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A little quick on the trigger there… he didn't even declare if he was about to rock n roll…

Doug Flutie?

Possible positives for today: Cards have a pathetic offense and poor quarterbacking as well as a bad offensive line. Bills have "bonded" over the last two weeks in Arizona. Fitz lives in the Phoenix area and this is a homecoming for a player who desperately needs to repair his own psyche and that of the team. There will be an estimated 5000 Bills fans in the stadium… roughly one out of every 13 attendees. Trap game… the Cards host the Niners next week. Blue pants. Extreme desperation. Possible Negatives: The Bills O-line is in an injury-riddled shambles and the Cards front 7 is outstanding. Conclusion: See? Once again I've talked myself into believing that the Bills will win today.

Actually you're incorrect. FWIW, Flutie is arguably the greatest quarterback in CFL history (Wiki): "Flutie played in Canadian Football League for 8 years. He is revered as one of the greatest quarterbacks ever to play Canadian football. In 1990 he signed with the BC Lions for a two-year contract reportedly worth $350,000 a season. At the time he was the highest paid player in the CFL. Flutie struggled in his first season, which would be his only losing season in the CFL. Over the next seven years he would go 99-27 as a starter. In his second season, he threw for a record 6,619 yards on 466 completions. Flutie was rewarded with a reported million-dollar salary with the Calgary Stampeders. Flutie won his first Grey Cup in 1992 with the Stampeders. He was named the Grey Cup MVP. During his last years in Calgary, Flutie's backup was Jeff Garcia, who later went on to start for the NFL's San Francisco 49ers. Flutie won two more Grey Cups with the Toronto Argonauts, in 1996 (The Snow Bowl) and 1997, before signing with the Buffalo Bills of the National Football League in 1998. Prior to his final two Grey Cup victories with the Argonauts, Flutie was hampered by the opinion, supported by the media, that he was a quarterback who could not win in cold weather. In both 1993 and 1994, the Stampeders had the best record in the league, but lost the Western Final each year at home in freezing conditions. After first refusing to wear gloves in freezing temperatures, in later years Flutie adapted to throwing with gloves in cold weather. His career CFL statistics include 41,355 passing yards and 270 touchdowns. Flutie holds the professional football record of 6,619 yards passing in a single season. He still holds four of the CFL's top five highest single-season completion marks, including a record 466 in 1991. His 48 touchdown passes in 1994 remains a CFL record. He earned three Grey Cup MVP awards, and was named the CFL's Most Outstanding Player a record six times (1991–1994, and 1996–1997). On November 17, 2006, Flutie was named the greatest Canadian Football League player of all time from a top 50 list of CFL players conducted by TSN. In 2007 he was named to Canada's Sports Hall of Fame, the first non-Canadian to be inducted." So Flutie actually did a ton "before playing in Buffalo." In fact his whole prime occurred BEFORE he joined the Bills and he was actually a player in decline by the time he rescued the Bills franchise. Like Hall of Famer Warren Moon and Pro Bowler Jeff Garcia, Flutie had a great CFL career. Rob Johnson on the other hand… founded a Quarterback Academy with his father… You take Bledsoe and I'll take Flutie. We'll see who wins more games. Yes, Rob Johnson was a joke.

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You didn't comply with the strict haiku structure of 5-7-5 syllables.

There were a LOT of people here who thought that Von Miller would be another Aaron Maybin. As far as Dareus, I would like to see the actual posts from those people expressing their reservations about drafting him. I really don't remember any posts advising not drafting him and in fact I thought that his selection was unanimously lauded around here.

Peter, it seems like there's a few things we can agree on and a few things we can't. That's fine. For the record, I've never blamed Rob Johnson for the Titans loss. I also think that it's not possible to say what would have happened had Flutie started. I give Flutie enormous credit for his role in keeping the Bills in Buffalo and that overrides a helluva lot. Unlike you I believe that Flutie had zero to do with Rob Johnson's lack of success and I feel like Johnson wasn't good enough to be an NFL quarterback… some combination of not being able to mentally process things quickly enough and unlike you, I don't believe that he was tough enough, mentally or physically. We're talking about competition, may the best man win. Steve Young didn't mope about being treated poorly by Joe Montana and Aaron Rodgers' career wasn't derailed by Brett Favre treating him like crap. As for Flutie's won/lost record, you can dismiss it if you'd like but you have to know that his ability to consistently win in Buffalo (as opposed to Johnson's inability) was due to Flutie being able to avoid negative plays. In 1998 for instance Flutie threw the ball 354 times but was only sacked 12 times while Johnson threw the ball 107 times and was sacked 29 times!!! You point out that Johnson had the crap kicked out of him while he was a Bill and the reason for that is that he either was really bad at playing quarterback or that his offensive linemen didn't really care to block for him… take your pick. Rob Johnson has the highest sack percentage of any quarterback who ever played in the NFL. So to blame Flutie for being sacked by Armstrong is a little absurd to say the least. That's about all I've got. I'll go with the guy who helped save the franchise over the guy who sucked… regardless of style points.

A nice write-up about this weekend's festivities in and around Phoenix. http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-1/Bills-fans-flock-to-Arizona-for-party-weekend/a4a73dfe-aab4-42ac-a955-cc6fed6008e0

I think he meant Cary Elwes who had the role of Robin Hood… the outlaw who stole from the rich and gave to the poor.

No kidding. Talk about a winning organization!

So do you ABBA fans. Info for the stadium tour: Thank you for joining us on the #BillsMafia tour of University of Phoenix Stadium! Below is all the information for the tour including meet up time and location, parking, and tour details. - Date: Saturday, October 13, 2012 - Time: 10:00am. Tour will begin promptly at 10:00am, so we ask all persons to arrive by 9:45am. Any persons arriving after the tour has commenced may be prohibited from joining the tourand will not be issued a refund. We will be meeting by the Gate 2 entrance near the AZone Team Store (Look for the large "2" outside of the stadium on the North side). - Parking: Free parking for the tour will be available in the North lot directly across from the AZone Team Store, unless directed to an alternate location. - Tour Details: The tour will be approximately 75 minutes in length and will cover approximately 1 mile of walking and is tentatively scheduled to cover the history of the stadium, the Cardinals, and views from the press box, lofts, and locker room. Please bring your confirmation code with you for check-in of the tour and let me know if you have any further questions. Reply

Good stuff yet again. I noticed that you guys play some funny games with the bylines. Also I see where you regularly do a pizza and wings report. This is reminiscent of the stuff Dave Staba used to write. Is he somehow involved in this thing?

Geno Smith ranked 13th?

It's To Shea. The old Buffalo restaurant chain? My Dad used to take me there for breakfast… early childhood memories. Thanks Medicine Person. Are you sure you won't stay and join us for coffee and donuts?

The people who came up with GLOW (Gorgeous Ladies of Wrestling)? Demeaning to whom?

I understand that the Glendale High School Marching Band will be playing a medley of ABBA's greatest hits. I think it's called the Mama Mia Medley.

The Bills Backers in the Valley of the Sun have done an UNBELIEVABLE JOB of organizing this weekend, start to finish. There will be a Fish Fry Dinner tonight at Taps (when you leave Buffalo you realize how hard it is to get a good Friday night fish fry), a "Pub Crawl" tonight (http://billsvscardinals.com/link-buffalo-pub-crawl.html) followed by a tour of The University of Phoenix Stadium tomorrow morning (sold out) a Bills Backers Golf Tournament (Sold Out), a Saturday Night Big Bills Bash featuring Andre Reed, Mark Maddox, and JD Hill, and then finally tailgating before and after the game. The Backers also organized a Bills Backers hotel and are still currently working on trying to get a shuttle going from the hotel to "Taps" which is where the Fish Fry and the Saturday night party takes place. Here's the best place for information: http://www.billsvscardinals.com/ And other related links: http://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/146176-buffalo-at-arizona/ https://www.facebook.com/BillsMafiaArizonaTakeover?fref=ts We're visiting friends so won't be attending most of these events but I just wanted to give props and thanks to all our Buffalo expats who've worked so hard to make this weekend a wonderful weekend getaway vacation for their fellow Bills fans. Great job you guys. God Bless and Go Bills! If you're planning on attending the tailgate, this is VERY IMPORTANT INFORMATION as it is the very issue which caused problems last Sunday at Candlestick: 1) Parking lot Here's a tailgate area that is located at the South East corner of the University of Phoenix Stadium in parking lot "F". You'll need parking passes to get in this lot with your car or truck but can park else where and walk on over, one place to go get the "F" lot passes is the Phoenix Craigslist. Look up Tickets, then Bills vs Cards and there will be options choose from. All Grass to park and party. It's as close as the party was in San Diego. We will have a few grills set up if you need to cook. We are also planning on having Sahlen's from Ted's on the grill....... If you want to find us call John McCartney at 623-229-8142.... We will have one of the highest flags up. PLEASE BRING YOUR OWN FOOD AND BEVERAGES. THERE WILL ALSO BE A RAFFLE AND OTHER THINGS TO DO BUT THE GROUP DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH FOOD AND BEER FOR EVERYONE SO YOU'LL NEED TO BRING YOUR OWN. GRILLS WILL BE PROVIDED.

FWIW, here's his Wiki entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Kush

Odd that they didn't seem to make any attempt to get a comment from Kush himself.

That's weirding me out.

Not that there's anything wrong with that…

Hey Peter. Way to not address numerous points made by others. I guess we're just talking past each other now so I guess I'll do the same. Here's all you need to know: Doug Flutie's NFL record as a starter: 38-28 Rob Johnson's NFL record as a starter: 12-17 And Flutie played his prime (8 seasons) in Canada. But as you've shown, you don't like Canada. Logically you're wrong because no one can say how Flutie would have done had he been given the chance to play.

You just did. I'm gonna nominate BillsVet for Chris Brown's job. He might not last very long in that position though.

Strangely even though the stadium was built only 40 years ago, none of those people still survive! (dramatic music)