8-8 Forever?

8 & 8 , of course. Forever. Just good enough to avoid the college greats. Just bad enough to not accomplish anything. 8 & 8... Forever.

Thad I am sure. No EJ until after the bye. This season is over. They would have to go 7-0 to have a shot. With the EJ/TL/Tuel show they might go 4-3 or more likely 3-4 , so 7-9 for theseason. Bills must hold the NFL recond for most 7 and 9 seasons ]

470 yards of offense by Hackett against KC defense. Case closed. I like him. You are nitpicking. Rookie QB mistake on the pick 6 and great strip of TJ cost them the game.. simple as that. those two things don't happen we win, Bills have 500+ on offense and Hackett is suddenly HC material in the media. It was a "turnover game" just let it go and hope EJ is back soon so we can get some decent QB play.

470 yards on offense against the #1 defense in the league tells me Hackett is doing just fine. Next question.

They are just too beat up to come out on top against top 10 teams. Gilmore, Spiller, Byrd, EJ, Thad, Kolb ,... beat up at key positions. Still put 470 yards on supposedly such an awesome defense. They are coming along. Lets see how many FAs they lose and we'll know what we have for next year. This season just became preseason for next year.. (which it kind of was from the start anyway). Losing EJ just plain killed it. We'll have to see how they react going forward. Could start mailing it in. Hope not. Spiller looks like he messed up the ankle again.

not on where I live. all redskins all the time. actually Chargers/Skins should be pretty good.. my daughter is back from college today for a day or two maybe we hit Jimmy's Old Town in Herndon for the game. all Bills all the time in there.

whatever , the guy is a quiet type who brings it on gameday. all you can ask for

probably. hard to imagine Tuel or the D putting up much against KC, but this team is very, very unpredictable this year.

special teams, turnovers and the crowd could swing it (if the crowd is quiet on offense and nuts on defense)...

no more warning points !! yay !! signed, the kinder gentler 8&8

who knows with this team this year. every week (other than New Orleans) has been a little adventure into the utter unknown

every stadium will look like that on game day if the blackout rules go away

um. yes.

12th Man + Run Game + Defense + positive thoughts = hope. Lets not go to the dark side here. Positive thoughts. special teams TD, turnovers, never know with this years group. beat up at QB, but it can be done. Think Tuel at Indy in preseason. kid pitched the rock around pretty good there. Frank Reich 1.5 maybe.

To not take Manziel if he's there would be insanity. I am sure he won't be there, but that kid has it all.

Yes he is out of options. Root for the kid to do what he did to Indy. Period. Support him. he is all we have at this point. Turnovers lose games. Key injuries lose seasons. We may be looking at the second one. We shall see.

+1. I've had a LCL sprain. You feel like your knee will simply collapse. And it hurts like hell. Takes time for the ligament to heal as there is very little blood flow to a ligament. they have all kinds of acceleration methods with ultrasound, heat and other stimulations, but time is still the answer.

ONLY on DEFENSE people. This is not get bombed and blabber all day. this is get bombed and yell at the top of your lungs when we are on DEFENSE. Act like the 12th man. We are likely to have a QB out there who will be confused and unsure. 30,000 drunks screaming in his ear only hurts the cause.

this game is on just about everywhere with a few exceptions... this is their opportunity, or should I say, oppor"tuel"ity

too beat up to compete this week. Bills will look like s__t on national TV yet again. boy this gets old. root for the defense and special teams. That is all we have this week. Anyone see Kellen Clemens stink it up Monday night? that is what you will get Sunday. Just need to be quiet when the offense is on the field and go nuts the rest of the time.

Thoughts?

New stadium never happening. the area and the state cannot afford it in any scenario

part of the experience, colors in the trees, cold overcast.. good football weather

This is our Super Bowl and the fans need to treat it as such. This game is a tipping point. Find a way to win it and this thing starts to turn in the right direction for good. The 12th man never meant so much as it will on Sunday. hey hey hey, no negative nellies this week. This is the game we have been waiting for since they cleaned house.

No. We need to hope TL, the run game and turnover defense can get us 1 or 2 of the next 3, get EJ back and go on a run against weaker opposition in the 5 games after the bye. they need to go 6 and 2 in the second half. If TL gets us past the Chiefs, he will have done his job as a backup, beating Phins on road and Chiefs at home. I think EJ is back for the Jets.