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To tell the truth, haven't watched ESPN for anything in years. The last time I saw boomer was when he introduced Ralph at the HOF. But I can't help thinking that it would be a total and complete humiliation if the NFL's own TV channel found itself to be out-researched or out-analyzed by any other channel.

I've had it for about 10 years now -- the local Bills bar is too full of drunks (sorry but being s**t-faced by 1 p.m. ain't cool anymore. I'll probably follow the Bills to the grave, theirs or mine. I did drop the MLB package this summer. My team, the Pirates, have gone 17 years without a winning record. Enough's enough and I think the Bills will rebound before they hit the 17-year mark

I'm not familiar with Levi Brown, so I watched some Youtube videos -- and his passes didn't seem to have a tight spiral. Not trying to judge the kid, but I seem to recall Jim Kelly once saying that the key to surviving as a passer in the Ralph is to be able to throw a tight spiral. Were these videos an aberration? Thoughts, anyone? By the way, this thread is hilarious -- best I've seen in ages.

It's Kool-Aid, dipsheet.

He's a Bills fan because Ralph is the only owner older than he is.

Some might say that about the Bills, too. I just have the impression that players who kick butt at Nebraska tend to be mediocre to average NFL players. Don't have stats to prove it though

Pardon my ignorance, but do Cornhuskers usually pan out in the NFL

What's this fetish about McNabb? If he was still such a freaking great QB, the Eagles wouldn't have let him go, let alone trade him to another NFC East team.

Actually, Dan Snyder, the short, meddling owner of the NFL franchise with the racist nickname, spent the last 10 years treating his team like some sort of fantasy league team. He threw money at "big" names (think an over-the-hill Bruce Smith) and got nothing for his efforts. Actually, he got 10 years of sellouts, but that's another story, because the DC marketplace has a much wealthier fan base. But Snyder finally realized that throwing money at every free agent who comes into town is no way to build a winning team. He hired a legitimate GM and a well-known coach. We'll see what happens in the next year or two. But the point is, throwing money at free agents usully doesn't work, unless you are looking to fill specific holes or gaps in your lineup.

Dan Snyder, the short meddling owner of the NFL franchise with the racist nickname, has been VERY quiet so far. Maybe he's learned his lesson.

Amen

Actually, it could pass as pittsburgh if it had 4349 well-paying jobs.

Couldn't agree more

Steve Spurrier was head coach of the Washington NFL team with the racist nickname in 2002-03. He was a total bust in DC (although he made a ton of money from Danny Snyder a/k/a the short meddling owner), but what do you all make of this connection -- is there something there, is it just coincidence, or a red herring. I honestly don't know anything about whether Spurrier ever gave defenses a second thought. Tho I seem to recall him being a totally hands off HC in DC.

Hmm --maybe chicken little was right. The sky is falling!

Frankly, I don't care who wins, as long as it's not the Saints or Jets.

and your point is?

You want an announcer? Hire Alex Trebek. By the way, a bumbling fool is not a that, a bumbling fool is a who. People are who, things are that. Just a little grammar lesson in case you don't want to sound like a bumbling fool. Or, maybe, an illiterate.

I think that someone who turns a $25K investment into a "$900 million" entity is probably not a moron. True, tax dollars were used to build the stadium decades ago (I remember that it was decades ago because I went to the first game ever -- against the Washington NFL franchise with the racist name). However, the local governments put money into the stadium because they thought they could get something in return -- sales tax revenue, whatever. If the local and state governments don't get enough in return, it's not Ralph's fault, but the governments' fault. Maybe the state and county should have said, sure, we'll give you money, but we want a guarantee that the Bills will stay in WNY in perpetuity. In that case, there probably would never have been a stadium in Orchard Park and the Blls would have been history long ago. Likewise, people who buy tickets are entering into a business arrangement, not some kind of lifetime annuity. I give you money, you provide something in return, whether it's wings, pizza, beer or a football game. Once the game is over, the contract is over. Same holds true for season ticket holders. Once the season is over, so is the contract. You provided money, the team provided a product -- good, bad or indifferent (i don't recall any of the tickets I bought gauranteeing anything other than a place to park my fanny.) The argument that somehow Ralph Wilson owes Buffalo something rings hollow. He's actually tried to make a go if it in a market that can't compete with the high-profile markets . WNY doesn't hold any attraction for someone who wants to be an NFL owner. It has no economy and no economic growth that I can see. There's no big corporate base to buy up luxury suites (which is where the owners make a real killing, ask Jerry JonTes.) Taxes are oppressive. The city, county and state have been losing population for decades. The state government is a joke that borders on the immoral and criminal. And the situation shows no signs of turning around. So as much as it pains me to even think such thoughts, enjoy the Bills while you can, because unless Jim Kelly has a billion dollars hidden up his butt, they are history once Ralph dies.

That's the sad truth. the Bills were a business decision, not a civic endeavor. As a businessman, his goal is to get the greatest return on his investment. The whole issue wouldn't be such a concern if the Buffalo area had a multi-billionnaire who was a great football fan. How about the Sabres owner, or maybe the Rich Products family. They've got the cash. Or maybe the family that owns Delaware North (the Jacobs brothers?). Outside of those two names, I don't see anyone in WNY with pockets deep enough to invest in a football team that is in a small market with little likelyhood of turning it's situation around. It pains me to think about it, but when Ralph goes, the Bills are probably gone as well.

Quite simply, too many people don't like the Chan Gailey because he is not a marquis name. He's not Marty Schottenheimer, he's not Bill Cohwer, he's not Knute Rockne, he's not this season's hot coordinator. In other words, he's not the "easy" choice. A few years ago, the Washington NFL team with the racist name hired Joe Gibbs for a second go-round. That was a great marketing move. Everyone in DC envisioned a return to the glory days. Unfortunately, it was a terrible decision for the team and for Joe Gibbs, who only tarnished his reputation. In a way it reminds me of what corporate IT people called the "IBM" syndrome back in the 1980s. Corporate types would pick IBM for their computer needs and if it turned out badly, they'd say "But it was IBM, how could we know they couldn't do the job?" As for me, I'll wait and see. Gailey seems to be a decent offensive mind. If he and Buddy pick a good defensive coordinator and staff, pick some good talent in the draft and free agency, then we could have a good team again. If that happens I'll be happy. If if doesn't -- as Scarlett O'Hara says in Gone with the Wind, "tomorrow will be another day."

Everything on these boards has ben discussed to death. But thanks for the reminder. I'll keep searching for "something new"

Given, the ineptitude of the Bills organization, that's hard to comprehend, although I'm in total agreement