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Kyle Orton is a really good and underrated QB. I was ecstatic when we signed him and knew it was just a matter of time before he started. Now, all we need is a halfway decent coach and this team is in great shape.

He's the best player on the team. They better pay him.

You sound like a scorned lover. Hell hath no fury and all that... http://blogs.democra...-history/?p=397 Read Marcellus Wiley's quote in there. Probably carries more weight than good ol' Bucky Gleason. If Flutie doesn't get benched, the Bills just might have won the Super Bowl that year. You'd still probably hate him, but more power to you.

I like hypothetical trade scenarios too. For those who would do this trade in a second (again, assuming Indy would agree, which they never would), at what point would you say "too much"? Who else would have to be added? Dareus? Aaron Williams? Kiko? I know some people would trade all 53 players but that is ludicrous, no?

Need to mention this for my own sanity before moving on to tomorrow's game. May have been stated here somewhere but I feel as though it deserves a little more scrutiny. At the end of the first half, Spiller fumbled and New England recovered and had the ball at the Bills' 42 yard line with no timeouts and six seconds left. Pretty much out of field goal range. The only thing they can do is throw a hail mary or a quick out pattern to gain some quick yards for a field goal. Football 101 would tell you to cover the near sidelines and have a couple of guys deep to cover the bomb. What do these monkeys in Bills jumpsuits do? Rush 2, and send 9 guys deep and give New England the quick out pattern with nobody covering the receivers. They practically handed them 3 points. That wasn't the difference in the game, and there are a lot of other stupid coaching moves this moron keeps making every week but this was a blatant black and white, non-subjective type of supreme coaching idiocy that really pissed me off. And nobody in the media even asked him about it. It was exactly like the end of the Monday nighter against the Cowboys from 2007 where Jauron did the same thing (giving an uncovered Patrick Crayton a free 7 yards or so after recovering the onside kick) and allowing Folk to kick the winning field goal. To be honest, I have been skeptical about this coach since his first game last year when he challenged a fumble that the Bills didn't recover anyway. He's a completely clueless meathead out there and it's embarrassing. Like many others, I feel this team has what it takes to win the division and maybe even do some damage in the playoffs. I think Orton is good enough at the moment. But it seems as though the coaches are going to sabotage the season.

Thanks mrags! Was saving my thousandth post for a Bills playoff game. But needed some answers asap... And any input is appreciated. And thanks to the rest of you for replying. What about the big tree inn? Whats the deal with that? Andre mentioned it in his HoF speech.

Hey folks, going to the game this Sunday...had couple of questions that maybe some of you could clear up.. 1) Got seats in the 6th row (lower bowl) right around the 45 yard line. Pretty cool as I've never sat anywhere other than the cheap seats. But I was wondering if that might be a "not-so-sweet" spot of being too far from the players, yet too close to them so the view is obstructed by not being able see over their heads. Has anyone sat in a similar area? 2) For tailgating, if I don't bring my own food, do people sell theirs out in the parking lot? Or are there vendors that do so before the game starts? Same question for beer just in case we are unable to get any. 3) Any good places to eat/hang out after the game? Anchor bar? Maybe within walking distance so we don't have to sit in our car waiting for traffic to clear? Thanks

No disrespect to Watkins, but this is the guy I wish they had drafted.

For some of us, its not a choice.

If he stays healthy, Freddie will play at an all-pro level. But he won't get selected because the process is stupid.

Crap. Always liked Jabari. Humble guy, hell of a player. Many fans knew he was good way before the coaching staff caught on. Hated that they let him walk even though he wanted to stay here.

My favourite Twitner highlight:

I disagree about talent. I think this team is, in fact, a lot more talented than Bills teams of the past. And how competitive were they really? They finished 6-10 and four of those ten losses were one-sided. Every crappy team in the NFL has close losses that they lament..."if we had only done so and so.." I remember him mindlessly challenging a fumble in week one that the Patriots recovered anyway. I remember him sounding completely lost in post-game press conferences. I remember him picking a fight with the media early in training camp when he sounded completely out to lunch. He kept his buddy Crossman as the special teams coach despite the years of incompetence on his resume. Do any or all of these things make him a bad coach? Not necessarily, but they don't point to him being a good one either. He's known as an offensive-minded coach - a former lineman - and this offense was not designed to take advantage of the players' strengths. All of that blame gets put on Hackett, yet nobody mentions Marrone. The defense was the strong point of the team and by all accounts, he did not have nearly as much say on that side of the ball as he did on the offense. Unfortunately, a couple of years down the road, we will see that he is no better, and probably worse, than Gailey, Jauron, Mularkey, Williams. As for the Watkins trade, its no reflection on Watkins the player. I just think that a team in the Bills position should not be trading a first round pick for a wide receiver, no matter how good he is. A QB sure. But a superstar receiver does not get this team from 6-10 to 11-5 this year, even if his name is Calvin Johnson (who, incidentally was part of an 0-16 team). If the Bills were a perennial contender, and the pick was going to be in the 20s, then yes, I could see making this move. But my guess is, they will be picking in the top 10 again next year, and many people will change their tune then. It was a reckless trade, not gutsy.

Yes. In fact, I don't believe they should have been hired in the first place. Marrone looks and sounds clueless, and his gameday coaching tactics (clock mgmt, challenge selections, etc) leave a lot to be desired. I suppose Whaley can be given the benefit of doubt as we don't know if his hands are tied or not by the stooges upstairs. But I think the Watkins trade was absolutely moronic and that was all him.

I see the OP's point and he's right in a macro sense. The whole front office needs to be shown the door, from Brandon on down to the coaches. We are never going to become winners with those jobbers running the show. Having said that, an 0-16 season is not a prerequisite for that to happen, and would be downright embarrassing (more so when the Browns are at the podium with the first pick next year). I think any new owner will consider making changes whether we finish 0-16 or 8-8. For the sake of Bills fans, I certainly hope he or she does.

A healthy kiko over the USA scoring a single goal at the world cup.

That's just not true nowadays. You may have been right about that over ten years ago but with the advancements in health care (whether they are on the up and up or not is up for debate) have shown that athletes can and do come back as good as before. Sometimes even better.

Are you just kidding around here or are you actually certifiably insane? You don't think losing Kiko Alonso is significant? You think Mike Williams and Brandon Spikes are more important to the Bills than him? I wish I shared your delusional Ned Flanders-esque optimism.

Look up in the sky, you two. Is it a bird? Is it a plane? Nope, just a joke.

I just hope the Bills don't use this injury as an escape goat once the season goes off the rails.

Not to nitpick but that's actually six players. Unless you're counting Cj and tj as a half player each.

Sorry but this is a crippling injury. The defense is most likely going to have to carry the offense again and whoever replaces kiko will be a significant downgrade. Like someone mentioned earlier, the blow will be softened substantially if EJ can actually show some competence behind center.

Somewhere Brian Hoyer and his voodoo doll rejoice.

Maybe for you. But for many fans, it isn't hard to pick out the stars on a bad team if you watch the games. Fred Jackson has been a star for a while now. I actually feel bad for any bills fan who doesn't see that. Just because we haven't made the playoffs in forever doesn't mean we haven't had some very good players on this team.

Eric Wood. I like the guy and he says all the right things but anytime he has a bad game or even a bad play, the blame always goes to the left or right guard. And that's not always accurate.