atlbillsfan1975

No way they draft another corner anywhere near the top 4 picks. I am guessing you are being a pessimest by your comment. They have Corner, Youboty, McGhee, McKelvin, and Florence. If you tell me they go after one later in the draft i will buy that. And Whitner isn't going anywhere in my opinion. He sounds like a guy that really enjoys Buffalo and wants to make this team a playoff team for years.

I like the idea of haveing Waters too. But would not want to give anything more then a fourth. So, like you pointed out about Pioli, i dont think that would happen. Mix that in with the fact the Bills just got burned by signing a 'big name' LG that was a huge disappointment, leaves me to believe the Bills wont want to give too much either. Rather, sign Simmons for 2 years .Starter for this year. Draft 2 guys, a center then gaurd to develope for a year. Simmons either moves to back up in 2010 or starts if young guys aren't ready. Then you should have 5 quality interior guys. In Simmons, Hangartner, Butler and your two draft picks. Walker (and for now) Peters are your takles. With Chambers and Bell as back ups.

Last year ATL traded back into the First and got Sam Baker from USC. Kid did really well till he got hurt. Two years ago Tony Ugoh got signed by the Colts in the second and has started every game for them. It sounds to me like none of us here have a lot of faith in our FO to find a LT in the draft. I know, Captain Obvious moment. The perfect situation is Peters would play another year under his deal. That allows the Bills to see if Bell is ready to step up. Then at the end of next year either sign Peters (if Bell isn't ready after a year of playing in some games like Peters did) or if Bell is ready then trade Peters. Just getting Peters to do that is the problem.

Ok so you sign Peters to a 5 year 60 million dollar deal. He plays well and goes to a couple more pro bowls. In three years from now two other left tackle signs a contract paying them on average 14 million dollars a year. Are you going to honestly tell me Peters wont want another new deal with two years left on the one we sign him to now? People who dont learn from history have a funny way of haveing it repeat on them. I got laughed out of another post for saying this same thing. People said 'thats not how it goes, once you sign your big deal you play it out.' I say smart people also dont hold out with three years left on a deal.

I know the bills had Simmons in and put him through a workout for the achilles. I am guessing it went well. Was there ever any report on it anywhere? He sounds like the best bet for a starter next year. But they will likely draft atleast two guys in the first 4 rounds. If they only sign one FA interior guy. Then after the draft pick up 'camp guys' from whats left.

'Our Scheme'? If a guy is big and gets penetration and can also keep blockers from getting to LBs then he fits in any scheme. Thats simple football 101. Dlinemen are suppose to hold there position and tie up Oline man so Lbs can fill the gaps. Thats why Lbs typically lead every team in tackles. I think Warren Sapp was the base of the Tampa 2 D. And he had a gut and a half on him.

Every interior Dlinemen has a gut. The Bills need another big presence in the middle to collapse the pocket and eat up two men. If you had two guys like Stroud and then maybe a Raji, the oline starts to run out of men to block DE and LBs. We have had way to many skinny interior lineman that are able to be blocked one on one. Big space eaters have to be accounted for by two Oline men ussualy. Either thru a 'chip' block or a straight up double team. This would make everyone on the D look a helluva a lot better.

Also if the Bills are not really interested in him.And his agent is the one trying to bring buffalo into the picture to drive up the price form Tampa. Dont you think the Tampa GM might call the Bills GM, oh wait thats right he probably won't know what to ask for.

Not suggs, my bad sorry . Thomas to N.E. Little early still . Brain Fart.

He might want a big contract but i doubt anyone is going to give him one. There are too many other guys out there right now. Like one other poster said FA LBs are plentiful. That usually isnt good news for guys looking for a big payday. Of course there are exceptions for 'elite' LBs but Peterson i dont believe is seen as an elite LB. Good but not elite. And mostly because he is now in his 30s. Probably gets a 2-3 year deal. How much and do the Bills have it? Guess the Peters deal effects that a lot. But i wont get into that too many other threads.

Anyone else starting to see that Baltimore is not going to be the defensive juggernaut they have been. First and most importantly they lost Ryan, the D cord behind it for years. Last year they lost Suggs, this year Scott. Now Rolle is gone. I know he is older and not been there for all the great D years in Baltimore. But he did have 3 ints last year and started 10 games for them. Ray isn't playing anywhere near what he was. Heck Leonard started for them last year for awhile. And Leonard is a decent player but not great by any means. At some point this is going to add up. And i bring this up because weaker AFC comp. means one more playoff spot open for the Bills. Your thoughts.

It would also be nice to have two solid Vets surrounding Poz next year. Mitchell is a good player . Not great but good. And Peterson on the other side with Poz in the middle. Damn. That sounds like a very solid bunch. Then in the draft go after Dline help. It amazing how a good Dline makes a linebacker group look even better. Just ask Ray Lewis.

There are still a lot of good LBs out there right now. I wonder if Peterson will last long though. The Bills and other teams look to almost be in a holding pattern right now. Maybe focusing more on the draft, and after that seeing what players they need. I for sure would not mind seeing him in a Bills uni, what was he making for the Seahawks? 30 LB still has a couple good years left.

Metzelars had a knack for making some big catches. I overstated a little. But he had a good career, mostly because he was playing with very good talent around him. I would like Pettigrew a lot. But i think there are mor epressing areas of need. The D front seven and the Oline are much bigger needs. You address them this year. Maybe next year then you draft a TE in the first if you feel you are set at other areas. But if the Bills do draft a TE it better be in the first or second otherwise you are right back where you are now with another Derrick Fine or Schouman. I would see it as a total waiste to draft a TE in the fourth or so. If you go TE then draft on eof the best.

If the Oline comes together. Then i think hell yeah. Plus he is in the third year of his rookie contract. He only has one more left after this year i believe, just a little extra motivation. He is a beast. And will break out this year. Probably get 4 game suspension, knocked down to two games after appeal. So he has to average 86 yds a game for 14 games. I will take the over.

Do we really need a TE. Hear me out for a sec. You have Evans that might be one of the best deep threats in the game. Terrell Owens is great at running after the catch. I think he has lead the league the last few years in yds per catch. Josh Reed has turned into a great third option/ possession type of guy. Metzelars was not a great TE but seemed to always make the T.D catch when we needed it, but how much of that was because people were focusing on Reed and either Lofton or Bebe? To me, two good recievers make an average T.E look really good. Save the pick for Defense front seven. fine had a couple of nice games last year once he came back. Not saying he is the next Jason Whitten or anything, but he will probably look a lot better with Evans, Terrell, and Reed all lined up around him.

I am not disputing his talent. But i am concerned about his desion making. The Bills have shown that if you come to camp and play hard they will rework your deal. Kelsay, Schobel, and Evans this year. Or the Bills make it pretty clear to you beforehand that they are not going to rework you curent deal and then you can play hard and get your payday in FA. Like Clements. Either way showing up and playing hard gets you your money. Either with the Bills or somewhere else. Sitting out with three years left shows just how ignorant you are. They owned him for three years, the Bills had all the leverage. But he and his agent still decided to sit out. Thats poor judgement. And dont tell me about making a statement. Everyone knew way beforehand you were unhappy, and rightfully so. He should get paid like a good starting LT. But he went about it totally the wrong way.

He was not a great Left Tackle last year. Everyones says it was because Dockery. Ok i will buy some of that. But now he want sto be paid one of the biggest contracts in Bills history. You are going to tell me he is worth that? And for you guys who dont know anything about Bell i will remind you he is the same type of player Peters was, a project. And from what people in the orinization are saying he is doing really good. I will take them over any of us who probably havent seen anything. The FO wasn't wrong about Peters talent, and if they feal Bell is able to step up then i will trust them again. 11.5 million is too much for the Bills to spend on any one player. I hope they dont do it. Oh and by the way last year the Falcons jumped up back into late in the first and grabbed Sam Baker as their starting left tackle. And i think they had a pretty damn good year on offense. Baker got hurt near end of season, like Peters. But he played very good while he started.So you guys who say you cant get a probowl left tackle late in the first have 'no clue'. And Indys starting left tackle Tony Ugoh was taken in the second. And i think they have one of the best passing attacks in the game and fewest sacks.

If you traded your 1st and Peters to Philly for their two first round picks. Then i think it would be pretty much a wash. Philly has the 21 and 28 pick in the draft. Also you could maybe get a third out of them as well. You get your Tackle with pick number 21 your DE with pick number 28. In the second you get TE and then with two 3rds you get two more OL.There are plenty of good young tackles in the draft this year. Not to mention we have D Bell who sounds like he is developing into maybe the next Peters, play wise. Peters has shown he always wants to get paid more money. And thats fine so would we all. But what happens in two years from now when another left tackle gets 14 million a year. Are you gonna say he wont want another raise? You know he will. And the Bills will be right back here again.

My friend was T.O.s message therapist here in Atlanta. When he got injured in Philly he flew her and her husband up to Philly so she could work on him. He put them up in his house. They have both said there is a big diference in the guy they know on a personal level and one we see on camera. It has always made me wonder. I have never really carred for him much, but more then one person i know here in Atlanta, that knows him has said 'there is a difference in T.O and Terrell'. For what its worth

I like the moves so far. But Oline needs to be addressed. I think we all agree on that. I think the Bills are waiting some guys out. Just like any other commodity the longer it sits the lower the price goes. so far the Bills have: LT Peters. I think his contract gets worked out. Dont think he will be wearing green next year. LG Maybe Simmons if the medical staff thinks he is ready to play. Sign to a two year deal. Starts this year. back up next. Rather not give up draft picks to K.C. for Waters. C Hangartner. I think he will be vast improvement over Preston/Fowler. Watched Carolina play a lot last year and the line looked damn good. Started 8 games for them. RG Butler. Smart and has developed nicely. If injury bug stays away he will be solid. RT Walker. Under contract for three more years. Very solid. And starts this year and next. Back Ups. Bell. With news that he is stronger and developing good. Might be the right tackle of the future. Haveing Peters and him as your bookends is exciting. Young Athletic tackles for years to come. Chambers is good depth at Tackle and gaurds. Draft a center ,prefer Wood from Louisville in third round if available or maybe Caldwell from Bama. Draft a gaurd in fith round. Best available at that point. What you guys think?

The Owens move is perfect. One year deal allows Johnson to develope some, and play. Hardy gets better and gets playing time when 100% healthy. Parish is an enigma. But could be a great situation type reciever. And with Greer gone and McKelvin probably playing starting CB, Parish maybe works more on becoming your punt returner/kick returner. Not to mention recievers get hurt just like any other position. If, god forbid. Owens gets hurt then its nice to know we atleast have some guys on the squad that might be able to step up.

Potential is a scary word. On one hand it means you have shown you can perform but on the other it means you lack the ability to do so consistantly. He is a fool. Even in my early 20s if someone told me all you have to do is put on a good show over the next three months and you will make 50 million dollars. Any you guys out there wouldnt be able to do that? I am sorry, do you want a guy like that on your team. He played lazy at Bama some times,just listen to Saban, others he was a monster. He was suspended in the Bowl game, which hurt his team and they lost. Not solely because him, but they could not stop Utahs vaunted blitz packages(joke). So what makes us think he is gonna change? If he is that unintelligent to grasp how he is hurting himself, what makes us think he will make good decisions once in the League. No thanks. Pass!

The other arguement you can make is that the D will also benefit. If lik eyou pointed out, the offense clicks. We finally get to watch a consistant pro offense move the ball control the clock and score points, then the D gets rest and we dont have to watch the opposing team go on 70 yd drives in the fourth quarter to seal a victory. This happened in to many games last year.

atlanta aint what it use to be. They pretty much broke up the Buckhead night life. The Ray Ray incident brought a lot of bad elements and eventually the bars got sick of dealing with the crap loitering outside and scarring of customers. There are still pockets/ areas to go out in. but the buckhead hayday is gone.