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No offense, but that's such a loser mentality. Sounds like something Dick Jauron would say.

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She gave him the cold shoulder...similar to Sammy Morris.

And this needed a new thread because? Can you go away for a while? Or at least stop starting so many stupid threads? For those of us who aren't on here that often, you're bumping some interesting topics off the main page. Nothing personal, but your posts are the equivalent of junk mail most of the time.

Absolutely. We would have been a contender the last three years also. You can hate the guy all you want, but there is no disputing the disparity in coaching pedigree between him and Dick Jauron.

I thought the Bills were interested in trading for him. Anyone heard anything about this recently? I think he would be even more of an impact player than T.O.

My favourite hasn't occurred yet. "I'd like to thank the Bills organization for the opportunity they gave me and wish them all the best in the future." An added bonus would be: "Also, I'm looking forward to simultaneously coach the other 3 afc east teams for the next 10 years."

Bill Simmons called. He wants his joke back.

It's an interesting thought, but by that argument, you could say that about a lot of receivers. I think the real point here is that you think Jerry Rice is overrated.

Weo, you're wasting your time with these mouth-breathers. They equate the degree of Bills fandom by how much they hate anyone who's not a Bill. Pretty sad because it reeks of jealousy and envy. Senator, you and your minions are completely transparent and it's pathetic. Here's the truth though. Brady is a great football player, and has a smoking hot wife. And before that, he's been with at least one other smoking hot woman. The Senator is either a guy who beats it to these women or a closet homosexual on account of his obsession with another guy's nether regions. More importantly, you do not represent good Bills fans. I await the obligatory lame gay-themed retort by Senator shoe-shiner.

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You're an idiot. If you want to hide behind the cloak of legality, then the facts are that he served his time and should be given a fresh start. The underlying notion is that what he did was morally reprehensible so that's why he shouldn't be forgiven and why you can't root for him. So what are your thoughts on putting deer heads in your living room? Can you justify it in any way other than your lame contradictory legal argument?

How do you feel about people going hunting and proudly displaying the head of a deer they shot in their living room? There is such a ridiculous hypocrisy when it comes to this stuff.

This is sadly true. I like Trent Edwards, and think he could be a really good QB in this league, but he needs to grow a pair and start taking chances on guys that are covered.

Not to be a T.O. apologist, but if you look at which receivers have the most drops, they're usually some of the top guys at that position. It's just simple math. The more you get thrown to, the higher your drops will be. I don't think anyone would argue that Braylon Edwards is a really good receiver, but he had a lot of drops last year if I remember correctly.

Are you one of his kids? http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/epitomy

hahahaha that's the best one so far

Get off your high horse. I suppose you think you are a better coach than Belichick too just because you told little mikey to stay away from drugs. This is professional football we are talking about here, not high school sports. The objective is to win, not to make a difference in their lives. If you are developing players, it's not so they will buy you a beer and tell their grandchildren about you, but rather to win. Anything else is secondary. Why do you think some players take less money to play for a winner. In every sport, not just football. Can you see someone doing that to come to the Bills to play special teams? I mean, we've got the most innovative special teams coach in the NFL, don't we? I still can't figure out whether you think Tom Brady is a great QB or not. Throwing to the tight ends for 4 yards and kicking field goals?? Are you on crack? Are you sure there's not some parallel bizarro league you've been watching for the last decade? I'm not disputing Bill Walsh or Joe Montana's credentials at all. But the reason they are looked upon so highly is because they won super bowls and were consistently good. Same as Belichick. The idea is to win, and that's how everyone measures a coach's pedigree. Everyone but you, apparantly.

This has got to be the quote of the day on here: It's a good plan, but it's not really coaching, it's system management. Guy, are you for real??? Can you explain the difference? You are all over the place here and your arguments against Belichick are actually making the case for him being great even stronger. 1. You're saying that Brady was a fluke, which may be the case, but they did have 11 wins last year with a makeshift QB who hadn't started a game since high school. I agree that Brady is overrated but that's because he's a product of Belichick's system...which reinforces how good Belichick is. 2. You're saying he can't coach great players. But he's won three super bowls. So a coach has won 3 super bowls with no great players...doesn't that say something? Personally, I think they had a few great players, but they definitely weren't the most talented team in the league when they won, and I'd argue that they still aren't. BB is the main reason they are always good. 3. You say Belichick looks for his D to win games. What's wrong with that? On a team with no great players, his D is coached pretty well if they can win games, don't you think? 4. And I don't get my football knowledge from Madden, I get it from Tecmo Super Bowl, as my name states. Madden is Dick Jauron, Tecmo is Belichick. So, just to be clear, Brady is a whiner and not a great QB. The pats don't have great players. They are only good because of the system. Add that all up and you come up with: Belichick is not that good of a coach? It seems like you have this hatred of the pats that is spawned by envy. I know I do. But at least I can give credit where credit's due. BB is a prick, but he's far and away the best coach out there. In fact, if I could pick one person, player or otherwise, to join the Bills, it would be Belichick. In any case, whenever I get overly jealous of their success, I just look at this picture of Wilfork and his wife: http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Third_P...614880_4371.jpg

You're out to lunch. 1. How does that help your argument? Doesn't that just reinforce how good Belichick is? 2. Player by player, the Rams/Panthers/Eagles were all better than the Pats also. But oh wait, they cheated, right? 3. LOL...apparantly you have been hibernating the last 10 years. Free agency is the main reason the Bills suck. In case you haven't noticed, there has been a lot more outflow than inflow in regards to FAs 4. I really don't get where your argument is going...so now Brady isn't that good either? And neither is Belichick? As for quitting, I suppose if the Bills score first against them in the opener, we'll be 1-0 going into week 2. 5. Marino was a selfish prick who was more concerned with breaking records than winning a championship. Lois Einhorn should have done him in when he/she had the chance. 6. Whatever Belichick is miles ahead of the pack in regards to preperation and coaching. I would pay the guy 15 million bucks a year to coach the Bills. And by saying "I", I really mean I would like it if Ralph did. He would have more of an effect on the prospects for the team than any player would. Bottom line is, he really is that good. His record speaks for itself.

I understand that this guy is a Bills fan just like the rest of us but can the mods limit the number of stupid threads he starts?? Skooby, I'm sure you're a nice guy, but you need to stop hijacking the board.

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In my best Costanza impression... beep, beep, beep...backup Not criticizing, but just curious as to why Whitner is your favourite Bill?

Yup. Every year the game is pretty much exactly the same with a minor tweak here or there. I guess it is difficult to revamp a winning formula every year, but something new would be nice. Doesn't matter though, tecmo super bowl is still the greatest!

It's pointless arguing with the anti-Peters group. The bottom line is, I don't think you can say you know more about football than Andy Reid or the Philly coaching staff, can you? Or combat the fact that Jason Taylor said he was the toughest O-lineman he has ever faced (no, I don't have a link, so you can choose not to believe me if you wish). You don't get better by trading away your best players. Was how he went about renegotiating right? Of course not. Nobody will argue that. But as fans, our concern should always be whether any move made or not made makes the Bills better. And if you don't feel that this trade makes the Bills much weaker, then you really don't know much about football, sorry to say. There's a reason he got all that money he was asking for, and that's because he's a damn good player and the rest of the world knows that except for a few hyper-sensitive posters on this board. No, he shouldn't have given the Bills a discount for taking a chance on him and no, he wasn't a team cancer. He never requested a trade. He was an idiot for sitting out, but he is the kind of player you keep around. The Bills aren't as poor as some may think...they could have easily afforded his contract demands. And none of this precedent-setting crap either. If this was Donte Whitner pulling this stunt, then ya, him you get rid of asap. But Peters was their most valuable commodity. This was, by far, the dumbest move this team has made in a long time.