SAM HARRIS

i agree and it strikes me so much how christians r the ones who talk about humility and admitting that its ok to b wrong, not sure, forgiveness, and on and on and on, yet they make these claims about creationism or the bible that tell people like hawkins well i see how u got all those equations over there but it says right here that god created the earth and eve came from a rib. unreal, just unreal. and then this guy stupidnation talks about 100 years ago this is common knowledge. hey buddy i think 100 yrs ago we also found out santa wasnt real..................................

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just admit it u hate willis becuase deep down u know he is one hell of a rb!

look it doesnt matter what anyone's opinion is of mcgahee while he was with the bills, the point is if u think rice is a better option or more talented then wm then something is wrong with ur mind. i think it has to do with hate rather than talent when it comes to wm being a darn good back! http://www.protrade.com/content/DisplayArt...ad-056cf90382ab

cant is what i meant. sry

people that delve into political correctness and can take the heat!!!!!!!!!!

wtf??????

great read!

russell's teapot, (one of my favorite), should have ended so many arguments but 4 some reason it wont, i guess old habits do die hard...

i guess not....

do u have anything at all to say relating to the spectrum of this thread?

whatever man, go drink a beer and calm down. not really sure how my conversation in this thread isnt tenable?

critique ideas relevant to the discussion, not to elevate yourself while pointing out others mistakes not relevant to the discussion in particular with grammar. relax dude we all know how smart u r. its ok, im sure us subordinates will adhere 2 ur instructions.

sry but u r not my professor, this is a message board so go and critique somewhere else.

sometimes i am to serious haha but anyways how did u like philosophy and what specific studies do u dive into now that help with the big questions?

i just got out of the coast guard and plan on going to school and studying philosophy and also microbiology. anyways i think truth is more concise and tenable then u let on and most of the time its a great thing when we realize that, hey, we can have ethics and morality in our discourse without the idealogy of sin... but yes sometime we dont always like the taste of truth and we will especially as bills fans always lie to ourselves in the name of faith!!!!

lol

its not a matter of being disapointed its just me searching for truth and identifying what is the best way to search for truth, faith or reason?

would u accept my answer in the court room that my fingerprints magically showed up and the prosecution has to prove that it didnt.... come on people.

nobody wants to answer the question?????? what r u calling god? where is he? what is outside of time and the universe..... what is god made of? also this design argument makes no sense because by your logic since the universe is so complex it needs a designer, well by ur own definintion the designer needs to b just as or more complex therefore he must need a designer. unless u think god randomly came into existence... which doesnt make sense. any other answer would go against ur own logic.

this is a great way to destroy how bad the philosophy of faith is.... if i was charged with murder and in the court room i said prove to me that my fingerprints or dna or any other forensic evidence didnt showed up by the powers of magic... end of argument, faith when it comes to metaphysics doesnt make sense. science with intellectual honesty is how we should approach metaphysics. so far i think these claims in the bible coupled with the faith argument dont make any sense.

this logically doesnt make sense, do i have to have faith that zeus or thor or the easter bunny doesnt exist. no what is god? where is he? what is he made of? and why r there so many beliefs about him? each one of these questions can be asked about santa or a leprechaun and we still have no answer i think that shows that there might b a problem with thinking he exists...

im not making any claim, christians r saying this is god and its true, im responding. sry but i think the onus is on u respectfully.

This is very easy for anyone to understand, i will try and clarify i am not making any claim you r stating that god exists just like u might state that the easter bunny exists... that fine but the onus is not on the one responding to the claim on a truth. russell's teapot is a great ex i will use ur argument and tell me if it makes sense that i need to prove that god doesnt exist... i believe that it is true that there is a teapot in eliptical orbit around r sun. can u prove to me that this isnt true........... no can u b agnostic about such a teapot.............. not really since u cant prove to me that teapots dont exist clearly its ok for me to believe that it is TRUE that teapots or a teapot is in eliptical orbit around r sun. do u see the problem with ur argument....

religion is a word that is like sports there are thousands of religions, this should trouble fundamentalists. 4 some reason it doesnt, i think there is a big difference when u say god or a higherpower or the whole of humanity and science r different yes. but arguing the same way for the christian god is way way different.... i feel safe saying people cant raise from the dead or there r no such thing as a talking snake... IN HONESTY THE QUESTION BEING ASKED AT NAUSIM IS WHAT ARGUMENT DO WE HUMANS, WITH THE CONFLICT IN RELIGION BECOMING A PROBLEM IN THE EAST VS THE WEST, WHAT ARGUMENT DO HUMANS HAVE AGAINST REASON OR COMMON SENSE OR EVIDENCE? i mean either jesus is full of magic powers or he isnt.