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Nicely done deal it sounds like. I like the incentive laden part. I wish more contracts in sports could be that way. he rushed for over 500 yds and went for over 300yds in recieving. Had a 3.5 avg rushing and 6.2 in recieving. Not to bad for a solid vet.

Umm actually my family worked for the Bills in the 70s and 80s. I have been to three Super Bowls the Bills have been in. So the casual fan i am not. But i refuse to allow the offseason to bring me down. I understand that the Bills are trying to make moves. Now you can look at those moves with pessimism(your way) or optimism (my way) and hope things do turn around. And in the mean time cheer them on. Thats what a real fan does. Not look for every opportunity to tear down his team. Oh and you demand success? Really? You have nothing to do with it at all. You sure you are not a Philly fan? You sound exactly like those type of guys. Love you up till the minute you loose. Then boo the heck out of ya.

Yeah players are one part of it. Coaching is the second part of it.

I think the Bills signed McKinney to be that guy. If Simmons is still around after the draft, and the Bills need him the could sign him then. But i think at this point every team is going to wait till after the draft to sign any FA. You may see a trade or two between now and then. But FA are in a holding pattern.

If this is true then all these people who are defending him are going to have a big piece of humble pie to eat. He will have basically spit in those peoples faces. But i am sure they will spin it, and say it was the Bills fault.

I for one will stay optimistic. Its a much more fun way to go through life. You must enjoy being miserable. Good for you.

You really think he was one of the Top 5 LTs last year? What are you basing that on? And please dont say the Pro Bowl. The Bills did have all the leverage. They traded him. They decided he was not worth what he wanted to get paid. And they decided to get something for him this year instead of watching him hold out again, show up out of shape, play poorly, and then get injured. To me they made the right decision. Oh and in show business you can do some stupid things off the big screen, and end up costing your career, just ask Tom Cruise.

This is not a trade you make. What Parrish is worth is not what you can get for him in a draft pick. he is the best punt returner in the league right now. I would not expect a fith rounder to have that kind of impact anytime soon. Maybe in a few years he could become a very solid starter, but keep Parish and pass on this one. And tell Beeker to go pick a fight with Sean Salisbury. God i miss those split screen fights on ESPN.

I second that emotion. Some of you people here really make me laugh. If the Bills bother you that much then stop rooting for them or get another hobby. Because at the end of the day thats what this is a hobby. A way to distract yourself from everyday life.

So you are saying he played poorly because he was worried about what other players were making? Yeah thats a guy i want on my team. He was still getting paid 3 million dollars. Yes he was underpaid, but that tells you something about a guys character. If he wont try hard because he thinks he isn't making enough money. How about work hard and you will get paid. Part of the reason the Bills let him walk was because of his attitude. Thanks for proveing that point with your statement.

Ok first of all i can make a point about everyone of those guys the Bills "let out the front door'. McGhee never really was that great and then there was the whole Toronto comment Clements was way over paid. San Fran loves over paying for Bills FA. Look up Jonas Jennings. Milloy was the six yard sherriff. He was done in his second year with the Bills. His talent did not match his name. Fletcher was old and did not do very much for Washington. They too like to overpay for talent. Bills are a very financially sound team. They will not over pay for talent. There is your explanation for Peters. You do replace ageing talent with younger talent. Or you replace players that you can not resign or are not team guys, this would be Peters again. Now Oher at 11 would not be a bad pick. But something tells me the Bills are going to go D with the first pick. Then pick up one of the interior Oline guys in the second. If they dont trade for Scheffler then I would not be surprised if they used the second first or second round pick on a TE.

No. You got Walker on the right side who is probably gonna shift over to LT. He is the vetran you speak of. Then maybe Bell plays RT. Draft a LG in round 2. To me you have a very good young line. Bell could develope and replace Walker at LT in a year or two. Then you could or should have drafted a RT. Or if he is not excellent you use a first rounder on a LT after you have seen if Bell lives up to his potential.

Hey Tim would you consider doing a write up on Bell? I mean it would be the perfect time to find out if he really is ready and a viable option to see a lot of time this season. Find out what the coaches/other players think about him. Be another way at looking how the Peters trade will maybe lead to the next unknown ProBowl LT. Either way keep up the great work.

The glass is half empty to you i bet. Hangartner proved himself last year in the NFC South. A very physical confrence. Royal and Dockery both were overpaid and underperformed. Peters wasn't good but could not be avoided. Get over the Toronto thing. One more game you can watch on t.v. Or make the drive to Toronto if you really wanted to go.

He has very good points, one which many of us on here have been saying all off season. Now the bills just need the 11th pick to pan out.

My thought was you then leave yourself the option of being able to go Oline with two picks and D front seven with 2 picks. Your fourths go to Denver. And come back rest of draft and take best guy available. Best case would be trade one of the fourths and a fith. I would rather trade two fourths though for a guy that has proven he can play, albeit he has been hurt a little too often. But the injuries is the reason you get him for the fourths and not a second rounder.

umm the Bills had the biggest olin ein the league last year. How did that work out for us?

Just a question, but now that you have two fourth rounders, would you trade them for Scheffler? Or one of your extra fourths and your fith?

I dont know about the does not want to be here. He wants to be anywhere they will show him the money. And good for him, we all would. He was good to average, and probably a lot of that had to do with him sitting out last year the entire preseason. Like i said better this then to see a repeat.

Good point. If this was a business (which it is really) then i would say the Bills got a very good return on their investment. And as people are saying the Bills were 7-9 the last two years with Peters at LT. The Bills watched how the line played good last year w/o Peters in there. The Bills also are pretty high on Bell. Not saying he is your starting LT next year, but he will be put on the spot to perform at RT or LG. The Bills will now definetly take two lineman with there first four picks. Then D front seven with the other two. Heck this also gives the Bills time to wheel and deal the 11th to any of those teams that want a qb, if Sanchez or Stafford are still there for some reason.

With Peters the bills went 7-9 the last two seasons. Sorry but if you know line play and watched him last year, he was good but not great. I wish the Bills could have signed him to a fair deal, but they could not agree. Better this way then watching a repeat of last season.

Tim any idea what the conditional pick next year hinges on? I wanted a first and a third this year too. But if next years pick turns out to be a third rounder, then would not be a bad deal.

I hear ya about the age fact. You could do a 4 year 10 million dollar deal with 6 gauranteed. pay him 3 and 3 then drop down to 2.5 and 1.5. That way if he looses his talent you can cut him the last two years.

They are going to lock Freddie up. His agent should be a little more patient. i think this is the wrong way to go about things. Agents like this guy are morons. First thing you should do in negotiations, is know who you are negotiating with. Bills pay guys they need and do a good job(please dont turn this into a you know who thread). The Bills would have locked him up to a 4 yr 10 mil a season deal. All this does is draw lines in the sand. Stupid!! Haveing said all that i would be surprised if before workouts start he doesn't have a deal. And everyone will be kissy kissy.