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I still remember Brian Cox disrespecting our fans over 15 years ago. I want Chan to put spiller in situations to kill the Fish just like Thurman did with screens. Absolutely tear them a new one. Some might say that the rivalry isn't as great as in the past. But in my mind it's still as big as ever. Squish the fish and toss them under the seat of Parcell's car seat. Go Bills!!!

I Really liked reading what you wrote. Finding a qb, any qb with the talent and "insane confidence" to lead the players "into the breach" and to get the players to find that extra something in themselves that they normally wouldn't have had. A qb who the players will follow into oblivion if need be out of loyalty.

This is the kind of confidence we need in a qb. I hope it develops into a kick ass take no prisoners type mentality that rubs off on the rest of the offense. We need a leader. Maybe Brohm is getting his mojo back.

Thanks Fluffhead

I've never blocked or ignored anyone on here before. But once I figure it out you're my first candidate. You lack class, tact, and respect. You offer nothing productive. The one thing you're good at is trying to cause drama. Utterly classless.

Lol. Well your post made too much level headed sense.

I completely agree.

I think it's more about good solid drafting and proper developement of young players rather than where you draft.

I actually felt no damage. The post was intended to promote discussion. The thread lasted a lot longer than I expected. Why do you get so much joy from this so called "damage"? It shows your true character more and more.

Haha! Hossage you have some great come backs I have to admit.

I'm hoping for 800 plus. I prefer you to be right tho. I'm seriously considering picking him up in the fantasy draft if he slides. He might be my Ray Rice for this year.

I think the Bills will eventually. But what season do you mean? And what happened to Dakota fanning?

Talk like this makes me froth at the mouth for good things to come

How do I reply to such fabrication?

I respect your reply Tony. I think our team will be struggling less at week 17 than at the beginning of the season. But that goes without saying. It will be a learning process for the young Bills. I'm not sure yet how much we'll struggle but I imagine it will be a lot this year. I think the ship is being righted tho. I was out in the back yard watching the fireworks and having a good introspective talk with my brother and checking postings on here too. I hope you had a good 4th too Tony. I hope you had a good 4th too Tony.

Well made point and an awsome quote as well. Churchill was a wise fellow indeed. I'm glad he was there to lead when he was.

Haha! You're right. And now getting hitched is even less enticing to me.

I agree. Albany made some very good points. Excellent list.

My question asked for more of an in depth reply than your answer showed. Some people here understood what I was getting at. I was asking for something further than simple optimism or pessimism. And seriously is it too much to ask for a civil discussion instead of barbaric personal attacks?

I never said I prayed for us to win. I'm a realistic optimist. Nothing less and nothing more. please don't put words in my mouth.

I think i was a bit too vague with my first post. What I really was trying to get at was: Are the pessimists on this board just pessimistic about the Bills are are you all pessimists in general with all things? I think we all get pessimistic from time to time. It's only natural. I've read people calling themselves "realistic pessimists" on here. I consider myself a realistic optimist. Definitely not a blind optimist. Realistic: I agree that our 0-line needs more talent and more experience. We are not set at QB yet. Our D needs time to learn the new system. We have a new HC and we all know what happened with the last 3. Optimism: Our HC has a history of making more with less in the NFL. Our young players will gain more valuable experience this season. I'm not trying to bash you pessimists. Just trying to understand my fellow fans. We're all in this together. The more successful people in life seem to have a more optimistic view rather than a pessimistic. I hope that most of you pessimists don't let the pessimism control your whole viewpoint on life. I think most HC's are realistic about the talent they have and are also optimistic/positive about their abilities to mold and make a team into a contender and win. Ok it's the 4th of July and it's time to clean up and fire up the grill. I wish all you optimists, realists, pessimists, and every combination a Happy 4th of July! Go Bills!! Oh and Red, I was in HS during the glory years too. Started watching the Bills in 87-88

I'm just curious about the make up of some of the people on here. Is it in your genes that some of you are so pessimistic of the Bills? Is it so deeply ingrained in your souls that the outlook is so bad? I know that most of us here have an optimistic outlook of the Bills, no matter how bleak things have looked for a while. The majority of us have read up and studied our team and know things haven't worked out the best for years. But we realize things can go better. How can things go worse? We've upgraded our D and we have a man in charge who is known for making the most of an O. If we had upgraded our O in the draft instead of the D, I bet some of you would still find something to complain about. Seriously though, I'm just curious, have some of you been so pessimistic all your life? I'm not saying at all that you shouldn't post. I actually like reading your points of views at times because it's good to see different aspects and views of the game. But really, pessimism can go too far. I'de much rather read optimistic posts from people who do their research (like a lot of people here do). Thoughts?

OK maybe the issue isn't as dead as i thought. But you could still be a bit more tactful with your responses.

Agreed. Spiller wasn't drafted to be a #2 wideout. I'm glad you caught all that Kelso had said. Perhaps Trent doesn't have as much field vision as i thought he did. This is a frightening thought. Mark Kelso must've been frustrated as hellz. I hate it how the cameras don't show all the players as the plays unfold. Makes it hard for us to analyze each play and play slow motion to see if everyone is positioned where they should be as the play happens.