top nine. Not 4th.
The same graphic says that Brady was tied for 3rd with 12 the year he won the SB. Yeah, um, wrong again. He also was tied for sixth, though with three other guys.
He said Mahomes had the 4th most interceptions in 2022 and Brady the 6th most in 2021, which is objectively true:
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1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said:
Yeah, it seems a lot of people are bypassing optimism for blind optimism.
I really hope he plays. And considering he was on the field every day this week says to me he cleared a lot of the stages of protocol fairly early. So that's a good sign.
But the fact remains that 6 days in Concussion Protocol is an incredibly small window. There are examples of people doing it in a week. But less than a week? I don't know how anyone can be so sure that's definitely going to happen.
I'm extremely hopeful. But I won't be remotely surprised if the league doesn't clear him, regardless of what he's been saying.
1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said:I've seen that. And I've seen the quotes from him.
But all it takes is one concussion specialist for the League to say "I'm sorry, but 6 days isn't enough time" and all of that doesn't matter.
Again, I'm very optimistic and i'm really, REALLY hopeful he gets cleared. But it's not a sure thing until it is and there's things at play that can supercede everything we've seen and heard.
30 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:Neither do I. But it would be unwise to think that it's impossible that league PR isn't also in play. Clearing a guy of a head injury in less than a week and then he takes another head injury that causes damage and they'd come under fire for clearing him so quickly.
Again, I'm all for optimism and I have my fingers crossed he's cleared. But it's coming down to a decision by a doctor within hours of kickoff - regarding clearing a guy of Concussion Protocol in less than a Week.
So cautious optimism is as far as I'm willing to go.
3 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:Not specifically. But if the Doctor he sees is under the feeling that 6 days is too soon, they can be overly critical of symptoms and fail them simply because they aren't comfortable being the one to make the call and put themselves on the line for a quick turnaround that could potentially lead to another head injury in quick succession. Especially following what happened to Tua.
Again, I want him to play. I think he will. I'm hopeful he will. But I feel like a lot of posters are setting themselves up for disappointment by refusing to see any possibility that he isn't cleared. It's literally coming down to the wire.
How do you really feel?
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1 minute ago, HerdMentality said:
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Just now, Georgia Bill said:
How is that? Only two games played so far this weekend.
All 4 remaining teams that play tomorrow won last week. 2 will lose.
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Just now, Nephilim17 said:
Highly entertaining game but if Josh made the same throws either guy tonight has made, he'd be roasted.
That's kind of a low bar, considering one is a first year starter and the other is a second year player who was the last pick of the draft.
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Did Purdy just yell "What are you doing?"??? Take it easy, Mr. Irrelevant.
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Just now, DapperCam said:
Why can’t defenders drop Allen’s picks?
They want the souvenir.
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Just now, AlfaBill said:
Don’t laugh but I always thought Losman could’ve have been a solid starter if he a better cast around him and a chance to learn the game.
The Bills traded up in front of Green Bay to take Losman because the Packers were enamored with him. Could you imagine a world where he was groomed behind Favre and put together a Hall of Fame career?
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Just now, jcamm1966 said:
Funny how Cowherd thought Love was a bum about week 5 now he loves him
He's almost always wrong on anything that requires independent analysis, he just goes hard on conventional wisdom. But he bails as soon as the script is flipped, like with Josh Allen.
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7 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:
This isn't that complicated
I know. You're picking an arbitrary statistical threshold that you've decided means something it doesn't. It's leading you to waste your Saturday night.
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I'm probably crazy, but I swear every 49er is juicing. Deebo, Kittle, et al make no damn sense.
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Just now, Trev said:
Concussions didn’t even exists in the 80s…
That's correct, back then players just got their bell rung.
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2 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:
And here we goooo. No Taron? No Rasul? No Bernard? No Benford? No Gabe? OH BOY.
Huh? Rasul is a go, Taron probably is, too. Bernard is a definite maybe as of right now.
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10 minutes ago, scuba guy said:
FYI how many times does Josh do an interview and say he is a great qb.
I didn't hear him refer to himself, he said Stroud was a great QB.
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Just now, Mikie2times said:
Mobility and escapability when not being converted into rushing output would benefit passing output. I'm just using what history exists in the league. What you say might end up being true eventually but why should you or anybody else be the one that determines it's true before it actually is?
You're the one making declarations.
I'm saying it's arbitrary for you to make those declarations but especially considering the evidence throughout the current NFL. I'm not trying to predict the future, its happening now.
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9 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:
I think a better question to ask is why do QB's who have above average rushing production not win the Super Bowl? My guess would be it's easier to take away the legs than the arm and if that is a big contributor to what you do it can really hurt productivity. Allen is probably as hybrid as we have seen but my argument was not that Allen can't do it, I hope to hell he can. It's that I don't value his rushing production the same as passing production. If it was done with his arm he would go into a statistical group that is responsible for every win in modern Super Bowl history. As it stands he's part of a group that can't win one. Hurts almost changed that. Allen has as good a chance as any.
The sample size of NFL QBs who are great runners is small enough that it reduces the already long odds of any niche group winning a Super Bowl. Mobility and escapability, on the other hand, have long been important traits for great QBs, many of whom have won Super Bowls.
You're arbitrarily picking a statistic that doesn't necessarily correlate due to the historically small sample, especially in light of how the NFL is changing.
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6 minutes ago, Mikie2times said:
When was the last time a QB won the Super Bowl with more than 10% of the total TD's coming on the ground regardless of how many TD's? They can have a thousand for all I care.
Allen is 4th in TD passes this season, and 3 away from 2nd most. Why does the fact that he also scored a bunch of rushing TDs negatively impact the odds of winning the Super Bowl?
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It seems like most talking heads are picking Kansas City, and a lot of them are treating it as "heroic" or "gutsy". I've watched several of these commentators act like it's a spicy hot take to pick Patrick Mahomes. The Vegas line favors the Bills by a slim margin due to homefield, but no one is disrespecting Mahomes.
Let's face it, picking KC is safe. Their AFC playoff record in recent years is phenomenal, and no one doubts that. But it's conventional wisdom rather than actual analysis of the 2023 season. It's lazy at best because they're trying to have it both ways: the Chiefs will win and it's also going to be a classic Mahomes-Allen QB duel.
I think these two teams in 2023 are vastly different than in prior seasons. I think the Bills are locked in and focused better than 2021 or any of the 90s teams. I think the Chiefs are beatable on the road and the strength of their defense is overblown.
I think it'll be the Bills by a billion.
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The Ravens D is swarming, but I'm not impressed with Bobby Slowik at all.
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This version of the Buffalo Bills is legitimately tough. I never thought I'd be impressed by a punter gutting it out.
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The players overwhelmingly wanted Pierce. The inmates can't run the asylum, but they clearly responded to him. Dan Campbell's success in Detroit is a recent example of a player's coach that earned the respect of the lockerroom, I bet that was a factor.
Not to mention, quality candidates are also probably not lining up for the job.
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6 minutes ago, NewEra said:
Klein being brought up isn’t necessarily bad news for Bernard. It’s just not good news. It could be good for every other positional injury though
Correct me if I'm wrong, but with Dodson back in and Spector out, promoting Klein puts us at the same number of LBs as the Pittsburgh game if Bernard is active.
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10 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:
The only games not at Arrowhead in Mahomes's post season career was at neutral site games (Super Bowls) and his passing rating is only 79.7 with 5 TD's and 4 INT's. It remains to be seen if those stats were fluky or if he doesn't perform as well away from Arrowhead. We'll see how he does in the most hostile postseason environment he's ever faced.
I'd take it obviously, but I didn't realize how ugly his Super Bowl stats were:
1/21/24 Division Playoff GAMEDAY Bills vs Chiefs Pregame Thread
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Blitzing Mahomes is dangerous.