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The problem here is that if all you look at is the record, then of course you'll say that he's doing a good job. They have 8 wins for the first time in ten years. That's just myopic thinking though. I'd like to think most Bills fans are smarter than that. Just because a team wins doesn't mean they are well-coached. Conversely, just because a team loses, doesn't mean that they are poorly coached. Was Barry Switzer a good coach? He won a Super Bowl. Must be better than Marv then, right?

Yes it's true that the Bills have improved and are guaranteed to not have a losing season for the first time in a decade. It's also possible (true, in my opinion) that they are doing this in spite of the head coach. Any success this season is because of the defense - the side of the ball he is hands-off. So if you want to thank/praise anyone for that warm feeling you're having right now, save it for Schwartz and his defensive staff. With a competent coach or a competent QB (just one of those...don't even need both) this team would easily be in the playoffs.

Not Roethlisberger? He's a top 5 QB in my opinion.

It's a 'meh' move. But you know we have to keep the kickoff specialist on the team. Whose specialty is kicking it out of bounds.

Ugh...I knew this was just a matter of time. The guy has incredible speed. Not his fault he has a heaping pile of dog poo for QB and offensive coaches. Just watch the separation he gets when he runs. I always keep an eye on him when he's on the field, and its amazing how fast he is. The way he's built, it's no surprise he gets hurt. But on any competent offense, he would be an instant threat.

Latest update: Still fat, slow and weak.

I'll always root for Stevie!

4-2 Bills. Kyle Williams gets his second safety of the game in OT.

http://deadspin.com/andrew-luck-is-an-affable-weirdo-1671351814?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_twitter&utm_source=deadspin_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow Good player. Seems like a nice enough guy, unlike pretty much every other star QB. Why the hate??

Marrone's best moves were to hire two good defensive coordinators and stay the hell out of their way. Can someone tell me what he's done to help their offense, which is his specialty? Where is this forward-thinking tactician we were told about? What is it exactly that people like about him? It can't just be that the Bills are 8-6, so that means everything is all hunky dory? I look at him and I see a guy who's completely clueless when it comes to in-game decisions and hurts the team more than he helps. Lucky for him (and the offense) that the defense has bailed him out more often than not.

It's almost tragic watching this. These guys are leaving it all out on the field, then you see someone like Orton totally pussing out on that block after the interception. The defense has to overcome two offenses weekly.

Pretty sure the Colts beat the Broncos last year. Denver's first loss, if I'm not mistaken.

Goddammit, I wish I hadn't read this.

"It will be good to be the first Packers team to win in Buffalo" Screw you and your stupid smug grin, pal.

To be fair, Buddy never promised the baby wouldn't be stillborn.

He's saying that part of the reason the Bills haven't looked so hot on offense is because they've played some pretty good defenses. Where's the confusion? It's a valid point.

Is this it?

Honestly, I don't care about how they end up. I'm of the opinion that they are winning in spite of him (ie, because of the defense, of which he is hands off) and he needs to be fired regardless. The defense has gotten better. The offense has gotten worse. With arguably better players. He's an offensive coach. Fire this clown into the sun.

Not kindly, I can't.

The Bills weren't eliminated until December 15th last year, technically. They could be eliminated this Sunday (December 12). That's not a good argument.

Guess I'm in the minority, but I think it looks pretty good.

Doug Marrone slaps Bills fans in the face with his buffoonery every week yet we have people on here saying "he's not so bad". This is crazy. Are we that jaded after 14 years of this crap? As for Russ Brandon and how he's good at "the business side of things". Does anyone have an example of that? Was it hiring the Gangnam Style singer for half-time entertainment? The Bills used to be the successful small-market punchline of the NFL. Under his watch, they've become the small-market punchline of the NFL. Newsflash: The Bills are like heroin to their fans. They sell themselves. There's not one thing he's done that has brought in one more fan to RWS (selling inventory, as he likes to call it) or sold one more jersey. Or added one more user to this forum for that matter. The guy is as slimy as they come. I feel like I need a shower after listening to his radio spots on WGR.

Haha...I thought I was the only one who caught that. What a complete meathead. Hopefully we never have to hear from this bum ever again after this season.

I was at that game. Roscoe Parrish scored on a nice long bomb, if I remember correctly. The Pats may have scored a few times too...can't remember. Lots of alcohol involved. Wonder if we won that night. Oh well.

Being a Bills fan is tough CBF. At least you get to live in the best country in the world.