atlbillsfan1975

I have been blessed to have grown up with family who worked for the Bills in the 70's and 80's. And to have a father who owned Package stores. I got to watch the Bills vs Falcons in 1983 in Fulton County Stadium in the Braves dugout. I was 8 years old. And was out on the field before the game watching the players warm up. After the game got to go into the lockerroom. My father told me never repeat anything you hear th eplayers say. I knew it was 'bad words', my father cussed like a sailor himself. The players however took it to a whole other level. I remember asking my dad, they all know each others moms? Very cool experience. I also got to go to the 1985 Super Bowl and watch the game from club level. Met George Wendt from Cheers. The 1992 and 1993 season SB against the Cowgirls. Countless concerts etc. Like i said, very fortunate childhood. And trying to get the thread back on course.

Here is what i do not understand. It has been discussed on here before that the third round was somehow left out of the 'slotting' equation. By this i mean the 1-2 and then the 4-7 rounds had very defined perameters for how draftees should be compensated. WTF do you skip over the third? I know someone here will have a theory. I would love to hear it. I do not believe with the countless attorneys both sides had this was a mistake. Maybe i am saying it or have understood it in correctly. So please shed some light on it for me. As it stands today the CBA seemed to create an issue when it should not have. Who possible could have benefitted from this?

Maybe not surgery, but medication? Sometimes you can take something that can help correct an issue. This is pure speculation on my part. You got to think there are very few areas of the body that you do not play if they are not 100%. Your brain and heart being two obvious ones. Sure you can play with a sprained ankle or a broken finger. If he has been cleared there has got to be good reason.

No, i do not want Plax or any other wr at this point. Think Gailey has taken the approach that he will find/coach his #2 wr from the group he has. At least for this season. Plax will be on some team this year. No doubt. Good point about Whaley, i didn't think about that connection.

SJF- i think NoSaint hit the nail on the head about TO. I hope he gets serious help. I am afraid he has cried for help at least once maybe twice with attempted suicide. Anyone going through that needs help and prayers. Plax reminds me of Vick. He made a mistake, was punished, and now is trying to move forward. I get what you are saying SJF about having to change. And as NoSaint points out maybe he has not. Depending on our ages(SJF) you seem like a guy over 30. Nosaint you do to, we have all had some one in our life we hope 'gets it'. Why? Because we love them and know their is good in them. I know Plax has good in him, he did some stupid things. You hope for his sake and his families he finally 'gets it'. He may be getting older as a pro athlete, but he is a very young man. If he could turn his life around and career, he would be an example for others. Either way enjoy the conversation with you guys.

I am surprised to see you post this. you usually are the voice of reason. Now i am not argueing for Plax to be a Bill. I personally think the Bills have so much competition at WR right now, if they bring anyone else in they will need to higher another coach. But you do seem to me like a wise man. One who has heard the saying ' he won't change, until he has hit bottom'. Maybe Plax hit bottom. prison, i am sure, can humble the strongest person. maybe prison did what it was designed to do, for Plax. Who knows, time will tell. But i want to believe people can change for the better. I think we all do, right?

How about the fact that 3 out of 13 played for the Bills at some point. Thats kinda crazy.

So you like telling people they are stupid? That is a big sign of insecurity. Good luck with that. I bet you are the smartest guy in the room everytime? It is a fan board, lighten up. Grammer Police would arrest almost every person on here, at on epoint or the other. My point was, IF a player is not resigned it will probably be because of financial reasons. And those people who stated they did not vote for a player may think that way. I DO trust Buddy and the F.O. Besides Fitz last year, they usually do not resign guys mid season. Calling people 'dull' is ignorant and arrogant on your part.

I do not think that is accurate on your part. The financial aspect plays alot on peoples mind. Especially when your talking about a unit. I run a small business and there are many times i woul dlike to be able to give an employee a raise, but can not due to budgets. Your thinking kind of says just pay a guy what he wants because we drafted him and he has been a good player. That sounds kind of dull to me. And your comment about it being super cheap in 5 years is exactly what he will say in 3 years. thus wanting a new deal. So honestly that is a dull arguement.

Give me that type of highlight any day. From the narration to the music. So much better then this hip hop everyone has now on their highlight reels.

That and maybe finally the Bills do? Plus some good luck? Glenn could be the steal of the draft. He could honestly be a pro bowler in a year or two. Think he needs some work with the coaches and will have an adjustment period. He has all the tools, and i believe he will be motivated to show he should have gone in the first, because he IS a LT.

I get what your saying. I remember people who watched football back then first telling me he was not a great QB. This was in my teens. He was a name i knew and knew the story behind his SB. But had no clue about his career. I recently watched The Namath story on HBO, it was great. The guy had some very good season with the Jets. He however had horrible knees. Not a good thing for a football player, the rules were not the same back then as they are today. Many Qbs took a beating. Personally i like Namath, the HBO show showed him as a very likable guy. He had his troubles, but he was a guy who stood by what he believed in. He even attempted to take on the NFL over his ownership in a club. Unfortunatly most people under 30 who love football will only think of that unfortunate Monday Night game when you bring up Namath.

How can you screw up Fitzpatrick? I mean Fitzpatrick, come on man.

He is in the HOF because of his charisma. He helped put the NFL on the map. He was the first real 'superstar' in the NFL, maybe all of sports. His personality is why he is in the HOF. He was as beloved a sports figure as you will ever find. The guy was as big as the Beatles for a minute, while the Beatles were the Beatles. It was a culmination of a lot of things. But to even mention Namath as a great QB is playing revisionist history. He was very good for a couple seasons and Great for one game. Just so happened the one game was the SB and he called the victory.

Ray Ray? Really? Why because of the shooting after the SB in 99? He didn't do it. He ended up helping the authorities. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time. And subsequently has been a model citizan and player. If you asked every coach in the NFL, they would all want Ray Lewis on their team. Granted his skills are diminishing but the guy is a leader. He takes interest in the rookies and likes watching them grow and develope.

I hear ya on the percentages. But maybe some guys want to know at what price?

When some famous 'cool' guy did it by mistake. Thus a bunch of people who can not think fo rthemselves followed suite. basically how every dumb trend gets started

Levitre is a solid gaurd. I do not put him on the same level as Grubbs or Nicks, personally. But he will get paid good money. 5 years 23 mil with half gauranteed would be fair. He has been versatile from a health stand point. He is a good interior lineman and that contract would reflect such. Byrd will command a little more if he has another solid year. he was involved in 6 turnovers last season. 3 int 3 forced fumbles. This plus his 2009 9 int year, will have some teams wanting to bid for his services if he hits the open market. Bills should try to extend these two during the season.

I have been thinking this for like 3 years now. But somehow they keep chugging along. It really is a testament to them. Until Brady slows down, i do not think they will. And trust me i do not like Brady at all. To me he is the least 'football' guy there is playing in the NFL. But the guy is a great talent

If he does, i doubt they will be able to re-sign him. They already have a ton of money invested in D-line. Byrd, Levitre are the most important. Urbik would be nice, and if his salary matches his play average to solid, then yes resign him. The rest are crap shoots. Its all about what they and their agents think they are worth vs what Buffalo does/can afford.

Just 4 years ago KC only had 10. Wow i did not realize that. 4-5 sack avg a game would be huge. I know there is a stat somewhere about sacks and corelation to drives ending. I think you get roughly on avg around 8 possesions a game.

Why you think it is Bull. He came into TENN and turned their year around. Starting with us a few years ago. The guy is a winner and is liked by his teammates, from what i have heard. My point is, Thigpen has not looked good at all as a Bill. He had one year under Gailey in KC, other then that, what can you say about the guy? IF Young can learn the playbook, he has way more potential then Thigpen, way more. And it is not even Potential, the guy has won in this league multiple years. Can we say that about Thigpen?

Even ini the second one, the Giants Dline was all over him. And for those who bring up the point about other teams not being able to beat NE, i say this- IF, and big IF, Buffalo wins both against NE, i can not wait to see what they do to the rest of the league. NE is the model for what the NFL wants- pass happy teams. Buffalo is trying to counter that.

It is possible. Maybe find a college that would let them use a practice field(s)/facilities. Not sure how to look at that one. On one hand, Jet Lag/time change comes into play. On the other you keep the guys away from their families for a week? Pro's and Con's?

They have an entire year to look at. Fitz played in Gailey's system last year. So if he starts out good it is not because teams didn't have film on him. That is just silly to say