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Peyton Manning has made a lot of people a lot more money than they would have otherwise.

Fred Jackson ‏@Fred22Jackson 2m2 minutes ago Extremely humbled by all the fan support. Means a lot that so many people love to see me in play in a Bills' uniform. edit: and with this, the thread title can be changed...

Wow. That's a long time to wait.

13. Pete Metzelaars 14. Ron Heller 15. Mike Mularkey

Maybe not. But Fred defies logic. Never underestimate the guy.

Let him go trip over the 5 yard line in another stadium. Putz.

The guy who could make the biggest difference is Cutler. That contract though...

Man, if they can fix this line, and Roman is not anything like niners fans say he is, I would love to see how Fred does. Perhaps he'll unseat another hotshot player that is meant to carry the load. Again.

What does that even mean?

Those are overly simple and meaningless stats without context. Not many players could have been successful with that dumpster fire of an offense last year. Even on that big run in Chicago in OT, there was a blocking assignment missed by the guard that Wood made up for with his own stiff arm to the rusher. The line was absolutely atrocious this past season.

Even the Fred supporters are kind of selling him short here. I thought he played really well last season relatively speaking. He was hurt, he played behind an awful o-line that had defenders in the backfield before he got the ball half the time, he had no QB support which led to opposing defenses selling out for the run, and he had crap offensive coaching. Look at how CJ and Bryce Brown did in the same situation.

I love what Fred brings in regards to intangibles, but forgetting all that, and strictly speaking in regards to on-field play, how could anyone think that he's not better than Bryce Brown? I don't understand the front office wanting to cut him, especially if they are in "win now" mode. His salary is paltry in the grand scheme of things.

So our owner understands offensive football better than our gm. Nice. If true, thanks Terry! This is a close second to you keeping the team in Buffalo.

If this is true, which I'm guessing it is, that is grounds for firing Whaley on the spot.

If they're doing this based on analytics, then they are working analytics wrong. Idiots.

Would it matter if he was 24 instead of 34? I'm pretty sure you aren't even aware that he has less career carries than McCoy. Look beyond his age. Look beyond the fact he's never actually been a burner. Look at what he was able to do with that awful line and with Marrone as a coach compared to the other running backs on the team. The guy has been underrated his whole career from a national standpoint. It shouldn't be that way in Buffalo where I'm guessing people actually watch the games.

Stay out of Malibu

That's a bit much. It's only football, after all.

Not outrush. He won't be given the same opportunity as McCoy to do that. But, as he's done in the past, he will outplay this latest hotshot running back if given the chance. As in, he will look more effective and get the yards that someone else wouldn't.

Great post. Everyone is giddy about the off-season but there is very little critical thinking going on here. McCoy has had a great line his whole career and has had two great offensive coaches. Look at how the backup RBs have fared in the Reid/Chip systems. If they keep Fred (which I hope to God they do), I think by the end of next year, he'll have outplayed McCoy.

Seriously, eff this team if they cut Fred. What analytics are they looking at to tell them Bryce Brown and possibly Bilal Powell are better options at running back? Can't just be salary if we're in "win now" mode right? The guy has never had a line nor a QB to play with. And he's had one good offensive mind (Gailey) since he's been in Buffalo. I can't think of many players who could have done as well as he has. And the thing is, he's still really good. But the resident ageists can't see beyond their myopic view of what a running back should look like at 34. Sadly, it appears as though a few of them work at OBD. Also, some food for thought: He has less career carries than McCoy.

I'd like to see him do well. He was always a likable guy. The Eagles would probably be the best place for him but they already have sproles so I doubt that happens. Just hope he leaves the afc east.

Apologies...I didn't see that the cap hit was down to 5.6 million. That's some good restructuring by the Bills. Still don't like the trade, but that's not a prohibitive number. Now re-sign Hughes, and get Bulaga and Iupati please.

It's not my money. I don't care how much he gets. Just saying I'd prefer to have Kiko plus whatever money saved to get someone else as opposed to McCoy.

McCoy at 16 million vs. Kiko at less than a million. Way to go Bills.