8-8 Forever?

correct. can he edge rush? yes. has he killed or robbed anyone? No. Was Geno asking for it? Yes. Is he a beast of an NFL talent? Yes. Sign him. This ain't the BoyScouts people. This is an arena and these front seven guys are the closest thing this side of UFC to being gladiators. Move on. Go Bills.

just go win some games. who gives crap about individuals after 15 years of 8-8 + or - ??

Fred starts at RB week 1. Bet on it. Shady won't be ready and neither will Karlos. bad Hammies and Appendectomies take about 3-4 weeks in reality. Please don't bring Shady back early-- he tears that thing and its bye bye season...

Lets see how he does against the Browns first team defense this week.. He's fun to watch (Cassell is like watching grass grow). He's not getting you to the promised land, but if he stays away from turnovers, he would be OK this year from a productivity standpoint, and he is entertaining...

good player. Geno was asking for it. Do the research. you would have popped him yourself in that situation.

Its really just a sign of the times. We drank beer 30-35 years ago... admittedly lots of beer, but pretty much just that... 20 somethings today go straight to the spirits ;; get completely blotto 'd and when you are that drunk you become a different person. RWS' location and permissiveness is a perfect storm of access , opportunity and look the other way. The game is just an opportunity to do something you could not legally do and would not have the opportunity to do anywhere else. Anonymous insanity.

yeah i think we got it by now after 2 years with the guy, he's probably not the answer, at least not for this coaching staff. true franchise guy hasn't come out since Luck. lets move on. I would rather have multi threat TT/awesome run game/defense/STeams ; Sammy won't like it, but who cares; lets go win some games. is what it is. tough to find a top 10 QB. go bills.

when I first read this post, I said, knee jerk reaction,... thennnnn, I said, hey this could be it... let him run with the 1's ; if he doesn't perform then we declare we have nothing with him and we start over with EJ and TT... hmmmm...

of course. once in a lifetime opportunity...this isn't deion sanders playing baseball; this guy is like top 10 in the world in the long jump... this is serious stuff...

can we not go here. A few years ago, Realfootball365 Bills blog was really good until everyone started debating local/national politics and religion, which drove it straight into the crapper.

just win, and all that goes away. simple process. go bills/make it so

Cassel is less of a risk than the other two... my guess is its Cassell's job to lose... how could a coach look at it any other way? Who knows? This QB thing is a mess that hopefully someone steps out of sooner rather than later...

Well said. good teams draft corners somewhere in the first three rounds every year I bet. I wonder if anyone has done the draft stats on that

I would put Kurt Warner on the field before anyone we have now. We would have had to have him 6 months ago, though. So much for that idea. the way the NFL works with limited practice time, etc., you can't really drop a guy in in the middle of camp and have it work. I really think we are stuck with what we have for this year. Maybe Simms can play... Phil that is

haha lol love it Is it my imagination or is EJ's wacky pushy throwing motion even more wacky pushy-er than is was? What the h-ll is he doing?

haha yes indeed.

who knows. garopppolo is probably better than any of our qbs

QB play. period. they will see 8 in the box, which will negate the running game, forcing whoever the QB is to throw the ball. With 8 in the box , Jerry Kramer and Fuzzy Thurston have no chance at success, much less henderson and crew... when defenses know what you like to do, they take it away to see if you can do anything else...

yep. judge is like, "get out of my courtroom, i have real work to do" " goodbye"

doug played the Ralph death watch beautifully.. no one else wanted the job, he took it on his terms and now he's set for life. I don't blame him one bit. tough world out there. from the business perspective, get it while you can. no one is going to "take care of you". people forget how hamstrung this franchise was while everyone waited for Ralph (RIP) to pass. who knows what we have going forward, but this franchise hopefully is no longer one where your career (coach or player) goes to die... go bills/make it so

sounds like Dez to me.. Dez is pretty good. I'll go with hte pretty good part. Choir boys they are not.

really? Miller, Kujo and Henderson may all be starting by year end. Or maybe opening day. Whaley killed it with Miller this year. think b4 post pls.

yep. love Jets fans. funny, passionate and self deprecating at the same time. wait....

this entire thread is a bunch of hooey. can we just please give it a month and see what we've got? I know this is a fan board, but all this QB wishful thinking / hand wringing makes my head hurt. the whole thing is a blank slate . let it play out people...

will never forget the Hines Ward unbelievable cheap shot on Rivers in his rookie year... was, amazingly, a legal hit at the time...not any more (hines ward rule) guy would have been ROY whatever, short career made a pile of dough, a god at USC. he will be fine. dime a dozen.