8-8 Forever?

Polian's always been about getting his son a GM job. That is his total M.O. I am sure he made it part of the deal and Pegs said no. And that was that.

9-7. liked that. you're lashing out like a 10 year old. Lets just see if the next guy can beat 9-7. hope so.

Schwartz is under contract for 2015. He isn't going anywhere this coming year.

Anyone of Kubiak's stature would need to be good with EJ. That may be the sticking point. Unless we can grab Sam Bradford and pair him with Kubiak. That combo might be pretty cool. Bradford is a lot like Flacco. I like it.

From the day RWS died, you knew this was coming. Its all getting blown up and they are starting over. Maybe Schwartz stays, which would be good, but everyone else is out IMO. That is the history on these things, no reason to think it will be any different here.

Hope so. that is the bet,yes.

fair enough, but you cannot expect Marrone to take that kind of risk with a new owner... he had all the cards when he negotiated his contract b/c ownership could have changed at any time.

Marrone took a hell of a risk taking the Bills job with RWS on his deathbed. Any incoming Bills coach (and his lawyer) sees RWS dying soon and a new owner probably putting their own people in. When you pay $1Bil for something, you bring your own people in to run it (common sense). Plus the team could have been moved to who knows where. So , you logically put a parachute clause in which says upon new ownership, you either re-commit to me , or I can opt out (eg. in case the team is moving to another country lets say) and take a years pay as severance. Pretty standard stuff. Smart deal. Bills had no choice as ANY incoming guy would have required the same kind of contract language, given the riskiness of the job being one heartbeat away from getting blown up.. I've been saying for 3 years that no top guys, management coaches or players will come here until stable long term ownership was in place. Why do you think we've been stuck with the Jaurons, Gaileys and Marrones of the world, ? No top tier guy wanted or needed to take the risk. You are NUTS to lay this at Brandon's feet. he had no choice. no one was taking this job without some protection of this kind. this is standard stuff in the business world when the incoming executive has all the leverage (which was the case here) given the likelihood of RWS near term demise. Good job Marrone and team. You protected yourself against the likely scenario of Pegula replacing the coaching staff. Since Pegs did not extend Marrone after a pretty good season when Marrone asked for it, you can be pretty sure Pegs was at a minimum leaning towards not keeping Marrone after next season. So Marrone pulled the trigger , took his 1 year severance payment while there were still 5 NFL HC jobs open. Not sure Marrone had much of a choice. Pegs buying the team pretty much ensured this was going to happen one way or another. Pegs had his shot to make him his long term coach. He passed. That's his perogative. Marrone simply protected himself and his family from a very likely scenario. Smart.

New Ownership baby. I respect Pegs for wanting his own people. You don't spend $1Bil and not put your own people in charge. All good. I am fired up. Stable, deep pocket ownership . Promising team. Many will be interested. Love it. Go Bills. A new era has dawned, after 20 years of crap. Hang on, bitches, fun about to begin.

New Ownership baby. I respect Pegs for wanting his own people. You don't spend $1Bil and not put your own people in charge. All good. I am fired up. Stable, deep pocket ownership . Promising team. Many will be interested. Love it. Go Bills. A new era has dawned, after 20 years of crap. Hang on, bitches, fun about to begin.

New Ownership baby. I respect Pegs for wanting his own people. You don't spend $1Bil and not put your own people in charge. All good. I am fired up. Stable, deep pocket ownership . Promising team. Many will be interested. Love it. Go Bills. A new era has dawned, after 20 years of crap. Love it.

We shall see. Marrone does have a win-now tendency, which means EJ sits until he demonstrates on the practice field 100% mastery of the position. That could be awhile.

Plus if Detroit has a high end high school FG kicker we lose that one too. So the Chiefs/Texans losses wash out against the Minn/Det wins. As Parcells says, you are what your record says you are. We are a 9-7, maybe 8-8 type team. A QB and O Line away from 10-6, maybe 11-5. We shall see. That seems a long way away, but we shall see. New owner needs to step up .

this team is ready to win now, with O line and QB help now.. so no, these experiments will be secondary i think

yep. the defenses are ahead of all but the top 5 to 10 offenses. D Lineman are plentiful and when they go down, are replaceable. quality O Lineman are few and fragile -- lose a couple and your team is screwed until the next season - cannot recover. its cost many a HC their job. 95% of College QBs just spread em out and throw to open guys. In the NFL, you spread em out and any number of Von Millers kills your qb. College game has seperated from the pro game at the QB position. Not sure where we go from here when Teddy Bridgewaters are the cream of the crop.

pretty sure the opt out clause was to protect him from an owner relocating the team. 3 day opt out is so short it had to be in contemplation of some kind of disaster scenario, which is not the case. The really good news so far is no one is going after Schwartz as yet

1) Buffalo is not his hometown. 1) was an attempt at humor. OK now for the reality: a) The NFL is a very dangerous game, one play and your career and income potential is gone forever. b) Rookies sign a low value rookie deal, usually 4 or 5 years. Hughes' rookie deal is up c) Hughes has a rare abiilty that is coveted in today's NFL. he gets to the QB on a regular basis. Teams pay huge $$ for this particular ability d) This will be Hughes last large NFL contract in all probability Therefore expect him to cash in the maximum about possible to ensure his finanical future against the (highly likely) possibility he has a career ending/limiting injury during the term of his contract. So much for your hometown discount idea. Bills either step up to that reality or watch as someone else does it. Simple. Just like Byrd, Whitner, Peters, Pat Williams, Antoine Winfield and all the others. You get what you pay for in free agency. That's why its so important for an relatively unattractive team/market like Bills/WNY to draft lights out every year. Draftees are trapped in this franchise for at least 4 years and you hope they can play quickly. this What made the EJ/Losman/Collins/Edwards moves so damaging. Bad drafting + top FA players leave and won't come = 15 years of suck.

He'd be great, but it won't happen unless Marrone is fired. Marrone is old school loyalty. He'll go down with the ship he brought in.

Good for you, because I am 100% certain he keeps him. As long as Marrone is here, his guys will be also.

No, he won't. End of thread

no. I just think Marrone simply wanted to win a game. that is his mindset. period. Orton was the better guy to go with rather than EJ yesterday and that is correct. These guys are in the "win" business. This isn't AAA baseball. Its the NFL.

yes. not that Glennon is the answer, but I don't think Whaley/Marrone feel QB has to be a HOFer, just a guy who stays out of trouble and puts up 3000, 25 and 12 every year with minimal sacks. Glennon could do that.

no doubt he is leaving the Bay Area, but out of the 5-10 teams who will pay his price, he is going to pick the Bills and WNY? I suppose anything is possible and maybe he knows players on the team (doubt it) but who makes that decision? This is the challenge for this organization, to somehow re package the franchise and the area and something other than perrenial losers. Hey I hope they go after and get him, I just am "from Missour"i on all this FA stuff. This ain't fantasy football, this is the real thing.

He is going to leave the Bay Area for Buffalo? Hmm.. This guy, who has been to the NFC title game 3 of the past 4 seasons, will get top dollar from his choice of any of 5-10 teams and he is going to go WNY in January and sign with the reigning no playoff team?

yeah. seems the same crew will be back next season. win 9 games and the crew will stay. hard to imagine otherwise, unless Pegs simply wants his own people in there, which could easily happen as he owns the thing.