High Mark

Honestly I agree. The Bills have Stevie, Bell, and Urbik and FAs this year, and Byrd and Levitre coming up next year. We also have to sign a couple other teams studs in FA this year. Couple that with Freddie being 31, having another year left on his contract, and Spiller catching on, I just dont see the ened to get him sign right now. Once Stevie, Urbik, Byrd, and Levitre are locked up (I'd let Dbell walk if he wants a big contract - too injury prone) and we can land a V jackson or M Williams type, then sign Freddie to a smaller, short term extension in the middle or end of next season. Out of all the guys I listed Stevie is the least important one to resign if you ask me.

Honestly, he was increbile last year. He wont wow on passing downs and was off the field for them, but as a 2 down player he was great. Not sure what you missed, maybe you dont know what to look for? Not trying to be mean, just sayin Shep was diesel out there since his first snap. I was extremely impressed by him.

OK so honestly - why isnt this guy on the Giants roster or coaching staff yet? I absolutely woulda hired him in some fashion by now...

Trade them all for Luck?

The Bucaneers want out of Tampa, bad. Either to LA (where half the heirs to the team live already) and they are also first in line to move a team to London if it ever happens, it won't, but they have already expressed interest. Jax I have heard speculation that they would gladly go to LA (and prob should). Florida has too many teams already, and none of them do well. 3 NFL teams, plus college ball is king down there. People near Jacksonville are Gator fans, not Jags fans, Canes fans over Dolphish fans, etc. Plus there is Florida St, Central Flordia, hell I went to a South Florida game vs UConn last year on a Saturday and then the Bucs/Falcons game Sunday and there was maybe 15-20% more fans at the Bucs game.... they can barely compete with South Florida!?!?! More teams is a bad idea, there aren't enough fans to go around already.

They found a good rookie this year, but still - does ti matter? The Ravens have been a steller team for 10 years. WR is a horribly over rated position. Besides, he was able to trade a 2nd round pick for one of the best WRs in the league in Bolden.

A top 5 QB is worth 10+ wins. See: Colts 2002-2012 All all this 'is it Brady vs. Is is Bellicheat'.......Its their OL..... Brady sucks without it. I credit Bellicheat for maintaining the OL, and it was their Ds and kicker that won them all the superbowls...not Brady by any stretch. He was a Trent Dilfer on that first winning team.

Bradys is the most over rated pompus b**** in the history of sports. If it weren't for his OL he would have been run out of the league like Trent Edwards. I can't wait until he get caughts with kiddie porn ~5 years after retiring. You know its coming.....

I personally would like to see us go after a TE. Martellus Bennett/Shockey//John CarlOlsonson etc. I know Chan 'doesnt like to use them' but thats just really stupid on his part. I would also think we have a better shot at signing a Kiwinuka as a DE than M Willaims, but obvoiusly I would want Williams first and foremost. Resigning Stevie and Urbik are gimmes that must happen. Adding a DE and TE in free agency then a good draft pick or two and we can compete. We will eventually have to replace Turnover Fitzpatric though eventually, and I think a guy like Quinn who never really got a chance could play if he had to.

Man you guys are all over this. NewEra had it right, I really don't come to this site that often anymore. Ozy, PM me your address and I'll mail you a check. Or I can Paypal you if you have an acct, I'd only need your email the Paypal is tied to. Or I'll take you up on doing it next too if you want to level out the odds - 10:1 was a bit steep lol. And FYI, I'll be out of the country all this weekend/next week - so I wont be back until after then. So calm down folks.

thats what happens when you get a long lay off. It wasnt all Rodgers fault at all but that was the worst one of his games I saw this season. Belicheat figured it out years ago - you are better playing your guys than resting them.

I would draft them both. TE is the second most important position on offense if you ask me.

I want Kiwinuka and Williams and then go after Jackson too. Dont tell me they wont come here, sell them on turning this team around and how important they are to that. Everyone has a price and we should pay it. If we are going to suck I would rather suck like the Redskins. And get this, we might actually be good.

looks sick in that highlight. I also like Fuller from A&M

I dont think Quinn even has 16 starts under his belt. He didnt look that bad when he did play, and that was for a bad bad bad browns team. With a fw years in the league he could be a good starter.

I dont know ahout you guys but Im glad we took troup over Gronkowski.

Most college teams make their guys wear them. I think its a good idea for the NFL too. They arent too restrictive and there is >1% chance Wood tears his ACL wearing one.

Who have been primarily backup QBs throughout their careers.... I would also replace lock down corner with a top tier TE, and argue that a top LT is not as important as the inerior 3 of the OL. The teams in the playoffs are my evidence.

They all have to be studs and young Rogers (a little too old but still 10 yrs left. I would consider Newton or Stafford too) Megatron Gronkowski Piere-Paul Aldon Smith, or maybe Suh Or 5 Tebows

This time it wouldnt be wasting a draft pick, and the players we let go in your scenarios were actually GOOD.

how do you know the Bills are interested in these guys Damon?

Im still way more pissed about Gronkowski. He is a HOFer and Troup will be cut soon.

I just posted this in the other thread. Mario Williams and Mathis kiwinuka. Make it happen.

M Williams and M Kiwinuka. Make it happen.

Where does Hightower go? I want him too.