John Cocktosten

A lot of great......huh?

When you argue about who sucks less does it even matter?

The Coney Island Hot Dog Eating contest?

Dude, What the hell are you talking about? He's not an effin Wizard! Put down the Pabst and stop watching your "Thundering Herd" videos. He hasn't played in 15 years and he has never coached anything other than his daughters Soccer teams.

I'm not, I was quoting the The Lackawanna Pro Scouts Guide. I also have 20/20 vision.

Dinner was free but it was a cash bar

I am always amazed at how many times I watch him run himself out of plays. He is the King of creating lanes on a counter play. Most of the time the RT doesn't even shove by because he is so far upfield!

Who are these NFL scouts that you are quoting? Is Todd Mcshay always right? And YEAH, they are wrong, they called Kelsay a "solid" pass rusher. Dude has 17 sacks in 7 years! That just over two a year!! If thats "solid" then I'm an "average" pass rusher because he only has 2 more sacks than me a year! Figs, Kelsay is the poster boy for why the Bills suck....and Celino and Barnes.

Kelsay's contract averages 6 million a year. Might point is that Cover 2 DE's are not supposed to be one dementional DE's 2 down players. They are supposed to get into the backfield and cause problems on every play. Watch a Colts, Minny or Chicago game. Their DE's are everywhere. Now someone thinks it's a good idea to bring him out on 3rd downs? That would mean he is so scary good against the run that he's justified in making 6 mil a year playing 25 plays a game? He sucks and players like him are the exact reason why this team is a mess.

Mathis had 12 in Indy at LDE but nice try. Plus it's not just about sacks, he never puts pressure on the QB either. You act like he is a vacuum against the run. Dude, this is pointless because you are obviously related to him or you are Celino or Barnes!

When Figgy watches the games, he pays close attention to defensive third down %.

Rotating players and nickel/dime packages are completely different. Kelsey gets paid at the top of his position and you think it's okay if he is a two down player? What happenes if they throw on 2nd? Maybe he can just play on 1st down. Ridiculous.

"Kelsay is a solid pass rusher but has never been a big producer in this area." I'm glad you get your knowledge from Billy Bob's Scouting Service. They lost all credibility when they said the he is a "solid pass rusher"? He has 17 career sacks in 7 years! Then Billy Bob contradicts himself in the same breath by saying, "But he's never been a big producer in that area"?????? I don't know what to make of that statement. Here's a statement that makes sense, Kelsey is a terrible pass rusher totalling 10 sack in the last 3 years. Go back and watch the games bro. He's playing "Dancing with the Stars" with every RT he comes into contact with!

There is no such thing as a DE in a Cover 2 defense who comes out on 3rd downs. Know what you are talking about before you open your a##hole!

Well if you know anything about schemes then you would know that a slow DE with horrible agility, no pass rush moves and the complete inability to counter the initial puch of a Tackle does not fit in this defense. you suck at your habit, try smoking. Please tell me why he is good?

Our sh#tty defensive philosophy is dropping 7 into zones and it is crucial that the front 4 gets pressure. Kelsey is part of the front 4. He gets no pressure. He has 4.5 in his last 2 seasons. He sucks. Now pass your bong.

I think we have a 2009 Buffalo Bills slogan: THE BUFFALO BILLS: OUR PLAYERS AREN'T BAD! what a joke

how the eff does kelsey make this team? there is a reason why we suck.

The Pats just announced their cuts! A defensive guy, two players who block and guy who kicks.

Eric?

I'm sure Kelly is fine doing exactly what he is doing. He is the face/spokeman for the Bills, a diplomat who is respected throughout the league and even in the national media. That is all he wants. If he wanted to come back and coach he would've done so already. They brought back Gibbs to do what he did before, coach. He never played fotball. How long did Marino last? 3 weeks! He probably didn't know he had to work. Teams don't do it because these guys played, they never coached and there is a huge difference. Why do you think no one else adopted the "No Huddle/ K-Gun"? It was certainly very successful right? Because it's an archaic offense! It's the same reason why teams don't strickly run the spread or the single wing. You can't win with ONE Offensive philosiphy. Kelly last game was almost 15 years ago, I doubt he's been breaking down tape! Whenever you see him at games his face is as red as Belichick's ass! I don't think he's charting defenses, he's playing the "3 and out" drinking game" up in his luxury box! COME ON PEOPLE!!!!

Never said 20 hour days. 8-8/9 is the norm, not only for the NFL but for college as well. Then there are two a days which are pretty much 24 hours straight for a month. Do you really think the position coaches say, "Alright OC, I think Trent left so I don't think there is anything else that I can do!" That could not be further from the truth. Who do you think is watching film looking for tendancies? Coverages? Blitz packages? Fronts? This stuff is all gathered by the position coaches and filtered down to the OC/DC's and Head coach and that is exactly how it goes.

this is an oxymoron

If you think Kelly running around on the sidelines equates to a full time coaching job then you have no clue what it means to be a coach in the NFL OR college. The hours that these guys put in is ridiculous. 12-15 hour days BEFORE travel! My position coach in college would have meetings with dinner at his house so he could see his family, which is common. There are no days off and there is no way Kelly is going to do that. As far as the Marv thing goes, LET THE 90'S GO! Trying to bring back players and systems from the past will do us no good. Again, no one else in the league does this. We need to bring a guy who has called a play or run an organization in the last 10 years! This 90's crap is a marketing tool for suckers. Bills miopia!

Good, then bring him in as a motivator. The reason why great players don't go onto coaching is because they will have to work to hard for a lot less money. These guys have great lives and tons of money. I'm sorry but I don't see Jimbo sleepin at the stadium 5 nights a week. Plus, we did the whole "Bring back the 90's" thing and it failed miserably when we tapped Marv to set this franchise back another 5 years. Look around the league, no one else does this crap.