atlbillsfan1975

As a Bills fan number 1 and a Falcons fan 2, i love this for the Falcons. They need a vetran presence in the locker room. They just let Brooking and Malloy walk (rightfully so), and last year cut Crumpler and Dunn. Gonzo can definetly still play, and would be exactly what the Falcons were missing last year on offense. At 33 he probably has atleast another 2-3 years left. I also like th emove for the bills because it takes one more team off the board for him. Do you guys really think the Pats go for him? They never use the TE that much, and they do have Watson still right? I think NE goes heavy D in the draft. They need help all over the place in the Defensive backfield, also another LB.

Personally i dont believe Donte is a bust. Not yet atleast. And with news he is going to switch to FS this year, i hope it helps his level of play. He and the rest of the secondary could use a pass rush. Also the other Safety taken in the first round of that class Micheal Huff is in danger of being cut by Oakland. So we needed a safety and i think we give him this year to show what he has. Also if the Bills get a better pass rush, then the entire defensive backfield looks better.

If you cant draw the conclusion to what the Bills philosophy is for signing players to contract extensions, then you might be as misguided as Peters. The Bills have proven they will pay talented players that they need and have a good attitude. I remember last year after being traded Stroud joked about getting a contract extension. He also said the Bills wanted to see him play first. After playing one year, and being a good team guy he got a nice contract extension. Evans last year also made it known that he wanted to get a deal done before the end of the year. He showed up to everything and went out and played hard. He got a new contract. He and Stroud both have the talent and attitude the Bills want on the team. Peters has made it clear he wants a new deal. Now he has the talent, but he does not have the positive attitude. He went about his business the total other way. And here we sit today. Peters has no deal. He and the Bills are in a pissing contest now. And to be quit honest, the Bills have him by the you know what. I would personally send a video of the first few games last year when he did not play. And the second Pats game when he did not play (and Jackson rushed for 120+ yds). Tell Parker and Peters we did ok with out you. You are under contract we own the rights for you to play in the NFL for two years. You can sit at home and collect dust, and people will slowly forget about you. Point out the fact that Gandy just Started at LT for Arizona, who was in the Super Bowl. Point out that there are ways to help a LT with TE and RBs. The season and the game will go on with out Peters. Or you can come in and sign a salary of 9 million a year. With bonuses that could pay you up to 11 million a year. Those bonuses will be based on attendance to all mandatory workouts, games played, and both team and personal goals...ie playoffs and/or probowls. This should keep everyone happy. Peters would control his own paycheck, by showing up and playing at a high level. And the bills would know they are not going to have to pay a guy a big salary then watch him turn into a non performer. This would be my approach if i could not trade him for a first and a third, like being reported.

What Roscoe is worth to the Bills and what he can fetch in draft picks doesn't equal up. Parish is a very good returner. If he is not there then you have to put McKelvin back there more. This could hurt his growth as a corner, not to mention expose him to injuries and fatigue. Keep him and atleast the Sts should perform well again for another year. Also if Reed gets hurt he can be used in the slot. Hardy wont be ready, Johnson showed promise, but needs to prove he can do it more often. I would keep Parish atleast for one more season. Not a bad insurance policy and a good ST.

I think you are right about most positions. But running back is a pretty easy position to learn a new teams terms. Look at how many rookies are able to come in and have solid seasons, compared to other positions. And thats going form college to pro. A vetran back would be able to pick everything up and be ready to go in a few weeks. Plus would not cost the team as much. A Dunn is going to cost some money and will probably want a two or three year deal.

If i were the Bills i would not make a move at all. Instead wait till training camp cuts and pick up best rb that gets cut. Will get him for the right price and will be ready to play. Yes he will have a shorter time learning the plays. But a Vet will be able to make an easy transition.

I do not know what kind of 'scene' there is at The House of Blues in Ohio. But i wll tell you being in any bar or venue where alcohol is served at 3 a.m is not a good place to be. Tony Dungy use to tell his players if she says no at 11 she will say no at 3. So might as well take it to the house. Now i am paraphrasing, but its a good leason for these guys. This arrest has nothing to do with race. When certain people black and white get over it. Our country will truly be united.

Yes it is. From the stand point that the Bills don't or can't pay him what he wants. So then yes i would deal him for a first and third. Move on, get a young good LT and LG in the first two rounds. Bills have some vets that can work in with the rooks and you should have a very good Oline for years to come if the scouting dept did their homework, and the Bills make the right picks. You would still be able to address all your other areas of needs with your other first second and third round picks.

I am not sure what that means. But i can tell you Barack would never put himself in that position. A he would not associate with people that would put him inthat scenario. B he has enough intelligence to understand what he could loose by doing so. Oh and i am not a Barack man by any means. But intelligence and stupidty transcend color. When some people decide to let the history be history, then all racism can stop. By both black and white. And yes it is that simple, and yes it is that hard.

Exactly right about being respectful to the police. I was told a long time ago, when the Police show up you shut up and me as respectful as possible. Because right then and right there they have all the power. Not saying the are always right but at that moment they are. Talking and trying to be a 'tough guy' will only land you in the back seat of a police car. Oh and as far as the whole 'he is black thing'. When if ever is that going to stop? Did the President get elected because he is black??? Stop with the race card it is 2009 and we have a black president. Maybe just maybe Whitner was doing something stupid. We all have. And when the police showed up, some of us did what they told us to do and went home. Some of us did not and we went to jail.

Jauron is not a moron guys. I will agree he has made some bonehead mistakes during games. His management of the clock was very poor last year. However he is a Yale grad and older then a few of us put together. He wants Peters to be back. He knows his team is better off with a motivated happy Peters. He does not have a lot of control over if/when Peters does show up. Or if a new deal gets put in place. Most coaches will say things exactly like this. Eventually push will come to shove. And if Peters doesn't show, then Jauron will say 'we are disappointed, but we have to move on, we got guys here that are going to have to step up. All I (Jauron ) can do is coach the guys that want to be here and are here.' Right now is not the time to get into a pissing contest. He knows that unless Peters gets a new deal, he isn't going to show up to any workouts. He knows that Peters will either be traded, or have a new deal in the next few weeks. I just don't see the Bills letting this linger on. Look at the way they delt with Crowell last year. Peters has tipped his hand at what he will do this year.The Bills FO isn't stupid. I just dont see them letting history repeat itself.

no it wont effect the draft. Bills needed oline help no matter who was running the ball. The only thing that will probably happen now is, the Bills will wait till some cuts happen during preseason. This will let them get the best back available, that is most ready to play. And probably sign him to a one year deal for league min for his time in the league. He will provide good depth once Lynch gets back and will help carry the load in the first 2-3 games.

June is gone. Signed with the Texans. LBs are like RB to me. Either you are great. Like Curry or are on the next level. Bills could pick up a very good LB in the third to fourth round. Also how is Bowlen doing? The kid from Iowa State that was drafted last year. Any news on his recovering/rehab?

June is gone. Signed with the Texans. LBs are like RB to me. Eithe ryou are great. Like Curry or are on the next level.

True was an exageration. But for what he gets paid and what he contributes is very important. Any coach will tell you that all three phases of the game matter. Heck its the only reason the Bills won some of those games during the past 7-9 seasons. April is awesome, but he needs talent too. Parish is one of the best punt returners if not the best in the game. Do you argue that?

Guys you both have very valid points. Which is exactly why the Peters thing is so hard to get your hands around. I will say that technically the Bills got Peters, more so then he has them. By that i mean, Peters doesn't get one Penny if he sits out. Not one. Yes the Bills will probably see a loss of production at LT with who ever they put in there. But they will still play the games, and it is worth pointing out that Gandy just played LT for Zona last year. You could scheme around the fact that you have an average LT (Walker)or a rookie with a learning curve. Put a TE on that side as help. Or have RB stay in on obvious passing downs. I guess i agree somewhat we both of you. Except the Bills can play hard ball and Peters can stay home and not make a penny. Oh and yes he is getting underpaid, but in todays market place how many would not take a 4.5 million or 8.5 million dollar paycheck. If someone handed you millions of dollars, which is what Peters has recieved so far, i bet you could make it last the rest of your life and your kids life. A performance based contract is exactly what he needs wherever he ends up. A base of 8 million with bonuses of games played, off season attendence, offensive production, playoffs, probowls, and super bowls. The yearly value could get to 11 a year. Everyone would be happy then, even the Bills.

But the GM questioned whether it would be a prudent investment to give Peters the money he seeks because of perceived dedication issues." Great the word is out. Joking. But seriously. Other GMs are watching this and wondering the same thing a lot of us are. If the Bills do just pay Peters, whats to think he will live up to the contract. I am right with the other poster who says any deal with Peters will have to contain very heavy fines for missing workouts and practice. Also comming in out of shape, or to heavy.

A. I dont think you can trade Parish, for what he is worth. I would keep him. Great kick returner. Gets you easily another 10 yds over an average kick returner. B. The trade Peters philosophy, is not one based on talent. I wont argue he has awesome talent. But he has very questionable decision making. I would not want to trade Peters if he had not held out last year and had gone about his business like Stroud and Evans. As being discussed this is how some other GMs are looking at Peters as well. 11.5 million dollar talent with a 5 dollar head. And for you guys who say just pay him, that is not really looking into the whole situation. Are you 100% positive he will live up to his contract? He will produce over the period of said contract at a high level? I am not. He showed last year how he didn't stay in shape while he was holding out. He came in and was bad the first 3-4 games then was injured for the end of the season. If in any other business, management gave a raise to a guy like that we would be calling them crazy. Not to mention setting a very bad precedent.

Astro you do great work. But i dont see the Bills taking a TE in round one or two. Right now the Bills have very little Olineman signed. I believe they will draft Robinson(og) in round two then come back in round four or five and take another interior guy. On the other hand the Bills will probably give Fine a full year to prove he can stay healthy and be productive. He definetly isn't a long yardage threat, but he seems to have good hands and can catch the ball underneath. Bills have Owens and Evans to stretch the field. Fine should be able to rack up some decent numbers against LBs who will be trying to cover him. While the safeties/nickle backs will be focusing on Reed or Jackson. But all the recieving power is useless if the Bills don't get some quality guys blocking up front, early in the draft.

Kelsay is overpaid. I don't think anyone can argue that. I dont blame Kelsay. But this serves as a great leason in why you can not over pay for talent. It is prohibiting you from maybe makeing the Peters deal. But then again paying Peters 11.5 a year could stop you from paying another talented young guy in a few years. What does happen to te Bills if they were to cut Kelsay at some point? Is there a window where the hit is less or more?

He could go either way. But i highly doubt the Bills dont draft an interior guy in the first three rounds. heck they might take one in the second if he is best player on board for a need position. Then McKinnie is a guy that can help in rotation with the rook and also provide depth for Butler.

we have good but not great LBs. Plus LBs are mostly only as good as the line they play behind. They are just like runningbacks. If the guys are upfront arent eating up olineman, then Lbs are screwed. Just ask Ray Ray.

If the Bills did somehow end up with another later first then i would go after him. From talking to a good friend of mine who is a big Bama fan. He said the only guy Andre Smith had trouble with all year was Ayers. But i am a little skeptical of a one year wonder guy. And the fact he had only 3 sacks.

Looks like a very nice move for depth. Tips the hand more so to me that the Bills are not going to go after Simmons or Waters. Instead draft an interior guy pretty high up, that could start, and rotate some with McKinnie.

Crowell was a decent player on a crappy defense in 2007. Guess what he was going to make a lot of tackles, because the Dline was a seive. He was a decent player, and will keep my eye on him when he plays the Falcons. But the timming of it all was pretty bad on his part. He knew he had this problem late in the 07 season and decided to wait till right before the season for the surgery. Is that really the kind of guy you want on your team??? I don't. Means your either stupid or careless. Not exactly the guys you want as leaders.