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It seems like Trent has been forming more of a bond with Fine so far in OTA's.

Oher went at #23. But if they really wanted him, or an OT, they could have taken him at 11th overall.

Yes. As I said, it's probably the same situation as last year with Bryant Johnson, who eschewed a 3-year deal with the Bills so that he could "showcase" himself with the 49'ers. TO is the first, and likely only, FA the Bills have ever signed to a 1-year deal. And PT is no TO. He's not even in the same area code.

That clinches it. You're a little lacking between the ears, to put it kindly.

Awesome! Great job, Russ.

Because Orchard Park needed some drama, seeing as how TO won't be able to rent a house at Deer Run.

Doubtful at best. But if Peters showed the way for Vince Wilfork to get himself out of NE, bully for Brandon.

Actually, it would have been more refreshing to hear him say "well, the Bills were offering me a 3-year deal for $1.5M a season and I think I'm better than that, so I'll take Chicago's 1-year $1M deal and try to his the open market next year, when hopefully there is no cap, and that some team overspends on me." Sounds like Pisa doesn't want any expectations placed on him. I'm glad the Bills found out the easy way.

BB Fan, can you please just post an apology for making a seriously bad error in reading comprehension ("Wood and Levitre being rotated in [with the starting unit]) and not having the facts (McKinney wasn't with the Bills last year), so that this thread can finally die?

rjcoles wasn't trying to claim that you said it. He was editorializing. But he was still wrong because none of the extras were hired.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/25/...orakpo-workout/ Wait, wasn't Maybin's performance in OTA's supposed to have also been described as "brutal" by an unnamed source? How many times do you hear "brutal" being used? Methinks that Maybin report was bogus and indicative of the usual stellar reporting by PFT.

Forget him. He won't be traded this year, much less to an AFC East team.

BTW, this was from BillsDaily.com: So much for that rumor.

It doesn't matter who gave him the 3-year $9M contract, just as long as he got it.

Just because you are named the starter, it doesn't mean you don't still have to fight for your job. Say he's a backup this year, will he be content that he competed and lost, but is still making $1M, and has no chance of even making what the Bills offered him, next year?

What he accomplished last season was doing enough to get him a 3-year $9M contract from the Lions this off-season. Although I don't know what he was offered by the Bills, so he may have lost money on the deal.

Jones is at best on the hook for maybe several months of interest payments on the cost overruns. The advertisement, rent, luxury box, PSL, and ticket revenue will easily cover it (where are naming rights fees, though?). Erie County can't afford even a fraction of the $325M that Jones got from Arlington, and the G-3 fund is dead. And $4000 just for a PSL is a king's ransom in Buffalo. This isn't NYC, you know. A new stadium would be nice, but would strain an already-strained population.

Simple is right. Virtually every discussion about James Hardy has you whipping out the "he pulled a gun on his dad" line. Where was there even an investigation of it, much less an arrest, charge, conviction, etc? There was only an elderly lady making that claim and nothing more, yet you took it as gospel. Yet here, simply because charges were dropped against Marshall, it's a non-issue. No surprise there! And again, the Commish doesn't have to go by what the law decides, as has been your and others' reason as to why Goodell had a sit-down with Lynch after getting a traffic ticket. More poor research on your part. I assume you're referring to this article: http://www.buffalonews.com/cityregion/buff...ory/368141.html Also from that article, seeing as how you like to believe whatever is convenient for you: He was arrested three times, but had the resisting arrest and aggravated assault charges dropped, even though he was maced (I guess that never happened either ). And if a gun charge is so serious to Goodell, why no suspension after the gun in the passenger cabin? Or after getting arrested for assault? I said traffic ticket, i.e. moving violations, not a speeding ticket. IOW, he didn't get nailed with a criminal charge. Because there was ZERO evidence he was impaired or knew he hit her. And the official I quoted above (from a newspaper article) didn't seem to think that it was hit and run. So why should you? You "like how he runs" and he's allegedly a player on your favorite team. Yet you seem to think he deserves a harsher penalty than another player got for worse infractions. Curious. Not f**king knowing hasn't stopped you from offering your opinion on other stuff, man. Go ahead, tell me WHY Goodell didn't say "Lynch will get a 3 game suspension, but if he stays out of trouble and gets counselling, will only have to serve 1?" Come on Mr. WEO, you know the f**king answer. Oh, you were "mocking the fawning." Who the f**k are you to mock anything, pally? Are you a scout? Have you ever seen him play? Unlike Tulane, Penn State games ARE on TV quite often. This is a classic! Your best response.

Yes it is really that hard to believe. Just because you're named the starter it doesn't mean you can rest on your laurels and stop competing. If that's what it signals to PT, then as I said, I'm glad the Bills didn't sign him. You don't see the high-priced FA's joining their teams to compete for their jobs, do you?

This is likely the same situation as what happened with Bryant Johnson last year. The Bills probably offered a deal longer than 1-year (likely 3) for an average salary more than what he ended up accepting (say $1.5M a year, versus the $1M he'll make with the Bears), but below what he felt he deserved. But the player took the 1-year deal in order to "showcase" himself for a year and then hit the jackpot on the market the following year. Now it worked for Johnson, mostly because the Lions are, well, the Lions, and every team is looking for WR help. But Tinoisamoa is a cover-2 LB'er, in a league that is moving-away from that scheme. If he doesn't play lights-out and get the Bears to re-sign him, his NFL career is basically over. Time will tell if he made the right move.

Again Deano, quite a few people are willing to believe the reports that Hardy pulled a gun on his dad or that Lynch had pot in his car, based on either the claims of a senior citizen (Hardy's case) or a police report (Lynch's case), not to mention that Lynch "got away" with DUI hit-and-run despite getting a traffic ticket due to the abject lack of evidence to the contrary. And Marshall has a history of this, so it's not that far-fetched to believe it. I'm sure that Bowlen had a hand in the charges getting dropped, much less he was probably involved in Marshall getting his 0.11 BAC charge dropped from a DUI to a DWAI. As for hitting a woman if she hits you, the majority of people will tell you that it shouldn't be done. And for a league that purports to portray a clean image, a star player slapping-around his fiancee is bad pub. Even moreso when the Commish decides that it doesn't merit further suspension, thereby minimizing it. And I don't see a reason to fabricate the police report in this case, while I do see a reason to fabricate the pot allegation against Lynch (i.e. to justify searching the car).

So Marshall's fiancee hitting him makes him hitting her back all right Deano? I don't think that's what you want to be saying. There is a difference between hitting someone and self-defense, and the report never said the man (Marshall) was defending himself. Perhaps it was a case of "arguing while black" and/or the cop had to fill his quota of arrests, but that's far less likely than the cops making up that they smelled and then saw pot in Lynch's car, but never bothered to retrieve the evidence, much less charge him for it. And the hilarious thing is Mr. WEO has blasted Hardy for hitting his girlfriend, in what was probably the same type of incident. And as has been stated by several here, the Commish doesn't need to go by what the law says. Apparently Lynch's traffic ticket was enough to merit a sit-down, and used as a prior incident which led him to suspend Lynch after being involved in another, different incident. But Tank Johnson having a gun in his car wasn't enough to even trigger a sit-down, much less a suspension, and a repeat domestic violence charge wasn't enough to get Marshall suspended again. Oh and again for the inconsistency that defines our resident troll "Bills fan," Mr. WEO has mentioned on several occasions that Hardy is a thug for pulling a gun on his dad, when it was never pursued.

After reading that, I'm glad the Bills didn't waste money on him. This guy would rather compete and potentially end-up a backup than being given the starter's job and continuing to earn the start job? Or that he feels bad that another guy may have been named the starter (not true at all) and he doesn't want to hurt his feelings?

That's impossible. He's still in the muck where he always was.

Oh, so you believe the report that Marshall was kicking and punching his woman, but have no problem with Goodell saying that he won't suspend him again over this incident because, hey, he has another case pending against him? Yet Lynch (whose running you love, and we've heard you say it so many times) deserves his 3 game suspension because of a traffic ticket, wholly unsubstantiated pot allegations, and an illegal gun locked in a box in the trunk of his car? LOL! Just because you're unintelligent, it doesn't make things you read unintelligible (well, that is, at least not to others). Case in point, your Tank Johnson reference. You make it too easy, man. Johnson was suspended for 8 games, not 10 as you state, and at the time of his suspension, Sir Roger said there was the possibility of reducing it to 6 games if he stayed out of trouble and got counselling. But beyond correcting that fact, how many run-ins with the law did Tank Johnson have before a) Goodell even had one of his oh-so-effective "sit downs" with the young lad, and b) before he saw fit to suspend him? Let me tell you, since I doubt you'll get it right yourself. He was first caught with an illegal gun in his car (in the passenger cabin, not locked in a box in his trunk) outside a nightclub. Then he was later arrested for aggravated assault and resisting arrest (and had to be maced), although the charges were eventually dropped. Then the police raided his home and found more illegal guns, some loaded with children in the house, which violated his probation. His bodyguard was also found to be in possession of pot, which was obviously his (wink, wink). It was after all this that Goodell had his "sit down" with Johnson, after which he suspended him for the aforementioned 8 games, for repeated similar offenses/violating parole. Much like he finally suspended Marshall after repeated similar offenses. Once again, I'd like to know how the Commish even suspends Lynch for 3 games, for 2 dissimilar incidents, with the first being just a traffic ticket? I'd also like to know how it's so unreasonable to want to see the 3-game suspension reduced to 1 game, and why that hasn't happened, yet, seeing as how he appealed a month ago? And hey, I don't know what makes you think you're a Bills fan, man. When you say idiotic sh-- like "have you not seen [Maybin's] killer first step," it reveals you as a troll. I don't know, what did Maybin ever do to you that you would make such a statement? Has he proven to suck on the playing field? Did he commit any crimes? Does he draw attention to himself and "destroy teams?" Was he a "reach?" Then the stuff about TO is mind-numbingly idiotic. I'm still waiting to hear from you whether TO needs to be the leader in all receiving categories on a catch-by-catch basis, versus game-by-game, or season-by-season? Like if Evans catches 2 passes to start the Patriots* game and TO has 1 or none, will he "destroy" the team then? And look, it's not a hard concept to grasp that an employee (which Goodell is) would suck-up to his more powerful employers (which Bowlen, Shanahan, Snyder, Jones, etc.) are. I'm sure you do it as well. There is simply NO other reason for his rulings when it comes to Brandon Marshall, as well as other players, versus Lynch.