GaryPinC

Well here, it's the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/10/boys-more-at-risk-from-pfizer-jab-side-effect-than-covid-suggests-study This compares transient myocarditis to Covid hospitalization at ages 12-15 years. On the other hand, my 15 year old son is over a month out from his Covid infection and still doesn't have his sense of taste back. Why is that and what does it mean down the line? Risks can be relative. I don't know anyone who states there is no long term risk to vaccination, only that it is very minimal. As a non-teen adult, risk of long term effects from Covid are far higher.

You're dead on. Well, the armorer was a big problem on this movie. 24 years old and barely any experience: https://www.thewrap.com/rust-armorer-inexperience-hannah-gutierrez-fired-nicolas-cage-film/ Of course, it falls on the decision-makers for putting her in this position. “The best part about my job is just showing people who are normally kind of freaked out by guns how safe they can be and how they’re not really problematic unless put in the wrong hands.” That's the wrong-headed attitude to have as the gun safety person. It's not unique, I've met NRA instructors who are equally as arrogant. But it's wrong. A gun is always, always a risk and requires constant mental diligence and sterling habits when they are being handled to minimize the risk of an accident in a dynamic situation. Pretending education and experience negates the possibility of an accident invites mental carelessness and thus increased risk of accidents. "She tucked pistols under her armpits and carried rifles in each hand that were ready to be used in a scene. Firearms were aimed at people. She turned around and the pistols that were tucked under her armpits were pointing back at people." This is wrong on so many levels I just shudder and wince reading it. Arrogance and inexperience. I'm an upland bird hunter and have been handling guns for close to 40 years. Choking underbrush can conceal a blaze-orange colleague 10 yards away, let alone a dog on the ground and birds who decide to stop running and take to the wing randomly in any direction. Jessie Ventura was full of s***. Accidents can happen to anyone and it's critical never to downplay that.

I use Russia because their population is extremely distrustful of the government, has been severely under-vaccinated, the government has enacted few restrictions through this, and I've seen articles for over a year on how the population is apathetic to Covid (life sucks, throw Covid on the pile and tough it out). https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2021/oct/19/apathy-mistrust-in-russia-cited-for-low/ This, to my eyes and ears, most closely mirrors the comments of the anti-vaxxers on here. You look at their deaths and hospitalizations and see how they've never come back to baseline and are just stair stepping upwards. Now, of course, they are finally enacting restrictions and lockdowns. Sweden is a country that has trusted their government and is generally regarded as taking a proactive approach as citizens. Given the difference in population distribution and world location, I am not sure it's fair to compare Sweden's numbers to the US. Plus, there are high government officials who feel the Swedish approach failed pre-vaccination. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-17/sweden-s-top-covid-strategist-is-losing-the-population-s-trust “The Swedish people have suffered enormously in difficult conditions,” King Carl XVI Gustaf told state broadcaster SVT. When it comes to the strategy deployed in Sweden, he said, “I think we have failed.” Much of the blame has been directed toward the chief architect of Sweden’s strategy, Anders Tegnell, its state epidemiologist. A poll published on Thursday showed that support for him and his employer has slumped over the past two months." "Almost 8,000 Swedes have died of Covid-19. That compares with less than 1,000 in Denmark, about 480 in Finland and just over 400 in Norway." The other countries are about half the size of Sweden. WRT Florida, they got bent over pretty good by Delta a couple months ago. When you can show me data that large percentages of the hospitalizations and deaths were from vaccinated people then you might have a point, but thus far what I've seen is vaccinated percentages of these are still very small. So yes, the vaccines are not perfect and a little less effective against Delta but still the way to beat it.

The pandemic is ending when we can stabilize Covid occurrences with a minimum of deaths and hospitalizations. The world has shown that natural immunity from free/semi-free circulating and mutating Covid is a horribly wrong idea. See Russian numbers. Vaccines coupled with slowly rising natural immunity is what gets us there. For those worried about long term effects of the vaccines, go take a hard look at the long term effects of Covid and realize that is riskier. Florida and the south showed us that as of late summer we're not there yet. California, on the other hand, fared much better. The holidays are almost upon us and corresponding winter outbreak in Jan/Feb will tell us how close we are to ending the pandemic.

Well on April 30th, one day after firing Whaley, Wawrow's article includes this line: https://www.boston.com/sports/nfl/2017/04/30/buffalo-bills-fire-general-manager-whaley-1-day-after-draft/ "Without going into detail, Pegula said he is close to hiring a general manager." The Bills announced Beane had been interviewed the first time (without saying what day) on May 4th. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/05/04/bills-announce-theyve-interviewed-front-office-candidate-brandon-beane/ He was officially hired on the 9th after a second interview. But Pegula knew he was close on April 30th. I have a hard time believing there was no contact between Beane and the Bills/McDermott before the draft. Especially as McDermott was handed power over Whaley before the draft, and somewhere between January to April 2017 a decision was made to overhaul the FO. Even after Pegula seemed to still support Whaley in 2016. We'll never know what if any role Beane had in that 2017 draft, but I doubt he didn't at least advise McDermott in some capacity unofficially.

It should have been a different play. We badly blew it on a fourth down earlier, we don't do many QB sneaks and so I felt we should have done something different. Fake the sneak just like they ran it, Josh peel out of there and pass to former TE Spencer Brown who reported as eligible. We're not good at the sneak. Wrong game to try and get better at it.

Congratulations. This article is an argument for mandated vaccination of your entire population. Did you mean it that way or are you just ignorant? Polio mutates faster than HIV or Covid, yet the vaccine is far more durable. Why is that? Keep in mind Sinopharm and Sinovac mimic the polio vaccine approach yet are much less successful than the mRNA vaccines.

I think our boys remember last year all too well and take care of things this year. TN really out-physicalled us that game but we later rose to the occasion when the Niners wanted to do the same. Especially with the D-line improvement this year.

Because he's become a distraction and cast a negative light on the franchise. I respect his right to choose but not his childish, classless way of publicly dealing with it. Further expounded by getting on Bills fans for booing him. Like we should just look at him as a football player after he's gone out of his way to distract from that.

Do you remember how far the runner/ball got on that play? If it didn't go past the spot of holding, they should change the rule to deduct from the spot of the ball in this situation.

Bruh, how long would it take the government to mobilize all the proper equipment and personnel, identify suitable space and parking/transportation logistics, get everything down there and get it set up, functional and effective? Why do you think they choose to instead send the hospital ships? Or would it be better just to bounce patients (especially non-covids) to outlying hospitals and work within the greater system? I mean, I would like to think there's a plans for makeshift military hospitals but I don't have much faith it could be executed well in major cities.

Pretending? Feds don't run the hospitals, my hospital is Cuyahoga County facility (Cleveland) that functions mostly independently with President and executive committee overseen by a County Commission. Feds certainly don't run the Cleveland Clinic or anything other than the VAs. Feds can influence through $, but then they would have to financially support increases in capacity. I don't think either side wants that. I know exactly what happened to the Comfort. Do you know why they didn't use it? Because I don't for sure. I feel Cuomo is partly to blame with his ######ed nursing home policy, but there are considerable logistics to transporting patients to hospital ships and perhaps given the nature of the emergency they couldn't put a plan or adequate personnel together fast enough?

Well, your medical historian has an interesting and mostly incorrect argument. They have a good point that natural immunity will have an important role in mitigating this virus. Certainly states/areas with less natural immunity will be interesting to watch in future outbreaks. You have to wonder if low natural immunity influenced the current outbreak in Washington and Oregon. But we would have many more deaths and morbidity if we hadn't taken preventative measures. You can look to Russia, pessimistic philosophy and distrustful of their government, the populace mostly chooses to tough it out. Vaccinations were under 20% for the longest time and have finally climbed over 30%. Check out their graphs: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/russia/#graph-cases-daily https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/russia/#graph-deaths-daily No return to baseline after surges and escalating baselines and surges. Hopefully this data speaks for itself. Go look at how isolation and masking affected the flu last year. Experts think some substrains died out completely. Will we have record numbers this year? We'll see. But Covid will not die out. It is here to stay, it just needs to be better controlled and lower circulating. The more it circulates the more it mutates. Lockdowns allowed medicine and science time to understand/adapt to Covid, masking/distancing helped slow the spread to mostly manageable levels. Now we need to lower its circulation through vaccination, especially in the rest of the world. The interesting thing will be how China adapts, given its most prevalent vaccines are not very good and with no natural populace immunity. We are a global community and I suspect they will have a price to be paid in the future.

Well, our hospitals/hospital capacity isn't controlled at the federal level. I can tell you at my hospital, during Covid surges, they allocate more beds/floors to Covid patients and push off whatever surgical procedures they can to enable the reallocations. Since we mostly aren't a socialized medicine country, temporary beds would be the way to go (like USNS Comfort). Hospitals aren't going to commit to excess capacity long-term as it will incur financial losses after Covid reaches an endemic equilibrium.

Yeah. That's the old definition. The new definition is any racist, prejudiced or discriminatory thoughts, words or actions. I still can't believe the dictionaries haven't updated. I prefer the old definitions, but it's not reality. Everything is rolled into one, whether we like it or not. With big ears and at least calf-high white socks. 100% Polish here also!

While they would NEVER admit it, I think the Chiefs players would have to agree with the closed captioning. 😂

Just to add to your excellent post, living in Cleveland, it seems obvious to me the NFL has a playbook and trains their players to talk about and treat their team's fans as the best in the league. Browns players will say the exact same things about their fans as Bills players, so much of it is scripted. I'm sure Cole taking the booing fans to task really chaffed the Bills front office and was addressed. Personally, I think the lack of touches was a scheme thing as Diggs only had 2 receptions last night.

That's more like it O! What a statement drive. So much better than playing it safe.

Yeah, send her in an N-95 mask, sheesh. Definitely a bunch of political garbage here.

Well, Baker wasn't the one talking about it. No excuses from him. The thing is, it didn't noticeably affect his throwing in the Bears game but he was missing more badly than I've ever seen him last week. And I live in Cleveland, so I see a lot of Browns games.

You have excellent points and I as a scientist highly respect your reasoned approach and thoughtful questions. WRT immunizing kids, I personally am not in favor of it below 12 for various reasons. But for teenagers I am and look at it this way: What is most likely to have more far-reaching long term effects, the Covid virus or the mRNA vaccine? The mRNA vaccine is short lived and mRNA is easily broken down, no DNA is involved. Each mRNA molecule cannot replicate. The opposite is true of Covid, including a lysogenic component where the virus incorporates into cell DNA to go silent and possibly re-emerge later. Ok, vaccine side effects of clots and transient myocarditis. Are these strictly problems from the vaccine structure or would these people have the same or larger issues if it had been a live Covid infection? I have known 3 teenagers with confirmed or most likely covid: My two nephews and my son. My one nephew definitely had it while the other had no symptoms so it was never confirmed but my brother also had it so we suspect all 3 of them had it. So all 3 teenagers had mild/no symptoms while infected. Anyways, 2 out of 3 had bizzare side effects, my nephew had covid fingers (akin to "covid toes") for 2 months or so after recovery. My son had chest tightness and light headedness the week after he returned to football. Was it respiratory or cardiac? He definitely had headaches and brain fog and loss of taste while no problems breathing, just some upper respiratory congestion. Now, 3+ weeks later he seems full healthy but still hasn't fully regained his taste yet. WTF is that all about? I don't know but it's unsettling to me. So many sit here quoting death/cases/hospitalizations but do people take a hard look at the stories of the people who recover and factor that in? What other virus has these bizarre, lasting effects? And some try and pretend Covid is just a routine virus?

My 15 year old will be getting his vaccine in a couple weeks, he'll be far enough out from his natural infection recovery. Biggest reasons? It's a safe vaccine, he'll get an extra degree of protection, and at this point there's no reason Covid can't mutate to afflict the younger more. Mandating an emergency use only vaccine should not be allowed, and it mostly wasn't until after full approval. So a company, struggling to get back on it's feet after the lockdown, shouldn't be allowed to mandate a fully approved vaccine to create the safest workplace possible and minimize the risk of a super spreader event that would hobble their business and increase healthcare costs? That doesn't make good business sense.

I totally agree that it's a real shortcoming that natural immunity can't be easily quantified and used as a substitute. But please understand science is shades of gray and to the best of my knowledge: 1) we can only estimate the number of Americans with natural immunity, 2) there is going to be variability as to the strength of their natural immunity to the point that a certain percentage with "natural immunity" won't give them much protection against a significant exposure, and 3) there are a number of recent studies showing that natural immunity + vaccination offers the strongest protection of all.

I think the intelligent thing to do is to get it, but it's your choice. It's also a matter of public safety, healthcare costs, and stress on the healthcare system. So when your employer forces you to get it to maintain a safer working environment and keep their healthcare costs lower, either get it or find another job. It's your choice, but stop whining about it like a kitty. I've had to get flu vaccinations for years or lose my job. This is no different and will be supported by the courts. I don't like it, tbh, but it's my choice to go along. I prefer my job here. Choices have consequences, freedoms come with responsibilities.

Classic case of tweetardation. From the article: "The Swedish agency said the vaccine from Pfizer is recommended for these age groups instead." Cardiac inflammation, while a very small side effect in these groups, was a little more pronounced with the Moderna vaccine so they made these recommendations.