atlbillsfan1975

Waters to me is the kind of guy you should try to get with a fourth and maybe another player thrown in. But i just dont see K.C doing that deal for him. Haveing said all that yes i would like him. But like you said i aint holding my breathe. I think the Bills are done till the draft. Then they may make some signings after the draft once they see any 'needs' left.

Lossman is a poor mans Mike Vick, as far as talent goes. Vick has a huge powerfull arm, J.P has a big arm that is capable of throwing the ball hard and far. Vick was probably the fastest guy on the field his first couple years, and was very athletic. J.P is quick and can run and also a good athlete. Now the negative. Neither one of them ever learned how to read defenses. How to check down. Or how to put touch on the ball. They either threw it 100 miles an hour or a lame duck. Not saying J.P is ANYTHING at all like Vick off the field. They could not be any different. Watching the two for years, they both seemed very similar in play to me.

Heres my question afcfan. Why are you wasting your vast talents of fortune telling here with us morons? I mean Miss Cleo lost her gig. You should be all over that. Not concerning yourself with what will happen to the Bills and T.O. The fact is no one knows whats gonna happen this year. Just like last year. When on the opening drive Brady went down for the year. And the Dolphins won the AFC east. Or how about the fact that the Cards, i mean the Arizona stinking Cardinals, ended up in the Super Bowl. So yeah maybe some people around here on a Bills website have a little optimism. We like to distract ourselves for a few minutes from our everyday grinds. And yes we like to be blind loyalists. BUT I WILL TAKE THAT OVER A HYPOCRITICAL WINDBAG LIKE YOURSELF ANYDAY. God Bless. And i cant believe i wasted that much time on you good sir.

Dr Tooth. Maybe he was not worth a 'schitt' last year. Thats why he did not play. But he was not drafted to play last year. He was drafted as a 'project'. Like most 7th rounders. I am sure someone here could find the percentage of 7th rounders that last in the league longer then 2 years. The question isn't how was he last year but how has he been developing. By your rational Tom Brady shouldn't have been 'schitt' because he didn't play at all is first season. He was inactive for the first 14 games in 2000 the year he was drafted. But he turned out ok right?

OMG. Really???. Becaus ehe threw some bombs? A broke clock is right twice a day. What about last year when all he had to do against the Jets was run out the clock? He could have fallen down and kept the clock running. Instead he decides to late to scramble. Gets the ball knocked out. And the rest of the story we all know. Sorry that isn't coaching. Thats an idiotic play. Every guy makes mistakes but not ones like that.

Brandon Sutherland out of UGA

Guys J.P stinks. Last year when he was auditioning for another team,he finally proved it to me. He had some of the biggest bonehead plays ever seen. He single handedly lost the Jets game. I mean him no ill will going forward. I was just thinking last night it will be so nice this year not to have to talk about J.P. I cheered for him while he was here, heck i defended the guy for the first three years. But he was god awful. And if you couldn't see that, i am sorry. Good luck to him. I hope he gets paid. The CFL or UFL would work maybe. He has great talent but is a mental midget on the field.

Yeah exactly. You are FUBARD. Until the NFL adopts a system like the NBA for rookies. Less and less teams will want to stay at the number one pick.

You are right. Bell is probably atleast a little smarter then Peters. But Bell needed more time to develope strength. Which it sounds like he is doing. He was very athletic comming out of college like Peters and had good footwork.

Nah you dont want it. Remember back in the day when it was the one reward you got for haveing a horrible year? Atleast you were getting 'the best' player comming out of college next year. Now even then you are screwed.

Donahue was right on point with Mike Williams? And McNally retired in April of 2007. Kuegler has worked with Peters for two seasons. His first probowl year and last year. Yes McNally did play a big part but so has the current regime.

Well players and coaches inside the team think he is turning into a good player. Kyle Williams actually pointed him out in an interview earlier in the month. And be your rational i dont think the Bills have had any gaurds play for them that have pancaked Seymour. So guess he cant be any worse then them.

Mularkey and VanGorder have been excelent here in Atl. VanGorder especially. To do what he did with that talent last year on D was amazing. It was all smoke and mirrors, held together by bubble gum and duct tape. Mularky seems like he might be another guy that is fit to be a Cord not a head coach. but if they Falcons come out again and have a great year, he will most likely get another shot.

This staff developed him into what he is. If you argue that then we can agree to disagree.

What i am syaing is that he could have and should have done it the other way around. I spoke with one NFL scout last year, who btw came from INDY, and was there when they drafated Peyton. He had Ryan graded out as the same as Peyton. Now i did not believe him. But after the first game heck the first throw of Ryans career, i started becoming a believer. Right now the Falcons have two proven pieces for success in the NFL. A starting LT and a great QB. Dolphins have a starting LT and an unknown at QB. What would you rather have going into the next couple of years of your franchise????

Has Skip ever even played any sport at any level? Seriously? The guy has made a living 'stiring the pot'. Just like he did here. I mean think about it. When has he ever broke a story? When have you ever seen his name linked to anything important. He is just a 'shock jock'.

No instead the Dolphins passed on Matt Ryan. Who in his first year looks damn good. Like he could be a franchise QB for years. Then the Falcons traded back up and got a starting LT in Baker. I am so sick of people thinking Parcells is a genius. Fact is he missed the boat on Ryan. Plain and simple. Ask any owner or GM and they would tell you the same thing. Would you rather have a draft like the Falcons did last year or one like the Dolphins did? You still have no clue if Henne is a starter in this league. Where as the Falcons look to have their starting QB and LT for years to come.

Its not what he has done to show me. Its if the Bills coaches think he is ready. These are the same guys who saw it in Peters. I have no clue if he is ready. Nor did any of us know who the heck Peters was when they signed him to Undrafted Free Agency contract in 2005. As far as taking that risk. I am saying it might not be a choice. If Peters' deal can get worked out, then it might be one you are forced into. As far as this season goes Walker did a good job starting for Peters last year, if i remember correctly. My whole point here is that if Peters isn't here for one reaosn or the other. The team may have some options

If they are there at 11 hopefully your phones are lighting up with guys that want to trade up. Then you would be able to fall back and pick up an extra second rounder this year and maybe one next year. What the Bills really need is more Picks. And it is very arguable that at the positions they need players at who exactly is the best. DE very different opinions from talent 'experts' Same with LB once you get past Curry and interior Oline. You could get three need starters. Instead of taking a guy that you dont need. We all think the Bills need to win now. And we all think the Bills need more then one player to accomplish that. So tradeing down would help you accomplish your goals. As Herm said 'you play to win the game'.

So many guys on here are quick to dismiss Bell as a possible starter on next years Oline. However many of you guys are the same ones saying we cant loose Peters. Now i dont want to trade Peters really, but i also am very concerned about another hold out. I think Bell could be ready to play LG or RT. I would say play him at RT this year and move Walker to LT. Walker seemed to do pretty good last year while Peters was missing the first few games. Let Bell play RT this year then move him to LT next year. I guess at the end of the day if the Bills tell me he is ready, then i will take there word on it. They just got done doing the same thing with Peters a few years ago. Maybe just maybe its why they drafted Bell last year. Knowing all along Peters was going to be a problem getting locked up to a new deal. Bell had little playing time in college, he was seen as a very good athlete with very good footwork. Bell just needed to add some more strength and more knowledge of the position. Maybe he has done some of that this past year. Once again the coaches would know this a lot better then us. Your thoughts???

Does he have a contract? He probably would not be there even if he did. Nothing about him screams team player. Or staying in shape. He is sitting on his butt eating Ben and Jerrys and pork rinds. He will only be back once he gets hungry for great Pizza and wings

When i watch Skip i think about what Owens said about Garcia all those years ago.'He is gay', 'no really he is'.

The Bills MUST get the Peters situation resolved before the draft. If they dont then you are drafting blindly. Not knowing if you will or wont have a LT. If he is gone then you could definetly take Oher here. If Peters stays then take Robinson in the second. You would have a very good young line. With your possible replacement right tackle waiting in the wings in Bell.

That is your way of looking at it. But i would argue it was that they had players in place under longer contracts and his was up. Carolina could not pay him when his contract came up. So they had to let him go. Just like what happened to Greer here in Buffalo. Bills couldn't pay three corners starter money. When the Bills drafted McKelvin last year it signaled Greers end was near. Just like in Carolina when they drafted Khalil last year in the second. We can agree to disagree about this. But the season will tell. How well does Hangartner do this year, and the line as a whole. If they improve then i am right. If he turns out to be worse then what the Bills had then you are right. But just saying he is a back up is a very simplistic way of looking at it.

Hangartner was a back up, who got to show his talents. Carolina could not afford to pay him because they have a lot of money tied up on the line. So another team that needs a starter pays him. He produces at a starters level this year. It happens all the time in the NFL guys. Micheal Turner last year is a very good example. Sorry if you cant see how it works. But it does work.