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They can “ thrive” in ths dome against an average team all they want. It will Mean nothing. So what if we beat a non conference opponent ( and I’m not sure we will as Peyton is a better , SB winning coach ). .does that Improve our afc conference standing? All our loses are AFC loses. , we lose tiebreakers to everyone except the pats as we have yet to play them. Our o is stagnant , our line is not capable of short yardage wins and we can’t/ don’t run in the red zone. Do yo honestly see us winning away games against the Bucs / Pats? I see our best record as 11-6, and could be 10-7 and losing tie breakers , as we are outside looking in. We blew the easy wins, our o coordinator won’t run the ball and does not know how to develop an effective run scheme. After losses to the Bucs& Pats, we turn toward draft discussion , but most importantly we begin our search for a new o coordinator who can combine the run and pass. Pats game may be close within a possession ,but I see theBucs easily by 14-17 points. The pats , getting on a roll for the playoffs , lay a big loss on us in New England as the bills are ready to forget this season and players know coordinators, line coaches are lame ducks. Basically , a dome doesn’t run or stop the run! Our line play , slow backs like moss, and an o coordinator refusing to run , has wasted a season , or two as we are forced to rebuild an offense that is not solely based on Josh. Even TB, got help and it’s a shame it took a wasted year for Mcd and Beane to grasp basic NFL winning principles. Do you HONESTLY BELIEVE WE SWEEP THE BUCS ANd PATS? And if the dome is so important,,,,,,where are we getting one for the two pats games and against the Bucs? The bills ARE WHO WE SAW against the Colts,,,,,,records are not fabricated! We may squeak by the Saints, another so- so team, but do t drink the kool- aid,,,,we are not beating the Bucs at home and the pats twice. Hey , they lead the division and they just need to win one of our games to take the division, and this Bills team is too inconsistent to string wins together. They haven’t in a month, no evidence they can flip a switch now! There is no run coming like we saw end last year. Hope to be wrong, but I hope to win the lottery too ! I like controlling one’s fate over hope every time!

Really sorry. I am typing on an ipad due to surgery on my neck which damaged my cervical cord and my hands have no feeling and are not working correct,y. Was about Vernon Butler , not Ed. Before I edited , I actually drifted off from pain meds helping cope with 3 new cages filled with Cadaver bone for discs and plates and screws holing my cervical vertebrae in place until they fuse. Good news I can still walk , bad news is I no longer feel my hands or arms. I Sorry about confu#ion. Check Finas analysis about Vernon Butler not Ed who has been a monster. Finas podcast ,off tackle with John fina, with Joe Miller is worth your time on YouTube! Again I apologize for the missed typos. 😉

Well, quite vague. Sorry if your related / friends with Oliver wom. Many have calls for his release asap ! It’s ok , everyone entitled to opinions right? I trust Finas evaluation Ashe had several plays documenting the same lack of effort. Takes a lot of bad play to get mentioned that much by names by an o lineman who has be in those rooms and even been the j subject of criticism himself. I certainly thought his breakdown was well throughout and certainly our run stopping results I think we could agree, was as bad as it gets. I think Fina is credible and has been in thise film / meeting rooms so I tend to think he has more credibility than most amateurs spouting random ideas. If yiunaremdiredrinf the criticism at me , that ok , I’m not a proficient film nreakdown guy. I defer to Fina and I found his explanations insightful, yet not so over laden with jargon that they were not accessible. After being on j this forum since the 80’s, and seeing name allying and personal attacks . I have to say I have seen many worse , Juvenile takes and even recently the personal attacks just for differing critiques about the Bills has risen to disappointing rhetoric. It is what it is but a one sentence critique adds little effort or counter intelligence to the discussion. Guess that’s reaching a level of gospel tho that is on its own level. At any rate, best wishes and happy thanksgiving !

Hey also , originally from Ohio , moved to Jax in 85. Skynerd was a fav band. And watched them play a huge stadium tour in Pittsburgh ! I got to meet several of them after moving here and even drove Leon Wilkerson around one night after meeting him in a dive bar. Called pier 7. Later Judy van zant , Ronnie’s widow, opened a club , restaurant called free bird in Jax beach. Became friends as she trusted me as her fam doc! I also treated her daughter whose husband was the lead guitar player of Shinedown! Great , humble young man. Saw lots of great shows in that small venue. Todd rundgren Leon Russell , Jefferson starship, thin Lizzy, Steve Vai , to name a few in a venue that held between 250-500 tops! It eventually folded. But meeting the wife of the infamous Ronnie van zant and some people aroind that group was surreal for a guy from around Steubenville , Ohio! They had an amateur jam night there that was amazing. Lost of talented southern rock musicians and great , beautiful young vocalists. Will work on looks once I trust my hands with sharp things sroinf my carotids etc ! Best wishes. If you can , heck our Finas ideas! Pulls no punches !

Had recent neck surgery and my hands are not steady yet. Can’t even eat soup w a spoon without missing the large mouth. My hands still have quite a bit of tremor in them. Thx for the advice , have had a beard since 20:so maybe I cropped iT. Too close. In a suit and white coat tho,I am friends with my share of nurses, the sexiest women in the world. But at age 64/, things time is taking it’s toll , plus added Bills stress is not helping ! Lol!

Disclaimer, I wanted to pass on some great ideas and explanation about that debacle we all were traumatized with against the Colts. I have no financial or other interest in a podcast on YouTube called OFF TACKLE , WITH JOHN FINA and Joe Miller as the host. Fina was a starting tackle Ada rookie on the SB 27 team in Pasadena and played many years for the Bills and teamed with Joe Miller to do a podcast that is on Tuesdays after the prior weeks game. It is tremendous insight from a lineman who played for our Bills on Super bowl teams. I watch several podcasts from.amateurs and from pro broadcasters , team beat reporters , national spokespersons etc , and I can honestly say there are so many confusing and contradictory analytic ideas that it’s hard to really know what to believe. Well, do yourself a favor , take an hour of your time to look on YouTube for Finas OFF TACKLE podcast , and you will be entertained with humor , actual X’s and O’s Analysis , and FRANK , HONEST EVALUATION that is eye opening and information that comes from a pro o lineman who has been in meeting rooms after losses like this. He ends with some hope and actual ideas to solve issues , not just complaining for no reason or without offering constructive criticisms. At the same time , he offered eye opening frank analysis of the issues on both sides of the ball that avoids rose colored glass , fanboy analysis. It is somewhat depressing because the issues are real and not solved easily , but if they aren’t , any realistic dreams of playoff hopes is living in a fantasy. He spares no names , no positions , and he does it to not be mean spirited , but as a Bills fan / alumni, who wants the best for the team. You are left with the impression of wishing Fina was on our o line staff ( maybe soME day he will be but currently has family commitments such as his son being a center, I believe,at UCLA. ). Briefly , the biggest and most critical analysis was about Vernon Butler ! Probably not a surprise to many on here. Yet Fina called him out for THR CARDINAL SIN OF LACK OF EFFORT ON MULTIPLE PLAYS.! He was shocked seeing how little effort Oliver played with. MuLTIPLE. plays he as pushed 5 or more yards behind the LOS. HE even saw plays with the o line driving Oliver backward holding onto the BACK OF HIS JERSEY as he was being pushed away from the line. And Fina made no bones about the fact that Oliver’s bad play directly resulted,in long Taylor runs several times. You need to hear John explain it as only John can. It was an embarrassment and he said either Oliver has frankly quit or the coaching technique is so bad that changes need to be made. It takes a lot for a player to call out another player , but Fina didn’t hesitate. The honesty is refreshing. After listening, Oliver should be gone and never touch the field,for the bills agsin. And yes , just missing Edmunds and Starr could have made a big enougn difference to have slowed Taylor. The colts exploited that weakness and just missing these two starters probably did add to the blow out. Please , go listen for yourself. If we don’t fix this Oliver issue and get healthy, we may well see the Saints do the same, as Fina pointed out you can bet they are tweaking their game plan after watching That colts game! Honestly , if the coaches can’t light t a fire or teach better technique , we sadly are in big trouble. Moving on to Johns area of expertise , it was another great listen. He feels Ford is basically a liability and he does not see a good future or him. The one guy he supports is Morse. Dawkins was ok this past game. Fina sees a lot of bad technique by players and it seems like it comes down to coaching ( Johnson ) , and either poor running game scheme development or poor coaching ( mentions especially Daboll) that involves mistakes by guys like moss and Allen and that is either on them or poor scheme and coaching by Daboll! The one area Fina really tackled was the poor runs , mostly by Moss. Moss hesitates and makes several mistakes including vision and not even going where the zone run is designed to go. Easy to say Fina is not a fan of moss! He can explain it best, but just in one example he showed how moss was lost , hesitated and ran into the back of the o line; for that type of run to be successful, it’s a speed play were you have to run to the edge as fast as possible and you can’t pick or choose a hole. The holes were there , esp on One play where Sweeney and knox opened a hole and moss was going to the wrong side! Holes were there for 7-15 yards according to Fina , but moss was lost. Interestingly he also criticized Allen whose technique was either poorly taught or taught incorrectly. His shoulders were not square during the handoff and blocked mosses view of the intended hole. If it was not taught , then Daboll is not paying arrention to detail. John did not mince words. This performance AND coaching is not acceptable and if it’s not corrected , we can expect more results like the colts game. The positive is it is possible to fix most of these coaching issues by chewing some ass! The negative is we have some positions thin or devoid of talent ! I promise it’s worth an hour. Fina has unique talent and has a future as a coach or a a broadcaster! Great humor as the time flies by, and I think you will feel like you gained insight from a true NFL insider that is rare to come by!! I am bad with links , cuz I’m an old dude , please forgive me. I promise it’s some of the best analysis you will hear and actually enjoy And it’s by a bright, funny, humorous great family and Bills guy! Look on YouTube , OFF TACKLE WITH JOHN FINA and Joe Miller as the host. I know I have a better idea as to what’s going on regarding the horrific play we were asked to endure. Best wishes, Happy Thanksgiving. To my fellow Bills fans! ( ps, sorry for many original typos! Had recent surgery involving my cervical cord as 4 discs collapsed unexpectedly and I am left with probable permanent loss of feeling in my hands and arms as the discs trapped and damaged my mid and lower cervical spinal cord. I had a 3 level anterior spinal fusion which replaced 3 discs ( NEURO wanted to do 4 levels but I was in surgery 5 hours and they stopped early because of neck/ chest wall edema and bleeding). It involved putting cages in my neck filled with cadaver bone to replace my own neck cervical discs, stabilized by plates and screws.! Lol. Honestly it’s been pretty uncomfortable and the needed pain meds have made me loopy at times so I apologize for so many typos. Thanks to hapless for proof reading ! Hope you still take a chance to catch Fina who is a real talent. The pain meds kicked in and I fell asleep prior to proof reading. It’s worth the laughs alone plus you will hear how a pro feared those lights on reviews in the film sessions!

I do agree about mckenzie, both in what that fumble meant ( and all year I have expected a bone headed play from him based on his uncertainty in fielding kicks/punts) and long term regarding the special teams. How often have we been pushed further back after a blocking in the back flag!? I would bet over 50% of the time we get flagged. If I’m coaching, I never let them take a ball out of the ENDZONE. We just put the offense in a position where Daboll gets even more conservative and we.make drives harder. Also given Dabolls lack of using mckenzie for jet rushes, why waste the roster spot? Worst roster management I have seen perhaps ever. Who else has lost TWO draft picks to teams poaching players off their practice squads? After that fumble , the game was sealed! I would get rid of him , Ford, bring up the 7 th eound rookie ( Stevenson?) and i am looking to poach an Ol from some other squad ( not hart,,,,omg, we and the titans cut him so Bean brings him back, can’t be real! Maybe being punked). If nothing else , it sends a message , put the ball on the ground , dont keep focus , keep screwing with tic tok and stupid handshakes when your JOB IS PLAYOFF CALIBER FOOTBALL , and you’re not needed here. There are lots of guys who can fill the bottom of the roster role. This team is undisciplined and playing unwatchable ,LOSING football that customers pay hard earned money to follow. They are focusing / playing like they have forgotten it is an honor to be on a NFL team and have people want to watch you. They have fallen into the trap of thinking they will just flip the switch when they want to. This team will be lucky to dig itself out of this hole and it wouldn’t surprise me if they add another embarrassing chapter to their history and lose the afc east title back to the Pats after holding it for only one year! Mcd, tho , will want the press to focus on mckenzie back story so the fumble will hardly be mentioned. This mess is on Beane and Mcd , and sadly it’s looking like another wasted year and I hope all the smug people who were talking about a “bye” month will op their eyes and minds and at least listen to rational critiques of the teams play even when they barely eek out wins because quality of a win is actually a measurement of future success. Not all W’s or L’s are equal.

It does. Article makes it look fairly simple. The defenses have figured out our team has been built predominantly with passing n mind in offense. This is compounded by mcds lack of offensive knowledge/ concepts being a defensive specialist. He turned all his trust to Daboll , who many have noted , does not have a history of running top rated offenses. He focused on the passing game given the qb with an amazing arm. He has Refused to develop any real semblance of a running game, even at times with some success he remains arrogant in his refusal to commit to it. Example; moss& motor struggle, yet Brieda never saw the field until the 9 th week and even with success yesterday early in the game , he got less than 10 touches. Actually happened the year before as well when despite occasional success, Yeldon remained benched. Brieda has speed that made the difference in success of run plays , but Daboll obviously is not proficient at run design so he still avoids it. Why tho, when it’s knowledge around the league how to make Josh struggle , would the head coach ALLOW the lack of running to continue? I just can’t see longer tenured , successful coaches like Tomlin, Belicheck ,etc deferring. To the offensive coordinator with the teams success on the line. We all as amateurs see the issue and problems it’s creating. One dimensional offense which is getting easier to defend. The season Is on the line ; question is can Mcd either demand a different gsme plan from Daboll or does he have fortitude to turn play calling over , at least as a trail , to someone like the qb coach if Daboll can’t design or refuses to run more? That’s not hyperbole, we are the last place playoff team and the toughest part of the schedule remains. Josh is not responding to coaching as he refuses to throw Short routes before holding the ball and repeatedly checking if he could still try a deep pattern like the one that resulted in the first int yesterday. My gut feeling, based on 5 years of Mcd, is we see no changes and we will get out-coached by the Bucs , and the pats . Mcd is a guy of habit , he hasn’t yielded so far , and I expect more of what we saw when we play teams with strong running games which is unfortunate watching the pats offense and with Belicheck s history of almost total dominance over Mcd. Mcd, who seems to be very loyal , may be struggling with his admirable loyalty, as it makes it difficult to confront those he sees as equal peers, like Daboll and Frazier. Despite two games ( and others in prior seasons where we saw absolute beat downs against running teams) Frazier absolutely would not switch out of the 4-2-5 even against the two best runners in the league ! It’s almost a level of arrogance that says, go ahead and beat us, pound us, but I / we will show you eventually We are right and this d is better if WE JUST EXECUTE it properly. Frazier’s D has seemed ok against lessor competition , but the Titans and Colts , actual playoff caliber teams, ran all over our D. The colts threw for under 140 yards, yet we stuck in a defensive scheme designed to defend the pass which was getting blown away by the power run blocking scheme. Who’s really in control of the D.? Is the 4-2-5 mcds scheme which he will steadfastly stick to regardless of in game results, or is it from Frazier and Mcd’ s personality won’t allow him to demand a change even as we see results consistently showing the Bills can’t compete against capable running teams. I don’t know how else to explain watching your d being destroyed , yet not even trying any different scheme! Didn’t Mcd once take over play calling in the D? This game , I believe, is emblematic of the problems that I can’t envision suddenly going away and us going on a winning streak ! Facts are facts; we haven’t won two in a row in a month so what woiod make us think we suddenly will win out? Even if we get lucky and beat the Saints, I can’t see yesterdays team beating the Bucs or the Pats. That article seems well researched and this team seems on track for disappointing results. Mcd is a guy of habit , and I think it will take the reality of having this season slowly slip away before making needed changes next year. I really hope this is Dabolls last year with the Bills. Two years of ignoring running and a balanced offense is enough for me. I’m on the fence with Frazier , willing to see if he is capable of adapting when we face this years Pars and Bucs. The results are what I hope drives mcds staff choices for the next year. Lastly, as I stated before ,hearing players like Josh say “ that’s not us” ,is part of this culture that Mcd has fostered and in some ways I think hinders them from honest self evaluation. The “24” hour rule seems ok On the surface, as the mantra echoed by every player that “ it’s just one game, we will flush it”: yet is like a state of denial. EVERY GAME matters, success is built on prior success. Losing. Also builds on itself. These losses matter; already we have lost a goal of a home AFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME ( in all likelihood) , and in getting to the SB, home field matters; how coukd we not know that after losing in KC!? Time for this team to face facts! Josh, yes you are a mediocre 6-4 team with no offensive identity , and you Need to be honest that ( despite stats , as only W’s matter) your play and turnovers are contributing to losses. Stop the lip service about “ I can’t do that” , “ I’ve got to be better with ball security” etc thats heard every week , and ACTUALLY PLAY THAT WAY ! Be a leader, get in some guys faces ( like the o line guys getting you killed, remember Kelly chewing out house Ballard) actually TAKE THE SHORT OPEN ROUTES instead of holding the ball so long! Why not get back to work on your fundamentals ( balls above, behind, low to open receivers when you are NOT PRESSURED) ! Your play has slipped and let’s not keep focusing on MVP crap! I greatly respect Mcd , but the mantra of it’s just one game, ( losing against the colts was a much different loss than the jags or Steelers loss) downplays and minimizes the significance of a bad trend and almost makes admitting emotion like anger over a loss akin to a bad trait! We need some leaders on this team who actually get pissed, show that ALL these games have meaning, quit dismissing losses as “ that’s not us” ,and point out each loss means a ton if we end up on the road for the entire playoffs! This culture may be adding to the softening of this team as they give at least the appearance that losing is so quickly forgotten , and it really isn’t that bad ! I would love to see them get back on a winning streak , but so far I admit I don’t see clues leading me to be hopeful, and that article is also shooting up warning flares!

Loved Leonard smith! You’re right , he was a true enforcer. This team has little passion. No leaders like Talley, Bruce, Conlan, Bennett, odomes, dr sack ( Leon seals). On o we had Kelly, Reed, Thurman, hull. Richter, mueller, etc,,,,guys not afraid to get in each other’s face and expect more. Josh may mature into that if mcds cliches don’t. Actually hinder his development as a leader. Football is a physical , get in your opponents face type of sport. It amazes me that a head coach with a wrestling background allows such undisciplined play and players seem so over coached , as there is no one allowed to do anything but critique themselves even when it’s obvious some guys need their butts chewed. This team gets beaten psychologically; get them down more than one possession and they fold with no backbone. It’s 5 years of Mcd culture drilling how to be the best version of you rather than how to dominate in a violent sport. It’s created a soft team culture where every game is “ just another game”! , Heaven forbid you say something out of line or fail to reiterate the same 5 year old cliches. If we as fans get tired of it, imagine hearing it daily for years. Players are grown , smart men. This is like your same old boss , going thru the same HR points every week! Lol! People require inspiration by their leaders and man , how much inspiration do you ever feel after hearing Mcd ! Good, great, faithful man. Probably too loyal to a fault. He has allowed Daboll to ignore solving the run game issue and put up with Daboll limiting Brieda after a stellar start today. I like someone like Ohio states Ryan day His d was getting g killed so he didn’t stand pat! Plus he is never satisfied , but.also not afraid to praise when deserved. Would love to see him with this o talent and honestly right now , I think he will become a good NFL coach. Take an honest look at our roster. We have no mean Joe greens on this team , no bad asses that play w heart. No lamberts, no Lloyd’s! Poyer and hyde do play with passion but it doesn’t go much beyond them. Josh even seems to have been reigned in quite a bit this year.( emotionally, not by encouraging smart , patient play) This team will get pounded by the pats, IMHO , just wait. They are playing with CONFIDENCE, PLAYING FAST , AND ENJOYING THE GAME PLANS! The pats play tough, hit hard , and they play Intelligently as well. Can you say that about this Bills team? Mcd looks like he is wilting under. the expectations as this year there are no excuses of not having your scouted , chosen players. Did you see Frank celebrating the win today!? Mcd was again thouroughly out coached! Even die hard national media supporters are mentioning the Teams obvious flaws. It’s just.not me. Being an old complaining man. This team is spiraling down. I would bet we lose to the Bucs because of better qb play , and at least one to the better coaches pats if not both because our o has no identity and our d will not stop thrur run gone. I do hope I am just over reacting , but after watching the bills for 40 plus years, it feels like deja vu all over again. Thursday will be a big clue as Peyton is no slouch coach. Mcd may be embodying the peter ( or maybe peterman) principle! Lol!

Just as easy to argue our wins this year we’re against all teams already playing poorly. Last year the quality of our pla was good and consistent. It has rarely if at all achieved that this year. We have proven we can win, getting to an afc championship game ! You achieved thise results and they were not given to you. However , with similar talent , they are failing miserably , not performing to a level they and we saw them do. This years play pails in comparison, they have failed to continue improving and many times their play looks uninspired ( jags and this game where they were lacking enthusiasm,,'!did you see any big or hard hits by our d today?). This is an underachieving team. As an anology., let’s say I get my md degree or get board certified in pain medicine. I’ve proven I can achieve it. Now if I let it all lapse , does that discount My prior achievements or did I let things slide back and underachieve , relying on past accomplishments instead of meeting new requirements expected to stay current with others in the field? The Bills as an organization , esp the coaching staff , are underachieving and I hope the responsible ones are held accountable. Then again , in all reality it’s only football and disappointment is what we Bills fans have been served almost routinely except for that amazing and wonderful 4 year SB run! It’s re- enforcement that you can never trust this organization until you see the final outcome. For example , we COULD have possibly tried improving prior to The trade deadline, knowing our weaknesses, but they stood pat with possibly one quality win under their belt. THIS particular coaching staff moves like they have all the time in the world , a glacier like pace! Let’s not insert a speed back until week 9 and then even if productive , let’s use him less than a handful, of plays. No rash decisions by this staff, even tho our current backs lack explosive plays and can’t convert short yardage or in the red Zone! Let’s keep the same tendencies because maybe we could make a mistake ! This has been the definition of coaching underachieving at its finest !

When analyzing the quality of the wins, it was easy to see many people question play calling, and the inconsistent play. It’s no surprise other teams have passed us by. We fail to adjust and even the chiefs , pats, titans all are in control of their chances to get to the SB. Meanwhile the bills play regresses and no one is fearing facing them in the near future!

This is a passionless , PC CORRECT team where no one is allowed to hold others accountable! We will be told again, there are some plays we want back , and hey , 24 hour rule and it’s only one game! Passion has been coached out of this team and under performing is just ignored! Who cares if you lose because you MUST FORGET it in 24 hours and we have SO MANY MORE GAMES TO play! Meanwhile Belicheck has a less talented , rookie lead team now ahead and in control of their own destiny ! Truly one if the worst coaching performances by a Bills team in quite a while. Another blow out loss to add to the list of those during mcds tenure. This is looking like poor talent evaluation in free agency , and lack of holding coordinators , assistant coaches responsible in a one dimensional offense and a very soft d against QUALITY running teams. I don’t see how anyone can still remain in denial that we will achieve our goals of home playoff games and A SB appearance. Josh continues to make critical mistakes unless he is playing with a lead. Herbert looks like the real deal while I am beginning to think Dabolls lack to help with any run support is resulting in Josh regressing as our record speaks to our true potential. Time after time we see Josh take bad sacks while in possible fg position. It’s was an embarrassment to give up 5 tds at home to THE ONE GUY WE ALL KNEW HAD TO BE CONTAINED , yet the Bills allow themselves once again to be the butt of jokes on a national stage! Anyone really confident we beat the saints? The pats look like a legit team as this team throws up losses to the Jags and a fairly one dimensional colts team at home! But hey , it’s only one game, and don’t think about it longer than 24 hours! One thing this team has mastered, clichés! That’s one thing that is certain to last longer than 24 hours! 😉😊

It is like they are short of true leaders , guys who wouldn’t let the team lose. Here they just “ don’t get too up or too down “ , it’s the 24 hour rule or one game only philosophy that is prevalent. It’s like a win or a loss means nothing as it’s “ only one game “ ! Where are guys like Talley, Jim, Thurman, Bruce, Hull, and of course , Levy!? It’s an emotionless brand of football. No pride when you keep getting pounded AT HOME! I’m sorry , but the league has quickly caught up to this one dimensional offensive philosophy and when it starts to go bad, there are no older vocal vets to depend on for experience or guidance. Josh is a great person , good qb, but too young to really have developed leadership skills that can will the team to a win. He has shown he starts to push, his sideline demeanor is dramatically different when things start going bad. I dont blame him, this is on Mcd who has preached team so much it seems he has coached individuality out of the teams psyche. This was a performance AFTER. A players only meeting! Who is holding anyone accountable? Why is Daboll not accountable for lack of creativity finding ways to get Brieda the ball until game 9 of the season despite terrible production by Moss ( who lacks focus with at least one drop a game) ? The offense looks unfocused,,,no semblance of last years successful passing game ! Of course, Mcd and Beane are responsible for this horrible o line along with Johnson. All the money on the d line yet we produce NO SAcks. ! We have talent like horrible Harry who is indeed horrible! How many times did we see him driven backwards today? So you have a talent deficit, coupled with a lack of true leaders on the team. Hyde and Poyer are good leaders but I don’t see much past that, and don’t most teams have their d leaders on the line or LB positions? White is a good player , but not a very vocal leader. Edmunds is becoming better but again , kind of a reserved leader. On O , other than when Josh is playing well, who is SERIOUS and holds guys accountable ,,,,Diggs? Morse is another cerebral , yet soft spoken leader. When is a receiver a prominent leader on a team, and BTW, SANDERS HAS become MIA. THEY WERE THE BIckering BILLs, but Kelly , Reed, Thurman played with passion and were not hesitant to call each other out. This is such a PC TEAM, we don’t see anything like that on this team because they have had passion coached out for mcds business like approach. You don’t see excitement ( passion) on this teams sideline like we used too when they were arguably less talented. Now they look at it as just “ one game” and it’s just one of so many with no sense that these losses mean anything as they almost “ expect “ to go on a run like they did last year. Yet there is little creativity in the game plans from week to week ! The big losses keep piling up , as each year we see at least one or two of a typical blowout , where the team gets spanked in mcds tenure. Pretty unusual when you supposedly have so much talent and you are in year 5 of your coaching plan. If you watched the recent Pats game, that d plays with passion and they actually hit the qb! Our d was tough against bottom feeders but so far teams with some talent have breezed thru us. KC looks much better now, because they adjusted! We knew Taylor was coming and wentz was perhaps their weak link, yet Frazier and Mcd kept with our nickel and the result was.a 5 touchdown performance from Taylor. Would Belicheck allow Taylor to single handedly take over the game,,,,,not usually his style as his players talk about the constant changing game plans. Perhaps we are seeing why Daboll and Frazier are not getting offered head jobs !? This has been a season of bad game planning by Daboll except against the lowly jets. Yet don’t forget his O scored ZERO TDS against the jags! Look at the passion of Frank reich who obviously didn’t forget that tight loss to the Bills last year. He has turned the team around after a slow start , as has Belicheck ! What are we seeing from Mcd and Frazier; no creativity , same D and Daboll is ALLOWED to ignore or destroy our run game. ( and seeing brieda , perform today , it doesn’t look impossible to be able to run, they just keep returning with bad performances by moss as acceptable). Leadership, passion on this team seems deficient and it starts at the top. Hate, call me an idiot , etc but the old axiom is true; you are what your record is ! Their goal was home field playoff games this year. How sad is it to be behind a mediocre qb in Jones , and right now to be the last qualifying team for the playoffs !? So far this is one of the poorest coaching performances I can remember watching as other teams continue to overcome and pass us by. This O looks progressively worse, and our d scares no one! Frazier could not slow down Taylor and Daboll remains one dimensional and can’t coach Josh out of taking bad sacks when in fg range. We also continue to kill drive after drive with horrible penalties. Let’s not forget our special teams who can’t run a return without a flag and mckenzie has one more critical fumble than any great returns! We are 6-4 , behind the pats , and it’s looking a lot like another.wasted year losing 3 of 4 as SB aspirations seem very distant. Not many wild card teams get that far , esp with a lack of leaders who spout cliches after every mounting loss. Love the Bills; hate this type of play where all we hear is platitudes. Will gladly apologize if Mcd turns this around but let’s see how we play the Bucs and pats, and if we can ever win two in a row ( or even beat the saints). The jags game was supposed to be our galvanizing game; who knew it would be more of an accurate assessment of our true direction! This team looks directionless., and devoid if oasdion. They are definitely humble , but I don’t see the hunger they once had ! Once this team gets more than a one possession deficit , it is getting a reputation for imploding! Coaching and leadership are deficient at this point, based on this past month of results! Where are some true impact players on our heavily invested D line? Writing this as I watch the Steelers show what talent and passion can produce!

They are 6-4! The weather was perfect in Jacksonville! They have not won back to back games in almost two months ! The Bucs and pats will run the ball down their throats ! No team fears meeting the bIlls at this point. Pressure Josh , run the ball , get ahead and you have little to worry about. No running game and the passing attack is not consistent. This is a team in big trouble. Still think they need wake up losses!? Their goal was to have home playoff games. Not one sack against wentz ,? Wow. What trend do you think results in them getting hot? They are now what their record says. We beat poor teams and lose to real contenders. If they sweep the pats and Bucs, then I will eat crow. But this is turning into another disappointing season with Mcd having another of his characteristic blow oit losses that seem to occur yearly. Blaming weather for a team based in a poor weather city seems like you are in denial. Time will tell , but the Bucs and pats have better head coaches and if they don’t sweep those games , they may not even make the playoffs. We just passed the half way mark and we have more losses now than all of last year. Not very encouraging of a pending run ! Sooner or later you actually have to Win GAMES.

It is a felony in the United States; the FBI STATED IT when the card came out. There is a federal marking on the cards. I am licensed as an md in more than one state ,and that message went out that it was a FEDERAL crime to sell, counterfeit the cards, or Lie on them. Ignorance of this is no defense. If for example , I lied about vaccination status for a celebrity and it was found out, I would immediately have my licenses put on hold, possibly permanently revoked , fined , and face criminal charges and just saying I missed the email warning of the consequences would not save me from censorship or prosecution. It is well known faking those cards or lying on them is a federal crime. So while a certain state may say something different , I am pretty certain federal law would take precedent. It’s that way with marijuana laws as an example. While legal in states , you can still be prosecuted if you violate a federal law. If found to be a true falsification , I hope AB those that knew about it or participated in any way are held accountable. I still find it impossible to believe the Bucs really checked all the cards for validity and who really believes 100% of the Bucs players actually got vaccinated; it defies all normal human behavior and societal norms regarding this vaccine. The Bucs care about one directive, winning the SB. Not surprising a teams skirts the issues if they get in the way of winning( anyone remember deflategate?). Hey , someone as high profile as Rodgers , knowing the scrutiny he usually faces , chose to not get it and misstate the truth regarding this issue. I believe in personal choice and that’s how medicine should be practiced, as a team decision between a patient and physician. However , you can’t act that your job, playing FOOTBALL, is above every other profession and therefore it’s ok for AB to once again to live by different rules than every other American. I’m ok with his choice to not get vaccinated, I am not ok with falsifying federal , medical documents because you are rich enough to pay people to act illegally for you. How many chances does this recidivist deserve? IF HE DID THIS , Goodall who has instituted many rules regarding immunization must act by suspension ( like he has regarding substance abuse, Gordens many examples) and it should be severe and I hope he is federally prosecuted. Will also be telling howthe Bucs treat this. If true, and if nothing is done, fans should not support this behavior by buying Bucs gear etc. On the other hand we should support great behavior in the likes of people like Josh Allen ! Could there be any more obvious dichotomy in good versus bad examples of behavior for our youth to emulate! I am proud to support Josh and Jorden poyer as examples of what a good culture can lead to. The NFL can be better, and we should accept only it acting socially responsibly.

Going to keep it real. Is there anybody who doesn’t believe this clown actually did this , as Yolo said, it’s his brand and his behavior is consistent. Chance after chance after chance and so many witnesses can’t be ignored that this guy is a POS! He also then has the audacity to talk about how God has a plan for him to accomplish something great. How about letting God help you treat other humans with respect. You are not special just because you can catch a football and it shows how shallow someone like Brady is who keeps vouching for this guy despite his narcissistic, sociopathic behavior. I am all for personal choice regarding vaccines , but buying fake cards is literally a felony everywhere. It would be easy to prove if he ever got the vaccine. Trace the date., vaccine lot , and go to the place he supposedly got the vaccine. They have records of every vaccine, probably even have video evidence. Watch them sweep this under the rug because he caught it and is immune now which makes having the vaccine a mute point. But prior to that he still took part in a felony and given his past criminal record, the NFL AND THE BUCS should suspend him ( given alll the crap they out Rodgers thru) until this is proven one way or the other. It would take just a few days to know. The burden of proof is on him , especially given prior discipline, and as those of you know who got the vaccine , it’s pretty easy to prove the truth. I would never trust a card from him and I am sure his “ original “ card has been misplaced , so they have to go to where he got the vaccine I don’t care if someone delivered it to his home , they still are mandated to keep a record of it for ten years like all medical records. We all know us regular people would be being investigated already and many of us would be not allowed to work. This irks me as much as malpractice and stupid doctors who have no business having a license ( I say this as a colleague who has been an expert witness in malpractice cases, there is no excuse for stupidity and then lying to patients). This sociopath continues to lie and steal and yet the NFL awards him with millions of dollars. What is the likelihood that 100% of the Bucs got vaccinated; it just doesn’t fit with the rest of societal norms and I remain suspicious. It like the Bills o line play, you need to prove it to me now. If he can prove it he actually did get the j&j vaccine ( many younger patients were not taking it because of clotting and carditis issues ), I will post an apology. I bet we never hear much about this issue as again the NFL is caught in an embarrassing negligent incident while they continue to be sure they get across their “ woke” issues. No consistency of message with the NFL!

Well this post didn’t age well. The Pats are playing just as well as the Bills , actually more consistently with 5 wins in a row and don’t look now but they have one more win than we do. They have swagger and confidence on that d and their o line is at least looking better than ours right at this moment. Pressure is all on the Bills this year after having a big division lead and slowly watch it disappear because of “ good” , “ wake up call “ loses! Pats are doing what thry do, improve over November and December. Meanwhile , we keep having o line shuffles from management decisions to injuries, to Covid issues. Their o is power running to open up play action while we finally got some identity last week. The pats D is pressure oriented and made a vet like Ryan look terrible and the Falcons line looks like a potential problem for us given our season so far. They play smart O, and Jones is extremely accurate and is willing to take short gains until the D has to close in the box. We looked good against a terrible , one game wonder QB, while Jones is vying for offensive rookie of the year. ! This adds pressure and makes the Colts game, Saints game, must wins until we can get the Pats in Buffalo. This is the stretch where we see what we are made of and most importantly,, it will say much about Mcd as a coach and Beans team building philosophy! I dislike Belicheck but he has done a great job given the physical mediocrity of his rookie Qb. Josh could Learn patience in a system like this. Everybody believes the Bills will be out physically played and with our O line , it’s hard to argue that. If we lose the division , it would be another disappointing Bills memory, unless somehow we advance past them as a wild card. It’s just the physicality of the Pats that looks like real playoff ready football stylistically. If there was ever a real wake up call , it’s the Pats being right on the heels of the Bills as we struggle to be consistent. It’s been over a month since we have won back to back games ; time to play like you are last years East winners and show some pride! Don’t let the Pats TAKE it from you Bills ,as you are still in control of your own fate. Time to prove you want it and do belong at this years Super Bowl ! Who wants it more ?! 😉

This just goes to show that this is a new era in the NFL. We essentially lost two of our draft picks from this year, AFTER investing time, reps , not to mention we could have possibly made a couple of moves if we figured by the beginning of the year they would be perpetually on the PS squad. This is more thought / suggestion that hanging onto later round draft picks for the following year has little value as we essentially lost 2 pics now for no compensation. This adds more weight to the fact that if Beane had any chance to add value before the trade deadline, just as the Rams gm explained , holding on to those future late pics when you already have most of your roster filled out makes little sense compared to getting a player with known value. So perhaps we could have added some ol prospect, or even another dl prospect given zimmers situation. People criticized the rams saying they had few if any picks next year in the draft when in fact they have 8 picks already and will prob get more with comp pics. We are at a similar stage in team development; we have our solid , young core, and just sitting on those future pics guarantees nothing. We should be doing things like dumping Ford ( obvious his Bills career is over in the long run) , and using some pics to try to correct weaknesses for THIS YEARS SB run! if there is one thing that I feel is still a weakness with our staff, it’s roster management of the lower part of the roster. Breida showed this week how speed makes a difference. His two tds probably don’t happen with the lack of comparable speed from motor / moss. He ran and broke away thru small holes in those opportunities ( yes, the pass route required his speed to break open for the passing window) given for a two td gsme, which makes you wonder what might have been if he was used more , esp in Jax where the other backs did nothing as an example ! Losing two players in just one half of a season , meaning their draft pics netted zero, seems like very poor roster management at this point in the Mcd and Beane regime! Just because we have a good team doesn’t excuse losing players / essentially picks , for NOTHING! I am not an expert , but the fact that our roster is being picked / poached , while other teams like the rams , cowboys, cards , packers ( teams with equally good rosters and records ) are not getting players taken for no return , makes me think we are not managing the roster the best way. It’s not because we are just so overflowing with talent , because our record doesn’t show that , and we have a below avg o line just for one example. It’s about who Mcd continues to be willing to expose. Hey , cleveland has a pro bowl guard thanks to roster / talent evaluation mistakes. Did we ever explore trading someone like wildgoose,given he was destined to just be exposed every week on the PS? Maybe try getting an o lineman for a couple picks , like 5 th , 6 th , and seeing if we could get a 6 th or 7 th for guys who were never going to see the field this year? I am just thinking out loud , we have lost two players / pics this year for NOTHING. Time for Beane to reevaluate cherishing all his pics and reevaluating who we leave exposed ( I mean cbs, ol always seem to be in demand) and it shows it makes ,little sense holding on to future pics while you are in the run for HF / SB. Couple that with Brieda / boogie almost always being inactive, IMHO our roster management continues to be an area of concern esp when our 3 conference losses had coaching / roster/ adjustment issues. Not making any moves to address areas of weakness at the trade deadline just to hold onto late draft picks now seems silly when we have given two picks away for nothing so far this year ! Just a different way to look at things; throwing out some ideas and wonder if guys here have other creative solutions. Seems like we could manage this better than losing players for nothing in return.

Don’t look now but the Chiefs are also making a run ! It’s going to be a tight run to get to the playoffs in good shape, and thise games are going to be tough to win. Titans, Pats, Chiefs, Ravens, Steelers, , Bills. , maybe colts That’s why home field coujld be so huge! Shaping up to be a battle to get out of the AFC! Healthy , home teams that can run will be the competition. After today I hope Daboll keeps using Brieda and keeps the sweeps etc! Home field will be important like last year!

He has thrown some that should have been picked. I think the main reason is defensive guys with poor hands probably are not used to the velocity he throws with. Even Bills receivers had to adjust to that! So high velocity , ball-gets in you quickly in tight windows so harder to catch it and it’s an area he is less likely to get blindsided and just throw the ball up. Also shorter , quicker hitting routes so ball in the air less time for bad things to happen. Still think main thing is his velocity.

Moss may have been a bruiser in college , but #o far in his career in the NFL , he is the one getting bruised. He is not a huge , bruising Or fast back that strikes fear in NFL caliber players. He was out last year with injuries a few games , got benched for some reason the first game of the season which actually is hard to believe, and now is in the concussion protocol so obviously he was the guy who made the wrong business decision when it came to being hit on that play. He has 3-4 ok runs a game but can’t be counted on for short yardage so far. His best work has been in the screen game where he is dependable but he is not going to break away and be any consistent explosive play threat. The backs are one area where Beane has not done well. He has under valued them because of Dabolls dependence on the passing game . Mcd was not happy about the 9 carry running game in Jax and said that effort wouldn’t do as you at least have to make the d concerned about the run game. He mentioned or responded to a reporter saying this was the second time this type of low attempt execution happened and he said it was not acceptable. Sounds like he was in the middle of communicating things to his staff when he had to break for the presser, and he was going back right after to continue getting his thoughts across ( paraphrase). As he said, we can’t ignore the stones in our shoes and he was addressing the issues that need to be fixed relatively quickly. Reading between the lines, he was not going to accept the same type of game planning / play calling relying so much on Josh throwing. I would bet Daboll won’t be so inflexible about running facing the Jets. Moss may be out depending on the concussion protocol, and it would be a good time to try Williams. I hope Beane rethinks his satisfaction level with our backs. They don’t exactly scare people running in open space., and regardless of the o line, this is the second year watching other teams backs look more effective in short yardage and in the red zone than moss or singletary. After seeing Baltimore and even Tennessee replace their starters and still win or be competitive, it’s hard to believe we can’t find someone to challenge the 2.2 yard / carry our backs produced yesterday. It’s hard to find or replace interior lineman now , but our backs have a role in our lackluster run game as well. Why not kick the tires on someone, because if we sit still this years SB window appears to be slowly closing. ( the Steelers are making a comeback and how good is Harris helping revive Ben’s year and that offense ? Evidence that it’s worth using higher picks on quality backs)

True. Really poor play calling and play design. No creativity. No misdirection. No jet sweeps. Nothing but very vanilla , predictable patterns we have seen the past month , so you know Jax had plenty of film and showed they were well prepared. Josh certainly had a terrible game with poor decisions, reverting to the hero ball stuff (almost always refusing to hand the ball off on rpos and the jags were waiting for him !). Bill Cower even said it’s up to Daboll to reign Josh in by better play calling ( get away from the rpos) , and he said it’s imperative for the Bills to develop a run game as you can’t enter the playoffs as a one dimensional team. This type of game plan is going no where fast. Question is can Mcd exert some authority with Daboll, during his presser Mcd said 9 Carrie’s for 22 yards by the backs is not enough. Now will he do something about it !? With this line Daboll better get creative or this season will go downhill fast. The pats are a tough D , hard running team and now they are only 1/2 game back. Suddenly we are not the powerhouse everyone was making us out to be. The colts , pats , saints, Bucs are all built with good running games and I think we will have trouble with them. Josh needs help , he needs support from a running game because without it he reverts to hero ball and we see where that ends up. If I’m mcd , I bring up a back like Williams or I start looking at practice squads to grab a back that can run hard and help overcome the line issues. Our backs can’t overcome the line issues. Can’t just sit still or you;will get same results that we actually saw in last years afc championship game where the run blocking was terrible ( Williams looked terrible in that game and so did other lineman yet we just stuck with them as we failed in FA to get any help). Mcd had a poor game today. , crazy decisions like not trying a punt return at the end of the game,,,,, pretty unlikely to block a punt when they know you’re coming as opposed to getting a return as mckenzie at least has shown he can make it happen ! I’m keeping expectations low for now.

Singletary is no person to count on to build a good screen game around. First of all he has had several bad drops on screens In past games. He is so worried about catching and securing the ball now ( because of his fumble issues ) , that he catches the ball almost always as he is stationary. He is not already running so his YAC suffers. He also is now so worried about fumbling that he is carrying the ball with two hands and this slows a back who lacks burst and takes a few steps to build up to speed. Singeltary is what he is now. He is undersized , doesn’t break tackles well, isn’t being used at all in the red zone , and is only touching the ball 15 or less times every game. He was a 3 rd round talent for a reason. Our backs are what they are , very average , and they never seem to get hard yards when you really need them to. This is going back to both Mcd and Beane Refusing to draft a quality back when they had a chance but kept doubling down on drafting d lineman, whom at least a couple end up inactive every week. We have no ability to run the ball which is a reflection of the o line and average backs AND the unwillingness of the coach to try new personel. Why bring in breida when you never activate him ? Why keep any other RBS on the practice squad when again the staff won’t try replacing moss or singletary when they are almost adding nothing to our offense , and why does he keep ignoring the need to have a run game.? Pretty disappointing 4 weeks with loss to Titans and now this loss after shakey game against the fins. Screen game , misdirection would be good things but with this o line , sub par backs , and for some reason Dabols inability to have a creative game plan or adjust in game , that seems like a distant hope. If Dabol interviews for a head coaching Jin next year they will probably ask him to explain what happened in week 9 where they only scored 6 points ! Something is not right with Mcd and daboll in terms of a head coach allowing an OC to only call 7-10 runs in an entire game ! Let it sink In , Mcd just lost to a ROOKIE HEAD COACH STARTING A ROOKIE QB who had only 1 win! Doesn’t sound like a SB bound coaching staff or for reference , something. That happens to a good coach like belicheck as an example. Mcd needs to do some self reflection, and let’s see if he can get thru to the OC about screens etc. This was a very bad loss, team is currently playing with no passion (Hyde admitted they weren’t “ ready”), and maybe it s time to let them loose a little and come with some passion as opposed to not getting too high or too low. Now they keep coming out with no urgent sense of each game. Btw our backs had 9 carries and averaged 2.7 or less yards per carry! Wow. I will say tho injuries are mounting and i even posted about how we couldn’t take the jag lightly ( I live down here and. Have seen the bills lose before here plus jags ended Kelly’s career in one playoff loss )@nd was worried all the o line shifts were concerning. Can’t. Just keep going further down the roster and expect it not to hurt. Then throw in Beasley hurting , losing our nickel cb, losing moss, Knox being out , white getting hurt ( tasker mentioned he had a concussion which is new to me ?) and you eventually can’t have enough quality guys on the field. Well , will see as in presser Mcd noted 9 carries for 22 yards by the backs and said that not enough. Will he reign in daboll is the real issue now. Mcd looked pretty exhausted and emotionless; feel bad for him but it’s up to him and his culture to not allow this to continue !

I understand your points. What 6 th round pick from this years draft is doing anything on our roster THIS YEAR ? Ingram is not top tier elite RIGHT NOW, BUT WAS BEFORE AND CAN FLASH AT TIMES , but neither is the guy from Denver that was put as a complimentary piece for Donald. However, Ingram was good enough to help contribute to us losing to Pittsburgh and he can be a complimentary piece to someone like jones and ford in KC. Watch and see. You can always possibly do something to get a 6 th round pick back before the next year. When your roster is going to have little change over because you have most of your base talent filled , going for known talent cheaply is more likely to impact your roster currently. You can’t keep the same Old thinking of stocking late round draft picks for the future while holes in the current roster prevent you from a title NOW! Bills are not filling roster spots NOW with cheap 6 th round picks. They are also 6 th round picks for a reason. Unlikely to even make the future roster. Not talking about giving up early picks like first two rounds. It’s a no brainer to give a 6th for a guy like Ingram. Not sure I would have given up what LA did with their move for the DE from Denver, but their d roster is arguably better than ours and adding to Donald and Ramsey while the Rams look like a possible one seed makes a lot of sense. Have to look at each move individually and I bet that move pays off. Why shoikd the Bills hold onto some “ potential pick” for the 2022 season when you have o line and Arguably still issues getting sacks when everyone is touting how you are a Super Bowl contender THIS YEAR? We are almost a shoo-in for our division and trying to land a 1 seed with a bye and home field advantage. How many years does that scenario set up? Heck, The pats and the others could make big moves by next year and suddenly we are in a battle for the wild card , not the #1 seed! My point is make a move for THIS SCENARIO THIS YEAR BEcause it is so unique. Also just as likely for a street FA to make the roster as a 6 th round pick is with our roster. 🤔😊