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O-line was pathetic. We got lucky we won because we lost at the point of attack on both lines. If our safeties and secondary wasn't so good we would be thrashed.

I disagree. If the gov't were to lower income taxes and corporate taxes by 80% and deregulate a bunch of stuff to make it appealing to manufacturing you would see a boon in the economy short-term and long-term. The facts are we lost manufacturing because of law changes in regulation, taxation, and not being manufacturing friendly with our laws that can be directly related to the gov't. People go to China for a reason and the #1 reason is not taxes, it's regulation.

Taxing existing without any other pretense is an assault on liberty. But honestly these people don't care about the constitution or the public so why should this upset anyone?

I'll take Pike over McCoy. Pike has better long-term potential to me.

It's something which is true, but it's a bit disrespectful so I've avoided it.

Alpha and Pdaddy, He was averaging around 220 yards, a rating over 92, for his first 6 games and he made some plays down the field. To say certain teams are bad that he played forgets that every QB plays crappy teams as well. If that's not good to you what would you consider most of Jim Kelly's career: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/K/KellJi00.htm No, I'm not comparing him to Kelly as they are different QBs, but if you want more production just sign Peyton Manning, as he is readily available. My point is he was playing decent and even the talking heads mentioned him in the MVP breath. If you don't want to acknowledge facts that's fine, but don't pretend they don't exist. He has regressed and it's horrible to the team, and he played like an NFL QB last year, and this year he's playing like he belongs to the UFL.

Wrong, he asked to be cut when they wanted to start Russell over him and got his wish. Russell didn't win his spot. I will give you this though, the guy is always hurt if he plays over 4 games.

Fitz and Edwards are about the same age, so that shouldn't go in the comparison. Otherwise good post. I just can't blame the "young" thing anymore.

He's not focused on the game and constantly going through the motions like a 6 year old forced to play. Watch Fitz's last throw to him when he wasn't even looking. The last throw wasn't a drop as much as T.O wasn't ready to look at the QB. One drop a game is a lot and maybe one drop every 2 games is ok if you are making plays. This guy is dropped 2 passes to him a game which is killing drives.

Reed's been our best guy to rely on to catch the ball and get open underneath. You want to replace with Roscoe at WR? Seriously, you are insane. Reed has been the biggest shining light in the receiving core this year and we want to throw him out. The only reason we don't use him more is to make the $12 mil we have in Evans and T.O happy. He could consistently produce 5 catches a game for 45-60 yards in this offense. He's finally matured and I wish it was 5 years ago. Oh well.

Maybe with Fitz giving him more balls he might step up, but after watching him drop so many passes this year he's probably in the top 3 for reasons we don't convert 3rd downs. I saw that Fitz lost confidence in him after the 2nd drop and the other time he wasn't even looking for the ball. Listen, I think he's a world-beater and a team-beater when he is drop mode. This team relies too much on small chunks rather than chunking the field for 20-25 yard gains that make a big difference that T.O can provide. Every pass is critical when you need to convert 3rd to play Dick ball. I really wish we traded him to the Bears for a pick and we played Steve Johnson who is a perfect fit for the dink offense we play. Also, this season is a wash so watching him or Hardy develop is a big need for next season, moreso that making T.O happy.

Giving Fitz 2 games before I say he "sucks" because of the stat lines of one game with no tempo or rhythm with the WRs. To say otherwise is homerism for Trent. I want to see what he can do for the team.

Ayers has not looked that good at all. Orakpo has been playing well for a rookie. I saw Orakpo play in college and wasn't that impressed... he was more of a high-motor work-out warrior, but he's also athletic and coachable enough to succeed.

When people like Pdaddy and others say Edwards didn't regress you haven't been watching the first 6 games of the year in 2008. He was averaging around 240 yards, a rating over 92, and he made some plays down the field, sometimes at key points (Jax game, Raiders game) when we were behind. He was playing good enough that people in the league looked at him as a potential MVP candidate as crazy as that sounds right now. If that's not regression and he showed nothing this conversation would be over. My biggest disappointment has been the destruction of a young QB in Edwards, the regression of ST, and how Dick is still the coach.

All we need is the #1 D in the league and 2 fast explosive receivers, and one who is probably the top 3 in physical domination in the league. That's all we need as well and we could be undefeated!!! Oh, and a coach that inspires his player to have high energy.

Me too but the Lions overpaid for him.

I was going to write something, but all I can say now is "what he said"... good post... I want to give Fitz a week or 2, sounds crazy since we give other QBs YEARS, and I want to see how we react to the Panthers running game. Our LBs suck right now. The match-up on paper is close.

Racism is linked to power in any way. That was a spin put on by Jesse Jackson to defer reality. White men have the least amount of protected rights by the gov't and so now does that mean only minorities and females are racist and sexist? Racism is an overt prejudice against a race without basis for discrimination. I'm not a racist for refusing to vacation in Harlem because there is a basis for my act, and I would be the one without power in that situation. Of course they would be happy to see me and any acts they would do, even when they are the majority with power, wouldn't be racist. You are a moron. I'm sorry, but the day is coming and now here where to be called a racist is almost a good thing. Notice I said ALMOST because it means you are willing to say things without political correctness according to reality, which is now a racist act, unless you are not white and then everything is on the table. TYPICAL FAKE RACIST CRAP -Whites do better than blacks and hispanics on tests... typical answer for this "racism" is that whites make the tests (racist tests) So why do Asians do better than whites? -Blacks have a higher percentage of professional basketball players, which is not racist based on fact, but say whites have a higher percentage of people paying their bills and it becomes racist all of a sudden. Facts are racism is a label used to demonize people. If someone calls me a racist I don't even care anymore. Keep calling people racists idiots, you are doing exactly what I hoped would happen, namely, that the label is going to be worthless and long-term will hurt you when a real racist should be stopped.

I'll take Pike over all those guys, bad forearm and all. Plays in the cold, big arm, athletic, no WRs and makes plays. Pike will be available in the 2nd and 3rd. He's a lot like Flacco or Schaub but more athletic and more raw than Flacco, but just as high of an upside.

He would be better than Palmer or the other guys we have.

I agree with everything you said. A booble is loss of control. I don't see loss of control that is incontrovertible. Next, did the ball really hit Josh Reed? I couldn't hear the game.

And what was your excuse last year or the year before?

Well let's take what he accomplished and put it in perspective. We had 3 points and it was the 2nd quarter. So he would have about 130-160 yards and 10-13 points. That's if he was 20/20 of course. Trent's no longer a NFL QB. He could be again, maybe on this team with a new coach, or another team with a fresh start. Yes, Fitz played better with worse stat lines. You can't see a stat line, you have to watch the game.

One more question... Why isn't Ellis seeing the field when Maybin is clearly not contributing? Are jersey sales really that important?

Obviously you did not watch us play the Fins, or the Fins game against the Jets where Henne played strongly. The problem isn't the physical attributes, it's the mental. Edwards has regressed so far mentally on this team he isn't as good as Delhomme or Stafford from your list (Stafford played on a bum knee this week and was noticeably limping before and after the game). Now with the concussion his head might not be in the game at all. Did you notice Trent had pocket awareness at one time and not getting sacked? He's a sack machine. Lastly, you cannot go by career numbers of anyone except if they are overwhelmingly positive. QBs can and do evolve for better or worse more so than any position. Guys like Warner, Delhomme, Gannon, Garcia, et al. looked much worse in their beginnings than when they matured. Am I saying Fitz is the answer? That would be lunacy, but to assume that he can't play better because of past numbers is not a mature explanation. It would be like comparing Delhomme's career numbers to the interception machine he is this year. Trent needs a new coach and a new team. Jauron isn't doing him any favors. He's definitely a talented guy, but he's bell has been rung twice now (very bad precursor) and he isn't playing an NFL game as a QB. Let me ask you this, when was the last time you've seen Trent throw the ball 10-15 yards on a pattern over the guys shoulder than isn't a bomb? NFL QBs do it all the time, you know, the pass where only the WR can catch where they get slightly ahead of the DB. Trent either throws it on a rope or a bomb. He's lacking the entire game, and I believe it's mental and this isn't the team for him to grow into it unless we dump the Dick today.