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  1. 1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said:

    Pretty simple to OP.  Because we've sucked for 17 years.

    mnf is pretty consistent; win and you're in , lose and you're out.  Bills have no real historical storylines, other than negative ones, therefore not much TV production value; stadium in the middle of nowhere,  no real highlights to show.... . how many vid clips of the serving line at anchor bar can you show?  and did i say the team is dull?   

  2. 34 minutes ago, papazoid said:

    no intentional tanking

     

    players and coaches will never tank, their livelihoods are at stake.  

     

    some players who have lots of guaranteed money may not play so hard.

     

    some GM's may encourage coaches to play backups more to evaluate players for purposes of next season.

     

    losing will likely happen on it's own

    probably, but a win vs Colts and all of a sudden all is well, sort of.   just go and compete,  8-8 will probably just happen anyway

  3. McBeanes will do all of the above, while trying to compete and win games.   Just as they have all year as they evaluate what they have.   All has rolled out as I envisioned, I just thought TT would go down or otherwise be replaced a few games earlier.    Key injuries have occurred right on schedule (Glenn, TT, WRs,  others) , and other than swiping a couple games against poorly playing good teams they should have lost to due to excessive turnovers, the "Controlled Tank" (tanking without saying you're tanking) is pretty much rolling out.   Its all good.   Trust the process.   Hopefully they squeak out 8-8 and go get Kirk Cousins or luck out with a QB mid-draft.. .  

  4. 4 hours ago, matter2003 said:

    The Bills could play their best game of the year and still lose by 20+ points.

     

    Also what makes you think they are going to allow Tyrod to get out of the pocket?  They are the ones who wrote the book on how teams defend him now the first year he started for us and made him look inept.

     

    yep.  watching this game is a complete waste of valuable time.   put your fanboys pants in the closet and go do something else this Sunday

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  5. 6 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said:

    I actually feel bad for Tyrod.  While not the greatest QB, he is far better than what this putrid offensive scheme allows him to be.  If the offense played to his athletic, mobile strengths, I could see him being in the running to make another Pro Bowl.

    read option is ultimately a failed strategy , fun to watch, but gets QBs killed and does nothing for the pass game, which every rule in the book now favors

  6. 9 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    He was benched for disciplinary reasons. McDermott said as much today. He’s been good against the run. Teams have run right up the middle.

     

    With that being said, he has certainly been disappointing as a first round pick. He lacks explosiveness as a pass rusher. Shaq is a plugger. 

    He was drafted into Rex's scheme- disguised blitz defense .  he wasn't drafted to be a mano a mano sack artist, as Rex's defense doesn't pressure the QB that way.   In Rex's scheme, the sacker is usually disguised as a dropper -- could be anyone .   Just like Ragland was drafted as a 3-4 inside LB thumper (another Rex defense idea).    This years defense bears zero resemblence to last years so none of Rex's picks fit it.   McD plays zone, Rex wanted man cover guys.   totally different.   Really sucks when they blow it all up.   this is what you get -- all kinds of misfit parts.   but on balance, going back to straight up front 4 pressure/traditional extra man blitzes , etc.,  with zone behind it works better in todays NFL -- not much to look at , but it works better.  

  7. 13 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

     

    Time was, when guys who the Bills drafted, were out of football sitting on a couch in a few years.  Since Nix, I have to say....there have been a few exceptions due mostly to injury (Troup, Carrington) or lack of discipline (Karlos Williams), but since then most every player we have cut or let go is playing, usually starting, for another team.

    I don't think you can call that "poor drafting".  What you can call it is lack of continuity at coaching and scheme

    good for them.  Darby , Gilmore, Watkins, Ragland, Woods, Dareus, Poz all playing for top teams.   bet they're glad to be out of crazy town.   

     

    They HAVE failed to draft a high quality QB, though.   That and the coaching merry go round (thanks Ralph) are the two things that have held them back.  

  8. 13 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said:

    Okay, Ill bite. 

     Why did the turnovers stop?

    McCown, Brees and Rivers are low turnover guys.   Jameis, Carr take risk.  Jameis is frankly irresponsible at times.   Seems teams have figured out how to max protect against Hughes , et al. , as well.   Expose the bad cover guys our LBs are.   Some of these kinds of things.    Plus run right at it.   Kyle is exposed w/o the Big Fat Man next to him.... Chargers (who showed out vs Cowboys), Jets (Thursday night home game) and Saints (#1 team in NFL now) are pretty tough outs for a rebuilding team dumping to create cap space.   

  9. 26 minutes ago, JinxedBill1 said:

    The turnovers stopped.

    thats about the size of it.  Bills have been outplayed from scrimmage most of the year.   splash turnover plays completely changed 3 games (T White in Atlanta, Milano v Raiders and T White strip recovery to set up GW FG v bucs) they were getting beat from scrimmage in.   Clay, Glenn, Miller, Watkins, Woods, Dareus all gone from the lineup without replacements -- McBeanes and doing a total salary cap/roster fit rebuild.   They should be 3-7 or 2-8 and we should be talking draft, but they got lucky in a few home , non divisional games and here we are thinking stupid sh-t like playoffs.   silly fools.  KC will put another 30 burger on them and this board will be aflame on Monday.    

  10. 7 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

    Make a decision.  Do you want a team to turn it around and split the Pats, win the others and go 10-6 and make the playoffs, or crap just lose them all and go 5 -11 and take your QB without bundling picks.  I agree with the guy the other day SF might give us their 1st for our two to go up and grab our QB and then fill holes as we still have lots of picks thereafter.

     

    me, I'm hoping for 10-6.  I'm sick of being a loser and not what I did in my athletic career.

    i find the BIRGing of NFL fans fascinating

  11. 15 hours ago, matter2003 said:

    He is the real deal but two years later the team is in the same position as the Sabres are with their franchise player...namely the cellar. 

     

    What then? Its a thought nobody really talks about...all you hear is how they need this type of player...and I wholeheartedly agree.

     

    What we don't stop and talk about is what happens if he is as good as advertised but the team still sucks?  What do we do then?

    Jack Eichel is a nice player but not a franchise player.    McDavid was the franchise player and they missed on him.  

  12. who knows?  O Line is a injury riddled mess,  D Line minus Dareus is being blown up.  TT playing about 5 feet tall, O scheme not working.   WRs all walking wounded or worse.   TE's knee is as bad as ever.  I can see them losing out, not for lack of effort, its just they're down Watkins, Woods, Dareus, Williams, a pile of starters are barely able to play and the O scheme is failing.   Not sure how you turn that around.   Turnovers flip the scenario, but turnover margin is a fickle thing.   Unless the opponent is in worse shape than they are come a particular game day or the turnover train starts up again, I don't see them very competitive going forward.  

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