HardyBoy

I'm sure 2020 still featured a lot of half field reads (I'm assuming that makes it easier for receivers, but probably if it was easier it was because Allen needed routes to be locked in more at that stage of his development), but I think an even bigger factor was the empty stadiums. Basically the first reasonably full away stadium they played in was Arrowhead in the divisional that year and it really looked like it impacted the offense a lot, which could explain the benefit gained from the lack of crowd noise for especially a rookie wr that was winning because of schemed up mismatches a lot. They play hurry up, Allen gets to the line with 20+ seconds on the play clock, Daboll reads the presnap and gives Allen the audibles through the helmet before it cuts off at 15 seconds, Allen is able to communicate it really easily to the receivers and there you have it. I think you're right on this is how Beane has learned and feels deeply is the best way to build a team, but it requires those one year wrs to be able to come in and perform immediately and Beane is too good a talent evaluator for the number of receivers to have come in to all look mediocre like they have the last few seasons. Really hoping that they let these wrs start just playing instead of having to think so damn much all the time. I feel like I am hoping that the offense starts empowering the receivers to beat their match up, instead focusing on having them beat the scheme...just go out there and win the match up and have Allen's eyes/progressions get to the receiver at the moment he'll be able to tell if they won in terms of getting the right leverage on the defense so he can throw with anticipation.

What are your thoughts on the team building strategy of finding value (not necessarily cheap) veteran wrs on one year deals instead of drafting if you are concerned you don't have the cap to sign them longterm? Thinking about production curves, you're probably going to be getting more production from the veteran during their rookie season and I would think equal production from the next season's veteran as the then 2nd year draft pick. Is the real problem (at least for that strategy) the over complicated offense, especially at the receiver position? Or maybe is that why beane isn't drafting a receiver? (My guess is he's not drafting one because of below, but the one's he's bringing in are not thriving because it's overly complex...Beasley is a football genius and John Brown succeeded when Allen was doing a lot of half field reads, though the offense might have gotten really complex by 2020, though guessing that was more in 2021 and onward) Is there more value in drafting an upside lb that you think you can turn into a top 10 lb and see Bernard level production from them over years 2-4 of their rookie deal vs drafting a wr and having them not really add significant value over a potential one year deal veteran until the third year of their rookie deal and then you need to make a decision on getting a value extension or a fifth year option on just that one year of performance growth? Since so many receivers seem to have more of an exponential growth curve that doesn't start to really spike until year three (per the general talk people who probably know nothing about what they're actually saying...like me...about wr development, which is why I'm asking you)

I was so excited for Hardy, just unfortunate all around

Lyrics from the first two verses and the chorus: Well all I know is everything I’ve learned And if I’m changing that's the reason that I’ll turn Into someone I can trust Before I turn back into dust There's an answer but I wouldn't be concerned Out of everything I’ve seen and all I’ve heard And everywhere I’ve been around the whole wide world There's still something I can't find I've been lost within my mind Since you fell out of my sight without a word Well I thought I knew it all Till I crashed into the wall Let me learn from my mistakes And try to pick up all the pieces

Is Hopkins available? Do you have any actual insight into why Bass had a down year? I know that 95%-99% of us have no idea what we're truly watching, because football is so damn complex, but I'd argue that number jumps to 99.9% when it comes to kickers and punters (I’ve read that most coaches and gms have no idea what they're watching when it comes to kickers and punters). Normally I don't point that out this directly, but you seem so confident that you actually know something about what you're talking about, but I'm probably 95% safe to say you have absolutely no idea and are just group thinking with the other 95% of people without trying to understand the situation and actually try and cobble some type of insight by listening to people who know what they're talking about on the subject and synergizing ideas together. And it's all good, I'm not really judging how you do sports, have at it and have fun...I don't do it that way, I don't agree with that approach and when it gets too noisy and group thinky I push back, but enjoy your hobby as you see fit as long as you're not like sending threats to Bass or anything...my one recommendation is to realize it's something that's happening (feeling very confident that you're right about something you don't really know anything about, with a huge group of other people), because sports is one thing, but be mindful of it in other areas of life because it can be a treacherous path in other areas of life.

This reminds me of the Pats Panthers super bowl in like 2004

I'm scared to ask what the final question was...so many to choose from... _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Or _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Or _ _ _ _ _ _ I could go all night

More than that, they getting around laws, regulations and taxes that are in place for cable tv

It really feels like to me he pushed the coaches to explain the purpose of certain concepts and Losman basically realized that they were largely frauds...like yes they obviously understood football at an elite level, but as far as actually innovating and building something, I'm guessing he uncovered that they were frauds and were just doing the things that you're supposed to do, instead of having and understanding the actual purpose behind it and truly building something, or maybe it was that and a mix of being so terrified of failing and thinking it's better to deliver something mediocre than try to build excellence, without having the true nuanced conceptual understanding to realize that failing (at least quickly and in small ways that prove it will fail generally) is really good and important. It's allowing you to eliminate dead ends while getting rid of the clutter paths when trying to build connections and it's those connections that allow you to be flexible and dynamic. They just build silos that ultimately are a net negative because they prevent connections from happening, but all sit around patting themselves on the back congratulating one another on a great job well done and promoting themselves to higher level roles through a nepatonistic cluster of crap organizational politics, while shifting all the blame and basically all of the work and none of the credit to the people who see through it and still try and make things excellent, because they know those people care so much and will not let it fail (even though they should). Ahem, as I mentioned earlier up thread, this stuff happens in business too and perhaps I can relate a bit with JP in terms of what was written in that Athletic article. But in case you think I'm being crazy, think of coaches that are part of a coaching tree, get hired into head coaching and coordinator positions, but then fail. The Packers and Eagles DCs are great examples...they just run "the Fangio" defense all the time, without realizing there is a time and place for it and not understanding why it works or the purpose or whatever, so they fail (I watched a YouTube video on that yesterday actually)... I'm not crazy (at least about this...though I have no idea how to get out of that type of situation, cause at least in my case I keep thinking things will change or people will start to listen).

That's not at all what that Athletic article made it sound like. Sounds like the coaching staff felt threatened by a super smart, curious and passionate kid who wanted to truly understand things...he likely found contradictions in what people were saying, called them out and those people realized they got figured out as not actually really truly knowing what they're talking about, so they basically quiet fired him. Happens in business often as well...ask me how I know.

https://theathletic.com/2537042/2021/04/23/ex-bills-qb-j-p-losman-didnt-let-his-disappointing-nfl-career-define-him-instead-he-found-his-calling-at-clemson/ It's behind a paywall...that coaching staff and organization would have broken Josh Allen too, just how they broke JP. I think people minimize the importance of having humility and a growth mindset in a leadership position and let really smart and passionate people genuinely ask why things are a certain way, not because they are challenging authority, but because they want to deeply and truly understand ideas and how things connect.

JP should have been a franchise QB, that coaching staff and organization ruined him...please don't lump him in with EJ, he was significantly better physically and mentally at the position. Still bums me out how badly they wasted JP and if he came into the league now, in the right spot, I think he would be elite (not right spot in terms of having the right players or system around him, but a genuine support system that knew how to coach him...he reminds me of Josh Allen a lot honestly in a lot of ways

Word salad gibberish you heard from someone who makes money off clicks...it's a grift my man

I mean he had 20 interceptions in 65 games played, including leading the 85 Bears in picks at 6 then blew out his knee and had to retire...as an undrafted player...I'd say whatever instinct and drive he has inside him is pretty freaking killer and competitive, but I do agree he's not rah rah and he seems like he'd rather jump on an inevitable mistake than give up plays trying to force one.

It's more going to be because of the owner imo

I don't get it either...I was actually annoyed at first, but more so because of the commercials and the add placement... it's not something that's a big deal to me anymore personally, they show people's families in the stands all the time when something good happens, shoot they showed Giselle all the time and she was probably more popular than Taylor Swift and people didn't have this reaction. The answer to your question is you're probably on a different algorithm from the one that is causing people to have that type of visceral reaction. There are people who say they view her as a political threat, but really I think they are just trying to capitalize on her popularity as well and use her popularity to amplify their message to a broader audience by driving increased engagement numbers...it's all a grift and it's just grifting to the next thing that can be used to amplify that grift by getting people all amped up about something else that they didn't care about last week and didn't realize they cared about today until they started getting blasted with it on the social media dopamine phone crack dispenser.

The biggest takeaway for me is they are going to be trying to do short term solutions to try and save their jobs. I think Saleh is probably a good coach and hoping for his own sake he learns from this and does a better job blocking outside stuff out going forward (my guess is a bunch of us would get caught up in that stuff as well in his position the first time we face it). That said, I think they probably should have made a coaching switch only because the second most dangerous thing is a coach making short term moves to try and save their job, and the most dangerous is a gm doing that.

I'm worried about someone getting hurt in that flag football game... at least it's not on sand I guess, but flag football definitely can get physical and they're probably going to actually try

What on earth are you talking about?! He had a bit over 1,100 yards rushing and like 450 receiving...I'll help you do the math quick... 1,100 + 450 = 1,550 1,550 ÷ 17 = over 91 yards a game Teams were absolutely game planning for him, one of the opposing coaches called him the best Bills rb since Thurman Thomas. I'm just confused by this take, it's really confusing and just ignores reality.

Why do you say that about Cook? Can you back it up at all?

You actually think the nfl is liberal?! Omg, who the heck is telling you that jiberish?

I do think with the rotation, sack rate as a function of pass rush situations is probably more important than just looking at sack count. Or maybe total team sacks, or total pressures in clutch pass situations.

That's freaking embarrassing... Bills fans also destroyed McKelvin's lawn after his fumble

Here's to hoping that Shorter is a huge revelation next year. People who scouted him in high school and college said his college wr coaching was really bad and with really good nfl coaching he could be a huge steal, but it would take a year...here's hoping that's true.

Losman was actually really solid in franchise mode in Madden 06 or whatever after a few seasons fwiw