QB Bills

You mean to say that you dreamt about Peyton Manning joining the Bills and he wasn't even the QB? Man, us fans can't even get our dreams right.

I can barely understand what you're saying. And I'm sure you'd feel the same way if that was your wife or sister.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/columnist/brennan/2003-11-06-brennan_x.htm Ya...real class guy. Stop idolizing athletes, people.

I hate most of the player moves this team makes but that one I was fine with. I doubt they could have gotten much more for him and Fred Jackson was (and still is, imho) the better player.

He's the guy who flexed his bicep after delivering that cheap headshot to Freddie. Him hurting his knee after being juked out of his jockstrap by spiller two weeks ago was one of the highlights of the season for me. Hopefully that led to this.

This is a long thread, and I don't expect you to read it all, so I'll save you some trouble. Nobody here is reasonably suggesting that special teams was the only weak spot and the cause of the 6-10 finish. Everyone can also agree that special teams are not as vital to a teams success as offense and defense. Having said that, its not something that a coach can gloss over either. You hire coaches who control certain parts of your team so having a good X, doesn't mean you are sacrificing a good Y. They are not mutually exclusive. This is why I don't understand some of the posters on here saying, for example, "the offense sucked, how can you blame the special teams?" The problem with the "its only one year, give them some time" mentality is that you can pretty much excuse anything that happened over the 16 games. Its not logical. Just like expecting a proven failure (Crossman) to finally get it in his umpteenth year and help your team. The guy has never shown improvement at any of his previous stops, and really has nothing going for him other than being chums with the head coach. Its easy to say its the players, not the scheme because there's no real way for a fan to prove either case. But looking at it from all angles, it sure appears to be the coaching. But with all of this, I believe the underlying reason why this thread has gone on for 20+ pages is because of what it says about the head coach. We all want him to succeed and be the guy we want him to be, but I'm finding it very hard to feel that way after his first year here. This decision doesn't help that.

Nonsense. Fix the black hole at qb and watch Stevie flourish.

I was hoping that he may have told you something different outside of the press conference. Something like "Obviously, I'm gonna fire Crossman, but I just want to cash in on the free dinner he promised me for hiring him first. Obviously."

Do you have any insight into this from OBD? Is it even true that they have already decided not to get rid of Crossman? If so, any concrete reasons why?

Aside from not calling more designed screen plays or lining up CJ out wide, I was alright with his play calling. Also, he used a bit too much of the shotgun. Its hard to evaluate him with the triple turd sandwich served to him at QB this season.

So essentially what you're saying here, and in your other posts, is that special teams don't really matter. You should apply for a position with the Bills. I think you have exactly what they're looking for.

Anyone have that same all-too-familiar feeling after reading this? That "oh crap, not again" sensation that makes you frown, lower your head and exhale deeply. It happens the same way. New coaching staff/mgmt comes in. You don't know what to think of them but you're skeptical because you've been burned before. But you have hope because it might be different this time. Then one morning, you wake up, and before getting out of bed, you check the TBD forums on your smartphone like you do every morning. You're skimming the topics with one eye closed and something catches your one open glazed eye and any faith you had in the new regime is thrown out the window. "rumour: kelsay re-signing for 4 more years" "adam schefter is reporting the bills are extending dick jauron" "ryan fitzpatrick on verge of signing 59 million dollar contract extension" And today, "Crossman Retained" My first thought is always the same. What would I have to do to eventually become the Bills GM? Go back to school? Intern at OBD? Shovel Ralph's driveway? Because I really feel at that moment in time I could do a better job than these people.

No. If I remember correctly, they finished behind Jax and baltimore, both of whom didn't make it at 9-7 also.

Prediction: Marrone will go down as a worse coach than any of his predecessors over the last decade-plus of futility. This clueless jock is in way over his head.

One of these things is not like the other

Hope they just leave it as is. Also, what's kind of sad is that if they had this extra wild card team the last 14 years, we still never would have made it.

The worst qb error they made in the last decade was selecting Jp losman. It potentially cost them Aaron Rodgers the following year.

For the last 7 years, the bills have lost (and usually convincingly) to the nfc rep in the super bowl. Therefore bet the house on the saints to win tonight and the next two weeks after that.

I remember that raiders game actually dipping down to -40 with the wind chill as there was a graphic on tv stating that was the temperature where Celsius and Fahrenheit were equal.

Sandra bullock for qb

Didn't Arizona get eliminated by sf winning on Monday?

Couldn't agree more. Listen to pettine's presser from yesterday. He sounds so much more professional and knowledgeable than Marrone it's not even funny. Marrone comes across as typical jock-turned-coach who's platitudes are better served for the college or high school game. Are you kidding? They had one blown assignment on the second play of the game. Other than that, tb rushed for 85 yards and had 81 yards passing in total. This defense has more often than not been very good.

Not for nothing, but technically ej Manuel is the more experienced nfl qb. Thad Lewis had only one start coming into this season. With even average qb play this team would have been in the playoffs this year.

You might be right. If that's the case, then Marrone isn't the type of coach the bills should want.

Cut Fred Jackson? What are you talking about? He has the most rushing TDs of his career this season, and his YPC is around his career average. Where do you see him slowing down? The only way you may be right is because the Bills have historically been shown to be incompetent when it comes to player evaluation. If they do cut him, it would be a stupid mistake. As did I. He is and always has been a better player than CJ. And Lynch, for that matter.