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Dont be so sure. It's possible he just wanted Kelly to come out of retirement after watching some EJ game tape from last year.

That's not entirely accurate. He has never been hit in stride the way Goodwin has. I prefer Goodwin also but Graham takes far too much abuse here. He's not bad as a deep threat. The problem is the qbs suck.

He's just trying to be supportive. This guy can't hold a candle to Spiller. Who himself can't hold a candle to Freddie.

Perfectly stated. The pompom waving crowd doesn't seem to understand this.

One small point. The falcons had Matt Ryan at the time. We have knee j

Next to Stevie, the most underrated player on the team. So...the most underrated player on the team. Eff you Whaley.

He put up some pretty good stats with Ryan $hitzpatrick at qb. Not sure why people here think some of us are overvaluing him. He's actually quite underrated in my opinion. How well did Larry Fitzgerald do the last few years before Carson Palmer came in this past season? Yes, we've been garbage for a long time. Doesn't mean we haven't had some really good players in that time.

I echo these sentiments.

So that's where the logical discussion of this move is taking place. Reading some of the comments on here is making my head hurt. He's an excellent player that we got rid of for basically nothing. This is an unbelievably stupid move and typical of the mouthbreathing crowd to be happy about it. We are the laughing stock of the league yet again.

What a stupid stupid stupid effing team. I hate being a bills fan. Go tear it up back home in San Fran, Stevie.

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This wasn't gutsy. It was reckless.

It's not a knock against Watkins. By all accounts, he's super talented. But as you saw last year, EJ was incapable of making those safe, easy throws you speak of. His screen passes were atrocious. I just don't think teams like the Bills should be giving up future first round draft picks unless its for a potential franchise QB. Sammy Watkins was not the difference between 6-10 and 10-6 last year. Our receiving group was actually good already.

Why would a bad team trade a first round pick to draft a receiver when they don't even know if they have a QB to throw him the ball? This is such a stupid move.

I doubt that. In my opinion, it was lack of confidence in his own ability by Manuel.

Manziel. Yes, I said it.

For that matter, Graham gets a lot of hate on here, but he also was running open all season long. I don't think he's as tough or sure handed as Goodwin, but our QBs could never hit him in stride.

I've been rewatching some of the games and my God is Goodwin fast. It's hard to appreciate at first glance. He seems to have good hands too. I really think we found a diamond in the rough here. They just need to get him the ball. I think John Murphy said it best...it looks like he's about go airborne when he starts accelerating.

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You need to rewatch that last drive you keep referencing. And then buy a Fred Jackson jersey.

Word at the time was that Denver wanted Miller regardless because they had taken Tebow in round one the year before. No joke. Just goes to show you the plight of a Bills fan. We miss out on Cam because of Luck staying in school. Denver didn't even want Newton because they had Tebow. Peyton Manning gets hurt and Indy finishes last and drafts Luck. Denver signs Manning. It's almost comical.

Please. Fred Jackson won them that game on the last drive. Everything was a checkdown and Fred made all the right plays driving down the field, including purposely dropping one to stop the clock. I do remember Manuel unnecessarily whipping the ball to CJ who was five yards away and wide open. The ball obviously bounced off him and landed exactly where no defender was. He got very lucky on the drive everyone points to. And people also conveniently point to his apparent clutch play in the Atlanta game and leave out how he threw a horrible pass into a defenders arms that was dropped right before Stevie got stripped on the last drive. Sorry to break it to some of you but EJ sucked pretty badly last year. It's ok to acknowledge that and still have hope that he can be a good qb in the future. It's been done before.

Andrew Luck really screwed us by not declaring that year. We would have had Cam Newton.

We have talent everywhere except for coach and qb. Unfortunately the two places you need it most. Hopefully Manuel steps it up this season or all this offseason chatter will be for nothing.

Unless he's bringing Matt Ryan with him, what does it matter if he reminds people of Julio Jones. If the Bills really are going to sink or swim with Manuel, then get some oline help or just draft for the defense. Our skill position players are actually quite good compared to the rest of the league.