atlbillsfan1975

no way Jose.

Starting day the Oline LT- Walker/Chambers LG-Hangartner C-Max Unger RG- Butler RT- Bell FO been saying Hangartner is the center. A smoke screen. Then they take Unger the best center in the draft in round 2. Push Hangartner over to LG.

So you like being excited in the offseason, as opposed to the regular season? Bacause trading Lynch would only serve that purpose.

Replacing 60% of the oline is not the best thing. However you have to look at it position by positon or player by player. Fowler- Bad Dockery- Was not very good. Getting paid way to much for what he was doing. So what close your eyes and hope he plays better this year? Peters- Wanted to be paid like best LT, when the Bills just saw him have a very average at best season. Royal- had stone hands and was way way overpaid. Sorry but the other thing not many people mention is maybe the Bills like some of the young guys that are already on the team. McKelvin replaces Greer, not Florence Ellis steps up and plays good this year rotating in on De Bell steps up and plays good on Oline. Fine continues to progress this year. He is a move the changes type of TE. But the Bills really dont need more then that with Evans and Owens stretching the field. Now for FA Owens is another target for Trent and a true number 2 wide out for Evans to get open more. Take away the T.O name and look at his numbers we would all be very happy to have gotten him. Florence will be very good in a nickle package. Zone cover 2 is what he excelled at while in SD. More so then playing a press man coverage like he was asked to do in JVille. Hangarnter was technically a back up. But started 8 games last year at center while Khalil went down. Carolina had a great rushing attack and a many of his Oline teammates thought highly of him. McKinney is a very solid depth guy on Oline,that will also help spell any rookie interior guys that are drafted. Rhodes will help carry the load during Marshawns suspension. And also help if either Freddie or Marshawn goes down. He can catch and run the ball effectively. Fitz is a nice back up. God knows he cant do worse then JP did last year. Thomas will be a ST and depth at LB. Then you have the draft Right now you need two players for the defensive front 7 and i would say an Oline man. These should get addressed with the first three picks. All three of those picks should be guys that could step right in and start. Yes they will have some growing pains, but i would not go into full on rebuild mode for Buffalo. The offseason is not even halfway over yet. The draft will help us see what type of season we can expect. But who ever said the Bills need to hit on their first four picks is exactly right.

The Bills kept the two guys worth keeping. Walker and Butler played very solid. Butler hopefully can get past the injuries. Fowler Preston and Dockery were down right terrible. Peters looked very out of shape his first 4-5 games. He had no continuity with Dockery, because he missed all of the off season work. His timming was very bad. And personally i think in his mind he felt like if you are going to pay me 3 million a year i will block like a 3 million a year LT. Now the Bills have quietly made two signings on the Oline. Hangartner played on a very good Carolina Oline. Had to watch them play a few Sundays down here. He was more or less a victim of numbers. Too much good talent in one area. His contract was up and the Panthers could not resign him for starter money. They already had paid starter money to the rest of the line. McKinney seems like a very quality depth guy, that could also help spell the rookie(the Bills take in the draft) at gaurd. Going into last year the Oline was suppose to be our strength. With the center spot being the chink in the armour. Every broadcast the announcer would bring up the fact that the Bills starting line was the biggest in football. Yet they consitently got pushed around. And usually it seemed like the heat came from center over to LT. So i am optimistic this year the changes will lead to something better. And hopefully everyone is signed up early and in camp on time so they can work together and form a consistent unit.

Maybe Coach Reid just saw video of the 2007 season. Seriously though, Peters could be the best LT in football, he has all the tools physically do be that. But mentally, and motivationally speaking i am not sold. But i guess we will all find out. Best case scenario, it works out for both teams. Bills use the extra picks to help build the team into a playoff one. Peters helps protect McNabb for his last few years. Then in 2010 the Bills play the Eagles in the Super Bowl and win by sacking McNabb on thie last play of the game going right over Peters. Ah one can dream.

Henderson and Stroud up the middle would be a very nice combo. He has only missed three games the last two years. last year he missed two games with a sprained knee. The fact that Stroud and him played together in JVille is also a nice side note. They will know each others tendancies. At 30 he still has some good years left. And to use that extra fourth for him. Well then that would make the Peters trade look even better for Blo.Send the fourth and McCargo. Hey he is younger then Henderson, and if Del Rio wants youth here you go. See if Del Rio can motivate McCargo. Here are Hendersons career stats: Year Team G Solo Ast Total Sack 2002 JAC 15 45 9 54 6.5 2003 JAC 16 47 11 58 3.5 2004 JAC 16 63 13 76 6.5 2005 JAC 16 53 17 70 3 2006 JAC 16 38 13 51 3.5 2007 JAC 15 28 10 38 2 2008 JAC 14 35 10 45 3

Yes it could happen. If the two QBs go then the run on OT maybe up to 3 in the top 10, then 2WRs. Then probably a DT and a DE or two. It very well could happen. If it does, god the Bills better take him. Perfect for the Bills. Would be a day one impact guy. Come back later in round one and go Oline. Then in round two go Dline. In the third take another interior Oline guy.

Exactly!

6 years 60 million is a lot of money. But not for a motivated lock down LT. Now the Sixty Million Dollar question is, which Peters will the Eagles get? And for how long?

Nicely done deal it sounds like. I like the incentive laden part. I wish more contracts in sports could be that way. he rushed for over 500 yds and went for over 300yds in recieving. Had a 3.5 avg rushing and 6.2 in recieving. Not to bad for a solid vet.

Umm actually my family worked for the Bills in the 70s and 80s. I have been to three Super Bowls the Bills have been in. So the casual fan i am not. But i refuse to allow the offseason to bring me down. I understand that the Bills are trying to make moves. Now you can look at those moves with pessimism(your way) or optimism (my way) and hope things do turn around. And in the mean time cheer them on. Thats what a real fan does. Not look for every opportunity to tear down his team. Oh and you demand success? Really? You have nothing to do with it at all. You sure you are not a Philly fan? You sound exactly like those type of guys. Love you up till the minute you loose. Then boo the heck out of ya.

Yeah players are one part of it. Coaching is the second part of it.

I think the Bills signed McKinney to be that guy. If Simmons is still around after the draft, and the Bills need him the could sign him then. But i think at this point every team is going to wait till after the draft to sign any FA. You may see a trade or two between now and then. But FA are in a holding pattern.

If this is true then all these people who are defending him are going to have a big piece of humble pie to eat. He will have basically spit in those peoples faces. But i am sure they will spin it, and say it was the Bills fault.

I for one will stay optimistic. Its a much more fun way to go through life. You must enjoy being miserable. Good for you.

You really think he was one of the Top 5 LTs last year? What are you basing that on? And please dont say the Pro Bowl. The Bills did have all the leverage. They traded him. They decided he was not worth what he wanted to get paid. And they decided to get something for him this year instead of watching him hold out again, show up out of shape, play poorly, and then get injured. To me they made the right decision. Oh and in show business you can do some stupid things off the big screen, and end up costing your career, just ask Tom Cruise.

This is not a trade you make. What Parrish is worth is not what you can get for him in a draft pick. he is the best punt returner in the league right now. I would not expect a fith rounder to have that kind of impact anytime soon. Maybe in a few years he could become a very solid starter, but keep Parish and pass on this one. And tell Beeker to go pick a fight with Sean Salisbury. God i miss those split screen fights on ESPN.

I second that emotion. Some of you people here really make me laugh. If the Bills bother you that much then stop rooting for them or get another hobby. Because at the end of the day thats what this is a hobby. A way to distract yourself from everyday life.

So you are saying he played poorly because he was worried about what other players were making? Yeah thats a guy i want on my team. He was still getting paid 3 million dollars. Yes he was underpaid, but that tells you something about a guys character. If he wont try hard because he thinks he isn't making enough money. How about work hard and you will get paid. Part of the reason the Bills let him walk was because of his attitude. Thanks for proveing that point with your statement.

Ok first of all i can make a point about everyone of those guys the Bills "let out the front door'. McGhee never really was that great and then there was the whole Toronto comment Clements was way over paid. San Fran loves over paying for Bills FA. Look up Jonas Jennings. Milloy was the six yard sherriff. He was done in his second year with the Bills. His talent did not match his name. Fletcher was old and did not do very much for Washington. They too like to overpay for talent. Bills are a very financially sound team. They will not over pay for talent. There is your explanation for Peters. You do replace ageing talent with younger talent. Or you replace players that you can not resign or are not team guys, this would be Peters again. Now Oher at 11 would not be a bad pick. But something tells me the Bills are going to go D with the first pick. Then pick up one of the interior Oline guys in the second. If they dont trade for Scheffler then I would not be surprised if they used the second first or second round pick on a TE.

No. You got Walker on the right side who is probably gonna shift over to LT. He is the vetran you speak of. Then maybe Bell plays RT. Draft a LG in round 2. To me you have a very good young line. Bell could develope and replace Walker at LT in a year or two. Then you could or should have drafted a RT. Or if he is not excellent you use a first rounder on a LT after you have seen if Bell lives up to his potential.

Hey Tim would you consider doing a write up on Bell? I mean it would be the perfect time to find out if he really is ready and a viable option to see a lot of time this season. Find out what the coaches/other players think about him. Be another way at looking how the Peters trade will maybe lead to the next unknown ProBowl LT. Either way keep up the great work.

The glass is half empty to you i bet. Hangartner proved himself last year in the NFC South. A very physical confrence. Royal and Dockery both were overpaid and underperformed. Peters wasn't good but could not be avoided. Get over the Toronto thing. One more game you can watch on t.v. Or make the drive to Toronto if you really wanted to go.