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Because it's a pass and there are rules to officially completing the pass.

Thanks for posting this as I totally share their opinion after watching Coop these last 2 1/2 seasons. I think almost everyone here will be very happy and maybe a little surprised about what Coop still can do. The guy was always a weapon with Cleveland. Far harder working for YAC than Diggs. I haven't offered much opinion about his ability to still play because he hasn't shown much this season (and so may have lost his edge) but Watson and that entire offense is a dyssynchronous abhorrent mess that goes well beyond stats. No timing and Watson's confidence is completely shot but even before it died he was uncorking random wild passes that totally missed his target. Looking forward to Josh and him getting it going Sunday!

Yep. I don't think he tells them anything and just trusts the system!😂

You can really see how getting rid of the stadium will open up a lot more development possibilities. They've already done a good job with the E 9th st pier area behind the Rock Hall.

I guess for me it is simply for McD getting a better plan to defend the endzone. The refs are always going to allow a scrum down there, Tauron got scrummed but none of the other defenders were closing on the ball. There was no defender tracking the ball from just outside the endzone. IMO Hail Murray was well defensed on both ends except that our defenders were too short. McDermott is in his seventh season with a firmly entrenched defensive system. Hail Marys is a detail that should have been better planned and addressed by now.

Interesting about Belicheck feeling PI heavily favors the offense. Other than the defenseless receiver rule, I don't get it or agree with him. I don't remember the 70's but for many years through at least the 90's the defender couldn't physically interfere with the receiver's ability to catch the ball until it was touched. Face guarding was also illegal unless the defender had eyes on the ball. The 5 yard contact has always been a rule with no allowances for incidental contact until the last 10 ot 15 years? Now they allow hand fighting and minor bumping. The defender is now allowed equal opportunity to catch a thrown ball so long as he doesn't go through the receiver. Face guarding also seems more tolerated. Maybe it's just me but in the past I felt the rules heavily favored the receiver but are now more even.

Funny you mentioned this😄 Just erase the stadium out of their images. https://www.cleveland19.com/2024/10/16/almost-60-million-awarded-city-cleveland-support-north-coast-connector-development/

Definitely an exclusive airport but put there by the feds to alleviate traffic at Hopkins. My understanding is the feds would want tens of millions of dollars back that they invested in that airport. Don't know for sure if the land bridge has been the holdup or shifting the port operations. I do know there was a lot of port operations behind and around the stadium. We'll see. It just seems like it's getting more serious with actual money discussions too.

Yep, I've lived here over 30 years of it and you're right. But, I think it's close to becoming reality. One of the biggest challenges was moving the port of Cleveland docks and operations out of there and that plan seems settled. They've talked about closing Burke but that's a hefty fee to the feds. So now that stadium gets razed and there's an opportunity of space that aligns with their original park-like overpass of the shoreway.

This. Bishop will be a playmaker when he's up to speed. We are all in every year. This guy has to get reps and every opportunity to contribute for the playoffs. What is he doing well in practice? Plug him into the game when you see a favorable situation for him and grow from there. Especially with Bernard back. It will also help veteran safeties understand they should develop their own anticipation and playmaking more if they want to stay on the field. Going all the way back to Nate Peter man, I feel like McDermott fixates on practice performance too much. Another good example is plugging in Terrell Bernard after Edmunds left. Coaches and Beane were all smug because this guy had showed it at practice the year before. He's smart, aggressive, takes great angles and closes quickly. Great at attacking the LOS. A playmaker. The exact opposite of Edmunds. Why the hell didn't they push Bernard's development on the field more the year before? Under-developing your talent when the superbowl window is open is just criminal to me.

? There's no parking right at the stadium, but I disagree it's a difficult walk. Muni lots on the other side of the highway are great and fun tailgate areas. That'll be the biggest change. Earlier this summer the city revealed their plans to revitalize and better utilize the lakefront and it centered on that area behind the stadium for apartments, shopping, parkland. I couldn't see fitting all this in comfortably with the stadium there and definitely wondered if the stadium would be leaving. It honestly will overhaul a blighted area in Brookpark and help revitalize Cleveland's lakefront, so it could be good. Big problem is how it will get paid for and will Haslam screw it up as he's done to the Browns? Can't wait to see where he puts the Flying J.

It's more of what I want him NOT to say. He ties up a good part of his full response comments around "it's not about one guy" and "team is most important". It comes off to me he's imagining and lecturing about a problem that isn't there. I simply feel his need to emphasize this as petty, small minded and inappropriate. If I'm Cooper reading this I'm wondering what I did to p*ss in his corn flakes? Cooper has been a good soldier through a bad situation with the Browns, he is the opposite of Diggs. Him fitting in with the team will not be a problem. So McD should support the receivers in the room, say he's looking forward to have a player like Coop join the room and see how his skills will fit in and more or less keep it at that. I agree with you about Cooper being a good player and also that he's not some massive superstar or only solution to what ails the team. You are the one being ridiculous imagining I'm thinking all those other things you mention.

No, I don't think he should do anything of the sort, stop being stupid. He should express confidence in what we have. But his "I don't know, we'll see when he gets here. It's never about one guy... It's not about one guy" is middle-school level garbage. He could actually welcome the guy and his talents a little more warmly while not harping on a non-existent problem. Cooper will fit in with our culture, I think McD implies otherwise and that's a bad move for a first impression.

This is what might get McDermott fired. Small thinking. Instead of welcoming Cooper he's lecturing about how he's just a small cog in the machine. That's what is first on his mind. Coop's been fine as a cog in Cleveland, nothing to indicate it would be a problem here. Some cogs are bigger than others, McDermott. And that's ok, it's part of every team's dynamics at every age. Players accept that. You need to fit the right cogs, not obsess over having them equal.

Sadly, you're probably right knowing how conservative McDermott is but we would be better served with Coleman's skill set over Samuel. You can't develop fully without snaps.

I understand, and we just don't know if that side of him could re-emerge. All I am saying is Cooper's been a beast for Cleveland the last two seasons, the opposite of soft. This year he's had more drops, but Watson and the offense are a complete sh*t show. Cooper has probably checked put mentally to some degree, but he's kept his mouth shut. I would say to you he's older and wiser than his Dallas days but you could be right. We've got to take that chance though, he doesn't cost a lot and is better than any other receiver on the team right now.

I live in Cleveland and the last 2 seasons Cooper has been a beast and total pro, not a bad word from him. He's getting older though and this year being stuck on that team has affected his attitude. Speaking as a lifelong Bills fan, the reality of the Browns in their reincarnated era is the most depressing thing I've seen in sports. I feel for my son and all the Browns fans. Haslam has an excellent FO and he still continues to blow it with his stubborness about the Watson deal. Coop may be a problem here but I doubt it. I think he picks up previous seasons' form. We'll see, but really a perfect fit for our needs on paper.

You're not wrong with your thought processes if we're thinking beyond this season. But many of us are not. We have Josh, we have to put our best foot forward to contend for SuperBowls every year. Many years we're going to have to swing a deal like this to fill a hole and try and win it all. Great chance Cooper moves on for money after this season but we need him now and will figure out the rest later. Looking to next year, Diggs' dead money will come off, so that will come into play.

Yep, my bad. Thanks for catching it.

Well, let's look at the situation: For us: -seventh season as head coach -Former college safety -Current starting safeties are weak in that they have little diagnosing and anticipating in the passing game -We've been burned in the past by bombs, especially Fitzgerald and Arizona come to mind For them: Coach just fired and defensive coach now head coach Aaron Rodgers, gunslinger Aaron Rodgers, gunslinger and proficient at Hail Marys Lousy season so far for the jets What McD did wrong, ie, I expect a head coach of his caliber and experience to account for it. -99% chance in this particular situation it will be a Hail Mary, covering the sidelines should be at best a temporary look. -We rushed two and had five guys in the endzone to their three. That left four guys out of the play when everyone pretty much knew what it would be. -All 5 players down there were even with or behind the receivers, no one in front of them. You've got to have a defender just out of the endzone spying the throw and able to put himself in front of where it will come down. -Our best diagnoser and anticipator, Cole Bishop was on the sideline. He was being punished for last game's rookie mistakes but he needs to be in there for this one play. -All a bunch of shortie defenders trying to defend, we need some height. Coleman should practice and be pulled in for these situations given he also specializes in catching the ball under pressure. May even help him if he's in the same situation but on offense. I expect more from McD. We're trying to win a superbowl and this guy's still coaching small. Love him and his strengths but if he can't improve in critical situations we need to move on.

Maybe. My view is that you had the Biden (White House) team hiding his decline and you had the rest of the Dem power brokers (Pelosi, Obamas, Clintons) with various levels of awareness but still mostly on the outside. You also had Jill Biden covering and you have Biden's ego, which still regrets stepping down. Last year, team Biden convinced the outside powers to let him stand as the candidate, aided by the fact that he's one of them, in political terms. Somewhere along the spring and summer, the power brokers finally realized this guy is not fit to serve another term. Think about it, every technique the WH used to hide his decline was agreeably taken away for that Trump debate. How does that make sense? It makes sense if you're testing him, and if he passes you push forward, if not, emergency plan B. And in the wake of the failure, the power brokers became very visible in the press until Biden stepped down. WRT hypocrisy, when I was a Republican 15 years ago I used to believe we were more intellectual and capable of integrity then the Dems. Sadly, that has pretty much flipped which is why I'm independent. I don't share your opinion and it's tough to say how fast Trump will progress but he is and will probably accelerate like Biden did.

I've had no problem realizing and discussing Biden's cognitive progressing decline going back years. I am an independent, I believe Democratic leadership set him up with the Trump debate stipulations knowing he would fail so they could push him aside. Too bad Republicans aren't as wise. Trump is absolutely slowing mentally, go watch his ramblings from some of his rallies. You want to criticize Dems then lead by way of example now that the ball's in your court. Your turn to not be hypocrites. Good luck.

This is a really stupid question. He got beat by her once already, speaks in vague euphamisms instead of facts, and is getting old and clearly slipping mentally at times, just like Biden. Wonder if anyone on the right has the integrity to admit that after seeing it so clearly with Biden? Yep, Trump's maybe a year to 18 months behind Biden in this regard. Anyways, the smart thing to do is avoid a debate like the plague, which they are doing. Makes you wonder why Biden's team was so willing to toss him into it? I think your effort would be better served posting Trump's increasing flow of word salad nonsense at his appearances.

Allen probably throws that ball as Hollins makes that inside step move to freeze the safety. In making that move, Hollins has to push off that left foot to get by the safety and that shifts his body momentum on a slight slant to the sideline and that's why Allen put the ball over the outside shoulder. If Allen had another second to see Hollins holding a straight vertical line then I think he puts the throw to the inside. But he didn't. I'm no football expert, only played TE in high school and when I made a move like that it was always outside shoulder ball because the momentum shift made it easier and it's fractions of a second getting around the guy and looking for the ball so you can't be sure if the safety could make a play on an underthrown ball to the inside. Outside shoulder was your cleanest and most convenient window in that moment.

Well, I'd do run, play-action to short/mid pattern, then figure out third down from there, just running it if it's third and long.