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McDermott gets 2019. This regime needs to show they can bring in good veteran talent (Bolden, Vontea Davis, Phillip Gaines, Kelvin Benjamin, Trent Murphy, Star, Marshall Newhouse, Bodine, etc have all been huge busts) and show they won’t have the 3-4 games a year where we don’t belong on the same field as our opponents. I like what he is building but he might not be the guy that gets it done, ala Tony Dungy

So ***** how the refs are influencing charger games to try and get them fans. It’s impossible to watch NFL game and think they are called subjectively anymore

Didn't Nate openly hate on Buffalo in the past?

Our players need to learn the flag isn't coming, we get hit with so many ticky-tack or fathom calls that we might as well start fighting the other team and taking cheap shots. ***** them, we're not above that. It worked against Jax, what was the convo that got caught on the mic: Ref to McDermott: "You need to control your players" McDermott to Ref: "You need to call it both ways" Ref walked away with his tail in between his legs and we started getting some calls. It's not the refs fault, they are just doing what their bosses tell them to do & the league doesn't respect us because our fan base will always support the team, so we will never get the benefit of a call going our way.

Should have been more clear. How many HoF’ers since the merger? You are right. But Detroit’s success is much like the Montreal Canadians, there were only like 6 teams so of course, they won championships and had HoF’ers before newspapers were printed in color

The Lions are the Bills, with much less Hall of Famers & zero Super Bowl appearances

I thought the average salary for refs were $250k w/ full benefits, plus they are in a union

I really concerned with the level of talent this regime can bring in. They have killed it in the draft but their pro scouting must be the worse in the league. I can't think of a single valuable player McBean has brought in

Holding the end zone should have been a safety was a big one and when the defender touched Allen’s helmet, by the book it’s an automatic penalty. Refs were really bad today and I’m glad Hughes made sure he called that ref a b1tch, in a 4 point loss those calls made the difference. It’s really not the refs fault, they are instructed how to influence the game by the league, so technically they are doing their job

Another bad look for a kneeler

I don’t, but there are such things as lookalike audiences. The difference between NFL & WWF, is football is not completely fixed, the refs are just instructed to influence the game, it is possible for a team to overcome & a game that is not going to be called in their favor.

If the NFL carried about competitive balance, it wouldn't be a discussion. Millions of people watch the WWF, when they know it's fixed, same with the NFL. It's still entertaining & half of the entertainment is figuring out how the refs will influence the game. Ratings & narratives, i don't understand why this is so hard

Have you watched an NFL game before? There’s a narrative that the league wants to push & the refs help execute that narrative. The last 2 weeks every talking head was talking about how all the rules only benefit offense and that defense was afterthought. The NFL wanted to say “Hey, defense is important too” on a prime time game and instructed the refs to make sure defenses shined. Like are you just looking at box scores? #callitbothways

Unless we start holding these refs accountable, by starting fights on the field (last week) or something like 2001 bottlegate, they will continue to the call the games the way they were instructed to.

All that matters is how the refs are instructed to call the games. This game they wanted an emphasis on defense to counteract the Rams Chiefs MNF, where they wanted the emphasis on offense. If you think refs go out there, objectively, and try to call fair games, you are mistaken

I’d take O’Leary over Croom or Logan Thomas any day

Or the Dolphins suck. Averaging less than 2 TDs a game, is why he's a backup

Most people bring sneak their own cans into the stadium. Fournette deserves it. His teammate called us trash for months, then got trashed thrown at him after starting a fight. I’m glad our players finally stood up for themselves

Didn't we give up a 3rd & 30 in that game?

Kyle would probably die on the field if you let him. If he comes back, i could see it in a limited role behind the Phillips brothers, playing a limited amount of snaps and providing veteran leadership. I hope he plays forever

I disagree, I thought he played with alot of balls. Almost made a comeback at Denver, always felt like maybe you had a chance

Sucked after that? Orton finished that season strong, if the defense doesn’t melt down to the 3-13 Raiders, they make the playoffs with him. 1) Orton 2) Tyrod 3) Bledsoe 4) Fitzy 5) Matt Barkley? We’ve has probably 20 QBs start for us since 2000 & it’s hard to come up with 5 that were semi-decent.

Look like he can make an NFL throw from the pocket Play a full 4 quarters of good football

High taxes, no QB in a small market isn't a good recipe to attract top talent, I really hope Allen shows promise and McDermott can make us a contender

You don't think we are going to have to overpay for players to come to play for one of the worse offenses of all time