QB Bills

This thread is full of people who buy into these self imposed restrictions the bills place on themselves. Fact is, they can spend up to the cap and still be profitable. That means paying Byrd. Paying Aaron Williams next year. Paying whoever. They just choose not to. Don't believe the hype folks.

According to Schefter, the cap is going up to $150m in two years. Sign Byrd!

this guy agrees

Really wish the Bills are able to snag him. I hated seeing Patrick Willis and Luke Kuechly picked in the draft slots right before us. Would love to have him and Kiko wreak havoc for years on that defense.

I don't know about that. The last time this happened, a punter ran in a fake for a touchdown. That was pretty embarrassing.

How much would he command? He's been a pretty good player historically, so I can see some team offering him quite a bit. As stated above, sign him and Byrd and the defense looks quite formidable.

You realize a few of us on the board were asked to take the browns coaching job before they offered it to pettine. Pretty sure they force him to sit down and pee when he uses the facilities at the stadium too. I seriously doubt he'll have any say on trading the 4th overall pick.

Our receivers are good. Shore up the line, get a good TE (maybe Moeaki is the guy), and start throwing deep more than once a game. The Bills play offense like its 1985.

Video from the bills locker room.

He's not. He was open all year. Our QBs just suck.

I hear you, but I think as fans of a team, we sometimes have an inflated or deflated sense of a player's worth. Perhaps I'm overrating Stevie in the same way I believe you are underrating him, as I'm a huge fan of his and I actually love his personality. I also think he's an excellent player. The problem is that, like I've stated earlier, his best attributes are not easily quantifiable. He's not exceptionally tall, strong, or fast. But his ability to create separation and get open is among the best in the league and unless a player is a total mismatch (which you can say for maybe 4 or 5 players in the league), that is the top attribute to have for a receiver, in my opinion. People point out him throwing up his hands after that pass by Tuel, but fail to point out him running after the Colts DB and stripping him of the ball and recovering it late in the 4th quarter last year after yet another horrible Fitz pick. That doesn't fit the narrative of him coming up small in big moments, so its conveniently glossed over. At the end of the day, a WR can't throw the ball to himself. His production is dependent on the QB and scheme. I don't think you'll find many people who would say Larry Fitzgerald isn't an elite receiver. But look at his stats over the last five years. He's had one year of 1400+ but the rest of the time, he's been just above or below 1000. And then look at his stats when Kurt Warner was his QB. If you put Stevie Johnson on that Denver team in 2012 when Peyton Manning gets there, and Eric Decker was here, we're not having this conversation.

Now Eric Decker is better than Stevie too? What is wrong with bills fans?

I couldn't agree more. The guy is in way over his head. And that video is hilariously spot on. Never seen it before but what an apt example!

Where's the option for 19? :-[

This is just wrong on every level. He hadn't missed a game until this year. The last two were not injury related anyway. And only the simplest of observers would think his lack of production is due to anything other than the trainwreck at qb.

Therein lies the question. Would they prefer to pay out more actual dollars and have more cap room by keeping Stevie? Or pay less actual dollars and have less cap room when they sign some jobber to replace him for 3m a year? It's the Bills. So I don't have a good feeling about this.

The team doesn't care about the cap hit. They're never close to the max anyway. But they will save real money by cutting him. And that they do care about. If this does happen, its business as usual at OBD. One step forward, two steps back.

Wow. I'd love to hear which teams you're referring to.

How could anyone not love this guy??? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qOQ17zKaU8

So you don't consider what he dealt with a real problem? And the fact he has millions of dollars should somehow afford him less empathy? That's ridiculous. And where are you getting him using the national stage to seek approval? I don't remember anything like that happening. As for walking away from the money...he may have collected his salary last year, but going forward, he knowingly put his career, and therefore, earning power at risk. And he's not throwing away a five figure salary by quitting like any other random guy in his mid-20s. Regardless of whether you or anyone else would have handled it differently is not up for debate here. He didn't have it in his mental makeup to confront the guy and felt helpless. Unless you lack basic empathy, how can anyone feel anything but bad for him? Who said anything about courageous? Some people are just born without that confrontational gene. He doesn't need to be vilified because of it. Its not like he did himself any favours by leaving the team. Btw, Chan got fired over a year ago.

Come on man. You're one of the best glass half-empty posters on here. I mean that in a good way, honest. Don't fall into the "if that was me, I'd have..." line of thought that plagues this issue. The fact that he was willing to walk away from all those millions you refer to because of this should help you understand how handcuffed he felt.

Assuming he has options, which is no safe bet, I doubt he'd want to play in the same division as Miami. He seems like a nice guy and he's got talent. Why wouldn't you want him on your team? The things he dealt with were way over the top. I doubt its that bad in a locker room with Fred Jackson and Kyle Williams as your team leaders.

The fact that there are some people out there who still want Ryan Fitzpatrick anywhere near this team's roster makes me sad.

I'd take it a step further. I say he sucks and has no business being even on a CFL roster. A team would be crazy to even give up an 8th round pick for him. Did you see him drop the ball against the Steelers the other day?? What kind of player can't catch a ball that hits him in the hands? Even I could have caught that. Sure he's had a couple of decent years stats-wise, but imagine a decent receiver playing with the likes of Ryan Fitzpatrick, Trent Edwards and EJ Manuel. My God...can you imagine the numbers??? I certainly think 2000 yards is not out of the question. And imagine the guy didn't have tattoos, didn't flash jewellery and only spoke in cliches??? I'm getting so excited. I better stop before I soil myself. Now back to reality. This is from last year, but I hope everyone remembers how he schooled the new "best corner in the game" last season. And that's after some pretty good games against the old best corner in the game. The guy is awesome. Better than even some of his supporters think. He has a truly unique talent at getting open that can't defined by the conventional measurables spouted by the mouth-breathing media. Just because our team has sucked in what feels like forever, doesn't mean we've been completely devoid of talent. Some fans sure make it feel that way.

I wish they would bring back dick enberg. He was my favourite. Maybe that's just because he was the tv voice of bills teams that were actually good.