
VOR
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Um, no. The Lions offered a 2010 7th rounder that was conditional on Dockery's playing time. Hardly an "opportunity." And by the time the Lions came back with a real offer, it was too late. And Dockery's agent said that the Bills weren't at fault for the trade not going through. But don't worry. The Lions will probably send the Bills a higher pick than the 7th rounder, when Dockery plays like a chump for the Skins.
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Anyone Agree with Tim Graham on This?
VOR replied to toddgurley's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Longs was 48 mil, with incentives. Also, IMO it's just plain dumb for anyone to say the "guaranteed money" is the important part. It's a LOT more accurate and highly likely that "the guaranteed money plus the first three years of salary is the important part" because virtually everyone of these guys plays 2-3-4 years of those deals with that team before they are cut if they don't live up to the contract. LOL! The guaranteed money is far from "dumb." That's what a player can at least expect from his contract. The total value of the contract is always overstated, because it includes incentives as you mentioned and backloaded salaries that are never seen since the contract gets redone or the player gets cut. And no one knows if the player will reach the incentives or see a new deal, but guaranteed money is guaranteed money. And again, these rookies are wholly unproven and not a "stud" LT like Peters supposedly is, so he's worth the additional money, if there is any. -
TO has played in as many playoff games since leaving the 49'ers as Moss has since leaving the Vikings...and has as many TD's. And Moss is on his 2nd team while TO is on his 3rd, and Garcia is on his 5th. Nuff said.
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Typical T.O. tactics: "I'll be the scapegoat."
VOR replied to Thurman#1's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
The reporter should have asked Romo what he thought about his owner(s) saying he wasn't a leader, not what TO said about Romo's owner(s) saying he wasn't a leader. -
Anyone Agree with Tim Graham on This?
VOR replied to toddgurley's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Peters will get $24M in guaranteed money, which is the most important part, since contracts rarely last the entire length. Chris Long got a 6-year $56.6M contract with $29M in guaranteed money. Adjusting for inflation, the 2nd overall pick will probably get around a 6-year $60M with $30M guaranteed. Vernon Gholston got a 5-year $50M with $21M guaranteed, and the 6th overall pick will make more this year. -
TO won't be a problem this year. And I doubt he cares what FJ says or does.
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Let's not use this as a model for health care reform
VOR replied to Beerball's topic in Off the Wall Archives
Here's a good article on the myth of Obamacare: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124640626749276595.html -
The league has negotiated network payment during work stoppage for at least the last 2 decades (i.e. since the last work stoppage in 1987, although realize that the networks get credits towards future payments should that happen, so it's not like the owners takes no hit at all if it happens, along with losing other revenue like parking, concessions, etc., like john said). So that had nothing to do with the 2006 CBA. And if they continued to get paid during a work stoppage, a "war chest" (which I haven't heard talk of before) wouldn't be needed, since they wouldn't have to pay the players, because, well, they're locked-out. As for Kraft's work with the TV contracts, the NFL has sold itself since Fox entered the fray in 1993 (a year before Kraft bought the Patriots) and created a "scarcity" if you will, since CBS, NBC, and ABC all had their nice neat little packages. However ABC did recently pull-out, and if they don't re-enter, this will negatively impact the "scarcity" of the NFL product. The only smart thing the owners did was to include the "opt-out" clause. I don't know if they have ever put that into any of their other CBA's, but they obviously did it because they realized that this was a bad, bad deal. What would have been smarter however was putting the screws to the players in 2006, before they got a taste of 59.5% of TOTAL revenue. Speaking of which, another question you may ask is, why base the cap on total revenue? Why not a higher percentage of shared revenue?
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Anyone Agree with Tim Graham on This?
VOR replied to toddgurley's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Sure and the Bills could have refused the 21st overall just so that they could get the 28th overall pick and a 6th rounder in 2010. -
He should have put Flutie on ST's.
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Anyone Agree with Tim Graham on This?
VOR replied to toddgurley's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
I know there were no other substantial offers, because the Bills ended-up settling for the 28th overall pick. And the only other team interested was the Giants, and some unnamed 3rd team, again both of whom didn't offer more than the 28th overall pick. As for the Eagles and challenging for the SB, they've been doing that without Peters. Not to mention the Steelers and Giants won SB's without "stud" and overpriced LT's. -
Hmmmm. Sounds suspiciously like another player. Except that said other player is a future HOF'er, and Flutie is not.
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Who said they lied when it came to TO?
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Bloggers have no credibility. Professional writers at least have some, as well as accountability.
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Why, you think he made the whole thing up?
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What was the players' leverage back in 2006?
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Yeah, and Bledsoe didn't look his way until the 2nd half. Which prompted Jerruh Jones to say ""I was surprised Terrell didn't have more catches. That was not our plan." Good point. TO was suspended after the 7th game of that season, with the Eagles having a 4-3 record. Doing the math, there were 9 more games after that. And he was top-3 in catches, yards, and TD's for WR's in the NFL. I'm not missing any point. You said that TO tried to commit suicide. Then you started mocking him for it, or were you mocking "the drama?" What I find funny is that you'd do that, and then get your panties in a wad over TO over calling Garcia gay, which I admitted was wrong. And we don't know what TO stumbled on, given that he was teammates with Garcia for 5 years. Of course you'll take the tack that all that matters is a QB's performance with one team, and everything after means nothing. That's the excuse you use for Flutie "just losing" with the Chargers. A great, or even a good QB, will win wherever he goes. Not to mention you've used the "TO is on his 3rd team..." thing several times. Trent started the 2nd half of the 2007 season, and was the starter going into last season. He's not merely a "2nd year starter." And Fine and Nelson won't be any worse than Royal. If Trent has a bad year and it's because of the TE's... Wow, "the best QB the Bills have had since Kelly?" Isn't that like Jauron being the best head coach since Phillips? And the article by Gleason is what it is and proof of what I've been saying. But as is the case, you'll dismiss it because it destroys your belief.
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True, it's not a threat to all small market teams. It's a threat to all teams, period. Hence the reason they opted-out of it at the earliest possible opportunity.
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Yep. Flutie played most of the Chargers opening-day game, and took over in the Rams game when the Bills had the lead. He didn't "just win" in those games. And as was mentioned, the Bills' first win came in the 4th game of the season, against the 49'ers, with RJ at the helm.
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Nope, same interview.
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Actually Ralph's real reason for voting it down was what he said after "I didn't understand it" (which was the part of that interview that few saw, thanks to ESPN): "I thought the players got too much." The "I didn't understand it" was a half-joke, meant to play on the perception that he voted against the deal because he was old and senile and thus didn't understand the greatness of it. He did admit that 45 minutes wasn't enough time for such a long and important document, but he understood enough about it, more than the other owners at the time, because they eventually scuttled it at the earliest opportunity.
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It was rushed through because the NFLPA had already pushed-back the start of FA several times and said they wouldn't do it again. Had they not agreed-upon a new CBA, the Cowboys, Redskins, and the Pats would have had to cut players left and right to get under it.
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Owens, Whitner visit paralyzed HS player
VOR replied to Beerball's topic in The Stadium Wall Archives
Great, now the kid is going to get cancer. -
Well now, he's a greedy, senile old coot and "didn't understand it." And he only voted it down because it would have cost him money. Whereas the other owners were only out to prevent a work stoppage. Or something stupid like that.
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A "poor deal?" Come now! It was an awesome deal because hey, it preserved labor peace (for a few years, while costing the owners hundreds of millions). I mean, 30 of 32 owners voted for it!