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Man ,I feel for the OP; 10 straight preseason wins and then this total game and social debacle! Hope the pregame provided a wonderful experience , and that you got out of there with little harassment and some good friendships ! I was just listening on Sirius and it was still a boring , painful experience ! Lol ! You even endured a lightning delay! What an experience; one of those “ Billsy”:type deals! Still betting the positive outweighed the negative , so hope you got safely home. If I may , it reminds me of my SB 28 experience! Took my parents , met the new Jags owner , Wayne weaver , at the NFL Experience! Lead at halftime , so far so good! Then Tt fumbles , cowboys grab the lead and it all goes south. Get harassed walking out by Cowboy loyal fans. Last live Bills game I ever attended with my father who Later passed from lymphoma. Go to the Atlanta airport to fly back to Jacksonville and at the gate , who is standing right in front of me but Bisquit , Cornelius Bennett ! Easy to recognize. So this was his 4 th SB loss ( my second SB As I went to 27 the prior year ). I was thinking , hey.say hello, thank him for years of great entertainment and pride as a fan! Big dude compared to me. Right before I got the ciurage to say hi , he goes into a verbal , loud tirade at the gate counter because he was flying out to the pro bowl and he was bumped from the flight as it was full ! He goes into the voicing of “ Do you know who I am , do you realize I just lost in the Super Bowl, and more nice things ! Neeless to say , no introduction or autograph request from me as I cowered behind him! Lol! So close yet he might have already been in Hawaii ! Started out well as such a promising trip ! Now a 4 th SB loss and a player who I loved watching being human and melting down two feet away! Still tho some fond memories, and I hope the OP still had a great time ! Find that silver lining and keep the faith! Go Bills and best wishes! 😀🍸

Do the names Vick , Lewis , Watson, beast mode, Antonio brown, Terrell Owens , Michael Irvin , the Vikings r b who whipped his children with cords ring any bells for you? Pretty sure public opinion didn’t keep them out of the if you got talent , you can play league. Hey owners with happy endings, and those videoing cheer leaders changing , and coaches with volumes of racial emails still made it back in the league! If contrite , a talented virtual baby first offender will most likely play again. Our country tends to give second chances if someone is accountable and sincerely apologetic and seeks personal redemption/ change. If a recidivist sociopath like Brown got several chances , I am going to believe if found guilty yet contrite , he has so much talent his career is still salvageable. If Watson can still walk out on field after 66 cases , I think Ariza , while facing a tough path , could recover. Now if found criminally guilty , his punting skills may not be enough to overcome such despicable behavior. Never say never! 😉😊 Do the names Vick , Lewis , Watson, beast mode, Antonio brown, Terrell Owens , Michael Irvin , the Vikings r b who whipped his children with cords ring any bells for you? Pretty sure public opinion didn’t keep them out of the if you got talent , you can play league. Hey owners with happy endings, and those videoing cheer leaders changing , and coaches with volumes of racial emails still made it back in the league! If contrite , a talented virtual baby first offender will most likely play again. Our country tends to give second chances if someone is accountable and sincerely apologetic and seeks personal redemption/ change. If a recidivist sociopath like Brown got several chances , I am going to believe if found guilty yet contrite , he has so much talent his career is still salvageable. If Watson can still walk out on field after 66 cases , I think Ariza , while facing a tough path , could recover. Now if found criminally guilty , his punting skills may not be enough to overcome such despicable behavior. Never say never! 😉😊

Good post, thx for thoughtful input!

All fair points. Let’s allow all facts to come out. Is a 21 year old responsible for expecting friends to act like most decent people usually react. I know my friends back At that age I hung with would never act that terribly and I would trust them if I left a room. In fact my friends in undergrad did watch over some women friends who drank a little too much and had they sexually acted out , why would I be responsible.for them if I was absent and not watching it go down? If he watched without reporting it , then yes he would be just as guilty asan accomplish. Choose your friends wisely. I was hoping to get into Med school back then and when you know your career depends on being squeaky clean , you just can’t associate with people who lack appropriate judgement. Just like a career in the nfl , it’s that competitive and any negative marks are useD to weed out the field. Matt might be learning a costly life lesson , but he deserves his side to be heard out. If found civically guilty, then perhaps an arbitrator can help the bills in their resolution. There might be something positive out of this if let’s say like Michael Vick , he continues his career but becomes an advocate so more young men don’t make similar bad choices. Im just saying , let’s take some time and maybe helping him might be making lemonade from the worst lemons, while still not being dismissive to the poor victim. Just cutting him may not help in the long game. It’s analogous to helping someone overcome addiction even knowing they have harmed others along the way. Just a thought.

Not true. He Denys gulit but the female judge / arbitrator stated he committed the acts. Sorry but his lack of contrition is not lack of guilt. If she didn’t find him guilty , how could she legally have dispensed any penalties despite how light they were and ended with heavier appeals. He was found guilty , he just continues to deny it in his own mind. She expressly said she found he committed the actions he was accused of. That, my friend is being convicted of guilty behavior or she would have had to dismiss any requirements for him to sit out ANY games. The NFLPA accepted that ruling. The nfl appealed for stiffer penalties surrounding his guilt, and he was found guilty, convicted , and will serve stiffer punishment. Non conviction or innocence and he would be playing without suspension and a 5 mil$ fine!

Looks like he acquitted himself well and must have felt confident to do so. Better the third string qb risk any injury over our first string , harder to replace fg specialist as we look for a season preserving future solution. Imagine if he got hurt by a block attempt in a preseason game ; suddenly you have two specialists to replace in under two weeks , whereas Barkley is not expected to hit the field ! 😊

What exactly is “ classy” about denying due process in a matter that happened while not under any Bills or NFL JURISDICTION? How is rash emotional decision makinG BEFORE ALL FACTS ARE IN , INTERPRETED as classy and when is a subjective term like classy the basis of any court or legal precedents ? Please present documentation, not just your personal opinion. We are a society of due process and laws and what benefit is gained “ throwing a young adult “ under the bus “ ? Will that change the past or POSSIBLY JUST harm or create an additional victim? Shouldn’t we act responsibly , like adults with life experience and protect all vulnerable young adults , who are those most likely to make mistakes as they grow and mature? Doesn’t the law exist to protect us all , allow for punishment based on facts , precedent , peer judgement , and allow for rehabilitation after paying restitution if found guilty? Show me where the word classy appears in the Comstitution or Bill of rights , and please offer proof how your opinion should take precedent over our founding fathers time stood principals. Please provide example of your legal training and expertise in such case law. Young lives and futures are at stake and proper protocol is the precedent and most good corporations have legal teams guiding them , not just bowing to public definition of “ being classy” ! Just striking out emotionally is third world , dictatorial behavior and we can’t give in to mass hysteria behavior / mob rule just because you have an opinion on what is a non legal term, classy! Why not take appropriate time ( I seem to remember a certain qb case going on for two years now and has resulted in said qb being found guilty yet still eligible to play , rehab a career, get 230 mil$ and had 26 civil cases he settled , so it seems logical time and following the rule of law coukd be used to fairly solve one more case !). If you don’t agree , get involved in local politics , elect appropriate representation, become an attorney or judge , become a police officer , etc to effect positive change not just spout out non srnsical terms like “ classy thing to do “. You can even boycott a team or sport as your right , but you have no right ti act as a virtual signaling internet troll and expect serious adults to value such biased , emotionally based suggestion for action. I know I can say you don’t speak for me personally , and I hope my Bills team follows the laws and acts fairly for ALL INVOLVED. Certainly there is some midi ground like a temporary leave while investigating the facts. Just knee jerk quick action won’t change the past but could add more harm. Time is an ally and adds clarity. If found guilty after due process , I am all for severing any future connection to the young man and I pray he uses this life lesson to better himself and even help young men in the future. I firmly know I am not perfect and have learned to be a better man , dr, and spouse over 65 years of life. I believe thru life experience we are all capable of positive change and hope most deserve a second chance after human mistakes are committed ( excluding non remorseful murderers or refractory mentally Ill individuals). Classy is some term resolved for social status or elitism at the country club , and has no legal basis; it is just an emotional plea based in subjectivity. I remain open to actual written teachings / arguments in law proving otherwise. A single opinion lacks credibility and if Mcd / Beane come out and say we did the classy thing to do , that’s when I quit following the Bills under their leadership. Best wishes , nothing personal , just expressing my opinion and logic behind it. 😉👍

Most ridiculous generalization post I have seen. Sounds like projection imo. Of course he should be judged immediately based on your vast investigation of the case. The NFL has no jurisdiction in this and a true scum bag in Watson is still furthering his career with a guaranteed 230 million $ payout and his owners are supporting him while he still refuses to admit any guilt. Yet you want a 21 yo college kid to be judged and prohibited from any future without any trial or ruling just based on your emotional reaction. I have extensive training in DV, abuse , child abuse, etc , and have Been involved in cases in court and because IMO he deserves all the facts to come out and his day in court , that makes me someone who condones all sports of crimes in your words. what makes your opinion any more worthwhile than anyone else suggesting he deserves his day in court? Very narcissistic of you and actually very delusional , immature , and narrow minded. I guess our constitution and our country is also guilty of condoning criminal behavior thenas that’s what you are putting forth!a!? Funny , I am originally from south eastern Ohio ( around Steubenville) , and when I grew up there , people were open minded , intelligent , hard working , kind people who practiced fairness. You want to live in some realm of absolutes I guess and unless this is just sarcasm , you may have missed out on attending one of the great universities available in the state as this type of analysis is more in line with someone lacking in finishing their primary education. But you know he is a scumbag yet probably know nothing of his family , background , and couldn’t pick him out of a lineup if you were pressed. At worst , if he would even settle and no criminal charges are filed , then he deserves the consequences and if met , he would deserve a second chance in life because basically he is still barely an adult. You know there are tons of examples of worse in the NFL ( Ray Lewis involved in mirder ring a bell as just one example, who is in the Hof ). No one is condoning sexual assault, but let’s not condone lynching and vigilantism as normal behavior that is any more desirable. If you have such great conviction, go to law school , become a judge, become a police officer , do some actual good than just being a virtue signaling internet troll. Throwing a blanket judgement On those who believe in our system of the rule of law just makes your thought process suspect and irrelevant. Funny, I usually expect more from the great people of eastern Ohio who are great Steel workers , miners, and some of the best people I have met and roots I am usually proud of. Hey , OU is in that area , check out some courses after you finish your primary education. 😀😉. Thank God there are many more level headed people from the area that brought us Dean Martin ! Haha! Good luck with being such a worldly, analytical thinking person in your future endeavors. Go Bills and go Buckeyes ( and bobcats and my Toledo Rockets and Wittenberg tigers !). ( please don’t get me wrong, if proven to have done this he is a scumbag and no argument. All I am saying is it’s simplistic and wrongful to label people who just are arguing for letting the legal process to be allowed to move forward. That’s how we have a society and how our great country , the Best in the world if you ask someone like a wnba player imprisoned in Russia right now, handles things. Just because someone argues for fair process does not make them a scumbag by association. If proven by those responsible given that responsibility to investigate and judge, it is vile and I agree not someone I would want on the team. Just saying we have to let our system work; it looks bad right now but it is not IMPOSSIBLE there is more to the story, and trying to be impartial should not result in character assassination. BEST wishes during this highly emotional situation. Again, prayers fir all families DIRECTLY involved and I hope these young lives are not permanently ruined ).

That’s awesome , hope you have a great night and stay safe with your fellow Bills Mafia as the preseason closes. Would love to read your thoughts on players, roster implications, etc after you finish enjoying the game! Go Bills!

Let’s slow down. This kid has been upstanding through out his career and comes from a very good family. He is innocent until some civil or criminal conviction happens. His attorney stated they have multiple witnesses she was saying she was 18 and was not showing signs of intoxication. This could have been a consensual act with someone posing to be 18 or nothing at all could have happened. If she went to a hospital , a rape work up with dna / rape,kit / specimens should have been obtained with records and she would have been treated with meds for exposure to stds and hiv prophylaxsis and plan b etc. Hard to fathom how this just shows up coincidentally now with no prior red flags or smoke signals. Hospitals would surely have security videos to review as well as possible other video cameras in the area. I find it unlikely this could have been hidden from the Bills as they supposedly are very thorough in pre draft investigations. Using common sense , hard to believe with someone of his stature and fame there were no Prior warnings and no trace of abnormal behaviors until now. Just watching his biography on you tube a couple of weeks ago , he just seems to have always been a very driven , family and goal oriented young man. Could he have made an error or mistake as a young man , sure it’s possible, but he is innocent for now. He is not on the level of Watson with serial offenses as the worst case scenario. His attorney seems very certain of his client so I am willing to hold off any judgement, esp since saying they have witnesses testimony saying she was aware and not intoxicated. If some hard evidence like video or positive dna / etc shows up , the it’s a different story. This is one solitary case , so it should be easy to eventually be proven one way or the other. Also with other co defendants , someone will talk for a deal if it did occur to save themselves. Again , not a solo spree like Watson and three guys being involved should make it easier to find inconsistent facts or stories if this actusllly happened. For now, let’s let the process work out and he doesn’t deserve judgement at this point. If Watson deserves a second chance , certainly a young man like this also deserves to accept responsibility and a chance for redemption if this is proven. The truth will eventually come out , so currently he deserves his presumption of innocence as you would demand if he was your own son or family. If there was very solid , proven documentation , it s hard to believe nothing was filed until now. Remember how the Duke Guys lives were ruined and later vindicated when it looked so obvious they were guilty? His attorney said she was not alone and It seems illogical she was there without friends. So personally I am willing to let it play out as we let the civil process move forward. Stop the hate speech about how “ we don’t tolerate this in Buffalo unlike Cleveland “. Many on here have supported MARSHAWN to this day and he has been proven to commit actions placing lives at risk in more than one situation! This is an initial episode , and it’s still very cloudy and he deserves the benefit of the doubt at this point. People on here still talk about wanting to bring in the sociopath Antonio Brown , so let’s temper the pitch fork mentality for the time being. There are many examples of people using the legal system as their lottery as we were inundated daily with attorney advertisements encouraging suing for almost anything. Time to trust our good Gm Beane and staff to solve this within the appropriate legal channels and all we ever hear on here is how much people “ TRUST IN Beane” regarding the type of players he brings in and culture he has established. I believe Beane / Mcd evaluate character heavily and I trust their process as it’s proven reliable so far. This is the American system of justice and he deserves his side to be heard and then let the burden of proof fall as it may. Amber Heard is just one example of the me too movement being placed above actual reality and being misused , and so I chose to support him until proven otherwise, especially since he has been an upstanding young man with a supportive family his entire life. If he somehow faltered , he is so young he deserves help and a shot at redemption if he accepts responsibility ( unlike Watson who still says he did no wrong and continues to lack personal insight , yet he will be playing I the NFL later this year ! ) Prayers for both the young woman and for our punter that they both move on in life and I hope heal with time, and the legal system resolves this fairly resulting in both learning, surviving , and going on to lead productive lives.

Yesterday pat mcafee was talking about possibly returning! He actually went to training camp and kicked 32 balls , and said the last twenty were good and he felt ha hadn’t lost anything. He is seeing it as a “:sign”:, and possibly a reason to listen to his heart to return. He has a great relationship with Irsay , and said if colts were interested he would consider putting his YouTube career on hold as he is based in Indy already ! Not joking about this , was really contemplating this! Would have to work on deals with fanduel , othe sponsors , and he was concerned about all his Pittsburgh guys working with him who have all started home remodels etc. Hawk was supportive on the show as well. I couldn’t believe it but he was very serious. This Haack signing may end that fantasy tho. Macafee is apparently close friend with the punter who tore his Achilles and thought this might be a “ calling” to place sit for, help the guy out while rehabbing! I doubt it would happen but he did go to training camp , got their gear , and did apparently kick 32 balls for them. I can’t see putting a thriving YouTube career on hold just to go back to punt but these pros may miss the game after awhile. Crazy stuff, plus he would have to get clean I think from weed ( tho I’m not sure they screen for that any longer)! I really don’t think he was joking but hard to tell with him. He actually said he would think about it seriously this next week. He is probably still a better punter than Haack. Just a fyi little tidbit if you didn’t see his short about it on YouTube yesterday ! 😊😎

I said the exact same thing while watching with the shout is group. Heidi all over but then they came back to split screen! Only the Bills!

Check out the YouTube video by The officer Tatum. He is a prior police officer ,author now, conservative black male who started blexit with Candace owens, has spoken all over the country as a black male debating issues like athletes such as kapernick claiming they are oppressed etc.and he has been invited to the Whjte house during the Trump administration. I just mention that because he is not just some talking head with no life experience , as he has over a million YouTube subscribers and I have found him to be very fair about police shootings and police brutality issues etc. He has been there and done that so imho his input has perhaps more validity than talking heads and places like TMZ. HE USUALLY never comments on a situation without researching it thoroughly first. I think he tends to take a very common sense approach to iisues , and he was a prior div 1 saftey who aspired to play in the NFL , but was sidetracked by injuries. He played in the pac 10 I think , at either Arizona or Arizona State, so he also can relate as an athlete. He is also a devoted father and husband. He showed the entire video of Lynch’s arrest ( with his car missing the entire front wheel down to the brake calipers! ). He stated you just have to be in control of the vehicle to be accountable for a dui. He explained that means having ACCESS TO THE KEYS , BEING BEHIND THE WHEEL , BUT THE CAR DOESNT HAVE TO BE ON AND THE KEYS DONT HAVE TO BE IN THE IGNITION. LOOK UP “ FORMER NFL STAR MARSHAWN LYNCH ARRESTED FOR DUI” on “The officer Tatum “ posted on YouTube on 8/12. I would trust his analysis as he has arrested people as a police officer before in similar situations. I.can’t see how he gets off from this after watching the situation and having a police officer explain the process. Plus Lynch refused to get out of the car and was informed politely by the officer if he didn’t get out of the car , he would also be arrested for. obstruction. I think officer Tatum also offered good tips about avoiding duis that would be good info for young adults to view coming from someone who is very easy to relate to. He was very fair speaking about lynch in this situation May be worth the 9 min to view the video if you haven’t seen it , especially if you believe lynch will get off. I don’t know Tatum personally ( he is the nephew of former Raider , Jack Tatum as well , so he also has that tie to the NFL) but have followed him on YouTube and watched his career take off. Pretty impressive career turn around for a guy whose main dream growing up was to be in the NFL. REGARDLESS OF HOW LIKABLE Lynch may be at times , seeing how impaired he was , the damage to the car, and his prior history of breaking the law , he should lose any sponsorships and the NFL should quit using him for promotions etc. He could have killed an innocent person / persons and I wish him luck attaining sobriety while also vowing to never support any products he is associated with in the future. He is a flawed character and it may take quite a bit of adversity for him to ever be accountable for his behavior that has placed innocent lives at risk; imho not a joking matter any longer. Everyone deserves second , third chances , but at somE point you actually have to demonstrate you are sincerely changing, and obtaining and maintaining sobriety is not some unreasonable or unobtainable behavior. Best wishes, hope the video was worth your time if you chose to check it out! 😊👍

How is it more tolerable, exactly ? Unless your starting qb tears it after finishing the Super Bowl , the season result is pretty much affected the same way. There is no way to protect against a non contact injury, I don’t care wtf game it is. 😉 Guess you would suggest/ support all starting qbs to only walk / run while on the field in regular or post season games !? Pretty funny ! 😀. Just kidding around , but the preseason didn’t injure Wilson. Plus if Allen doesn’t see the field at all , esp after last years opening Pittsburgh great game , I would bet this o will look like they never played against real competition for a couple of games. Allen will do as told , but already stated he preferred to play some in the preseason. It’s his job, his career, and he likes playing it knowing the risks. If the firs team doesn’t play together at all before the first game and they lose , I am sure you would never be critical and all those predicting Super Bowl will just be quiet and never criticize Mcd for sitting them ! 🤣 This is not last years NFL’ s easiest schedule and the d won’t be facing a bunch of bottom feeding qbs ! Just saying , with all the hype , I can’t see most fans being happy if they look out of sync early , drop a few against a rough schedule , and then being ok with Mcd having not allowed the first units to play any in preseason. It’s not like the Covid Season where ALL THE TEAMS started on equal ground. Lots of starters have already seen reps in games. I don’t know , are the Rams not playing any starters in preseason? 😎

Hey buddy , hope you’re good ! I saw the live video of the guy who calls himself the “ thigh doctor”. Didn’t act or seem like a real doc to me. He was on with a Stethoscope listening to his thigh ( not exaggerating). Was also dancing around in shorts that he hiked up trying to show off his thigh development. Seemed more like a knowledgeable PT guy to me with rehab experience. If he is a real MD , I am surprised and apologetic , as some people just want to be influencers now as a career, and heck , it might pay more! Pretty laughable as I thought after 42 years in medicine, I had seen quite a bit! 😀😎🍸I just turned 65 on 7/30 and am finally retiring because of failed neck surgery , but keeping all my credentials active my friend. It’s hard to give that up after a lifetime wanting to get there ! Just saw a poll on Fox News that only 30% of the public trust Drs now , ( not hard to figure out why, guys like Pierre Cory MD who saved thousands of pts and is extensively published , is having his boards threatened by the ABIM for his work on a certain Nobel prize winning medicine etc while mandates of things keep happening , eroding trust in science , so maybe not a bad time to get out ). Then I saw a certain attractive female chiro with several thousand followers on YouTube treating a twitch E girl ( who posted her income as over 1.5 mil$ per month just from her only fans site alone !) , for “ sinusitis and allergies “ by “ manipulating “ her maxillary and frontal sinuses, and that’s allowed to still be posted and monetized !😊I did hundreds of flexible nasolaryngoscopies in the office and I never could figure out how to physically move/ manipulate a sinus non surgically.! 🤣😉. YouTube must be paying well , better than insurance companies ! So we get football players prognosis by YouTube and allergies treated by “ manipulation “ ! No wonder the public doesn’t know who to trust ! But yeah , the guy seemed entertaining and like a good Bills fan , but didn’t have the typical , serious and professional demeanor I think most might expect from an ortho. Just wanted to say hello and Hope your career is going good ; cherish it as from my experience , time goes too fast! 😊. I really wish you enjoyment and continued success in your career as a colleague and fellow Bills fan. Hope to chat more about the Bills as the season rolls along! Will enjoy watching all the games Saturday , Bills have a tough opening reg season schedule and the o line , new OC, ? About our cb’s and maybe Poyer early are some red flags for me especially after that opening Pittsburgh game last year. Indy will be tough even in the preseason, but not sure how much either team will show things Saturday given we play again in the regular season I believe. Nfl network said last year we had the easiest schedule in the NFL ( based on ending wL records) and we still ended up 11-6 ( their words not mine ! ) Does make me take those rose colored glasses off till we actually see real action; the afc is going to be really tough and McDermott needs to finally prove he can avoid stretches of lulls this year and step up his performance come playoff time as it’s not exactly been stellar other than the New England game! It really does showcase why Marv is a hof coach despite the SB losses as it’s just so hard to even get there. ( this post was solely replying to my friend mr weo and not intended as any medical opinion, just answering his question about the “ thigh doctor’s “ video analysis concerning Tre white after he watched him work out on video and he did make some interesting observations about mobility and whites ability to jump and land on the affected leg ) Stay safe and healthy! 👍

Maybe other positions , but I think it’s hard to argue that most qbs have their best years in the league as a rookie ! Usually the exact opposite, ala Peyton Mannijg etc. This is one time I would respectfully ask for real life examples, excluding Guys whose career lasted more than a year. For example it wouldn’t be proof of that thesis if you throw in career scrubs like Rosen or peterman. What legit , franchise, long term starting qb had their best year as a rookie in the modern era? Most either sit for the majority if their rookie year or suffer from interceptions and low completion percentage. They improve as they learn to read defenses , despite teams trying to take away their strengths ,because if they didn’t , they wouldn’t last as starting / franchise qbs. Their development may not be linear , but it sure isn’t trending down in their subsequent years or they are replaced. Ask mayfield, Darnold, Rosen,,,,,,,oh yeah,,,,,they are all with new teams, replaced because they have physical deficiencies, not because defenses have film on them now. These guys all have avg or below arm strength and they are immobile ( mayfield less so , but less mobile than Watson on a massage table ). By that logic , Brady should never be able to complete a pass or win again as there’s endless film on him. He , and in a similar fashion, Jones , will continue to be productive because they Also study tendencies and film and they have success because of intelligence, countless hours of film study , and despite teams having an abundance of film; they read the d and get the ball to the open guys on time . I’m sure if you asked they are better now than they were as rookies. So , yeah , prove to us who these qbs are in real life who had their best years as rookies and are still more than journeyman qbs ! 😀😊

Hard to see him not getting more sacks, picks, etc when now you have a future Hof player leading the d, and better d lineman in front of him at almost ever position. Only one way to go and I don’t think they record negative numbers or missed opportunities all that accurately. 😊 Hey , maybe he will lead the league in “ pass elevations” as a new stat ! It’s just like all the great arguments that passes are never thrown in the middle because he is so good, and of course it’s hard to prove a negative premise. I think the one real measurable is he is working on his 5 th year option and not a lucrative contract when Beane seems to find ways to sign big names/ impact p,Ayer’s he wants regardless of the cap. That is at least tangible. Is there really a huge doubt that he is probably the player that if off the field / injured , that most fans won’t believe our SB chances plummet because he is so irreplaceable!? Take Milano off the field and this D struggke. Poyer is much more impactful , he just wasn’t a high draft pick and is getting on the wrong side of 30, yet I still bet Beane does something to keep him happy and I bet that happens before anything else with edmunds. This is his last year as a Bill IMO, There are faster , younger LBs who can cover ( how many picks has he had , 2 in 4 years? , and he lacks PBU’s “;because they don’t throw in his area” ( because they throw frosding routes in front of him as he always drops deeply and he lets wrs come to him and many times long 3 rd downs get converted as it’s hard to remember how many times he has blown up a guy after they catch in front of him, which may also account for his lack of impressive FF numbers given his anazing “ size/ speed combination”! Great kid , but he is never mentioned with all the great Bills LBs like , Talley , Bennett, Conlan, Spikes, Spielman and even Ray Bentley was a harder hitter than Edmunds. He will never be mentioned with great LBs like Lewis, Taylor, Urlacher etc, which is amazing given he is the QB of a supposed #1 D! The Bills won’t make that mistake again of drafting a Lb in round one , and just look to this year as they drafted Bernard and they don’t seem extremely concerned about their Lb depth should edmunds be out for any period. He is a good player , good scheme fit, but his production will be replaced with a more cost effective version next year imo unless he has a career year of real plays, not based on imaginary plays that didn’t happen because teams game planned to avoid running thru his zone coverage. Great character man, one of the least instinctive 6’5” LBs in Bills history. I would love to see how this D looks with a real “ Jack Lambert”:mentality mindset who plays the part and isn’t out there just cuz he looks like he should be tough. Hard to trust it’s suddenly going to all click now after 4 years. When you hear hoof Beats and turn around , it’s usually a horse and not a zebra , right? 😉 It is what it is, he is who we think he is by now most likely. He is more cliche than wall of fame candidate. One thing is certain, the time for excuses has passed. ( yet I wonder the over / under on how many times we will hear “ he is still so young” ? Time to let him.grow up on someone else’s SB window! )

Searched and didn’t see this as a topic? Apparently hurt ribs in car accident, out for early part of camp and Trey officially starts on pup. Sorry if posted earlier , didn’t show up in search. Delete if duplicate. Not a great way to start the new o lines chemistry. Sounds minor but sometimes rib injuries can show as fractures later on films. Schedule is very tough early , beginning of season will be big challenge given many moving , new pieces.

D missed multiple tackles at crucial times , at one point I think 5-6 guys hit and failed to wrap up a wide receiver on a critical third and long ( pretty sure Talley and Bennett and a couple of corners / a safety also whiffed on that play ) and it led to a go ahead td. Bruce failing to get a safety / or fumble early in the game allowing Hostetler to escape ( Bruce admitted this several times, plus we allowed a back up qb to beat us along with being unable to stop Anderson ) is another of the things that should have happened and were usually/ probably statistically easier than a relatively long ( at that time , ‘91, ) fg with the clock expiring and Super Bowl title at stake. Plus during that last drive they ( Bills ) mismanaged the clock some and I believe Thurman has talked about that and stated they should have run one more play ( or he went down earlier than he could have , sorry my memory is fading as I turn 65 on 7/30!) and they could / should have gotten a few yards closer. Norwood had been struggling during the last few games ( hence Christy coming in the next year, ending Norwoods career) as well, so those few extra yards were important, and the time management issue was either on the O or coaching staff. Yes, Norwoood was to blame ultimately for missing the kick , but it was a team underperforming ( after dropping 51 on the Raiders 2 weeks earlier ) that caused them to be in that position in the first place. They were out coached , and the guys like Bennett, Kelly , etc also admitted to being out enjoying the Tampa nightlife the night before as well. You know all this , so imho it’s hard to blame Norwood as the “ main” reason for that loss. Bills were the better team , having beaten the Giants earlier in the regular season as well, so it was a culmination of crap, not just that missed kick that cost them the win. If he had made the FG, would you say then he was the main reason for winning? I would bet against people saying that. Just like 13 seconds, hard to blame on one person ( as Wallace has been scapegoated quite a bit, or the special teams coach) when things fall apart and turn an almost certain W to an L ! 😉🥲. Lol ! Probably the two worst memories ( music city miracle is right there too ) in Bills history. Have a good 4 th tho ! 🍸🍸

Thx for the documentation with those pics. Hey I’m all for looking your best and feeling good psychologically because of that , and hair treatment is so vast and easy now it’s almost a shame to let young men experience hair loss as it can be prevented. But doing all the other plastic things like the cheek implants ( wow , are those evident in that top left pic or what? ) , lifts , and fillers can come with risks , and in his case it actually has detracted from his natural handsome appearance. That facial structure on the left reminds me of the Joker’s smile from Batman! Hey if that’s what it takes for the goat to feel confident , then it is what it is ! I just don’t get fighting time tho when you have had an amazing career, beautiful wife and family , and guaranteed to transition from one career to another safely without having to fight your way up from the bottom again. For someone who is almost worshipped by so many , it just means he is as human and insecure as the rest of us; hopefully the plastic surgeons he sees remain ethical because obviously there are those out there that only money and doing things on celebs is how they seek their own rep and success and they could use their vast talents for so many other better causes. He is not old at all ( except in pro football years) and it’s kind of sad seeing him subject himself to that.

Josh might look “ chunky” compared to Brady but while sitting at the post match interview, you see his pecs and overall frame are just much larger than the other the qbs , and I’m pretty sure after seeing Dawkins comments about Josh hitting the off-season weight training, that’s prob just more muscle mass there ! That’s how he runs thru LBs and cbs, and is something Brady has no idea about because he has never trucked anyone in his career; same thing with Rodgers as he avoids contact and whines for flags if a LB “ breeze”knocks him over like JJ Watt was talking about ! ( Watt was a good commentator and would be better than Brady I bet ,,,also they should get Barkley on one of the week play game crews; he may not know football but he is a pro athlete and he is funny as hell ! Now that would help ratings ! The NFL needs someone who is irreverent like Chuck on a crew !) The post interview was pretty good tv. Earnie is a class guy, great interviewer! Well , hopefully this added loss will fuel Josh to be better than all of them when / if they meet this coming year. Would rather he have the last say on the football field than get “ The Match “ bracelet ! He def wasn’t on his golf game but hey, he has just arrived from OTA’s , so that’s not too surprising. So hopefully he will be fired up when he is back in his element where he can actually dominate, and pay these guys back for today as Josh was very humble throughout the whole day. ( Josh is very respectful , burns no bridges off the field! I would have given Brady some crap,,,he looks like he has had cheek implants to combat the aging effects where that area of our face sags with time. His lateral cheek bones were really prominent and I bet he has started with an early lift as well because his eye folds look narrowed or lifted toward the temples. Would love to see a plastic surgeon compare his face over time as it looked like a very obvious change to me ; check out cheek implants on YouTube with a plastic surgeon and see what you think. I think with his wife being a model, the new TV contract looming , he is getting ready for Hollywood! That culture is crazy and the antithesis of “ football” culture, and Tommy may be gradually being headed that way 😉😀. Have to admit I loved Rodgers comment asking Brady , “ Have you ever gotten paid so much for giving back !? Lol! Classic line! ). Josh is physically on a different level than these guys and I hope it finally pays off for him.

He’s playing with custom clubs. No one at this level plays with clubs that aren’t custom fitted clubs. 👍😊

Think of walking away from what you love , what is your life’s passion and has been the sole driving force for most of your life since childhood perhaps. Then throw in a lifestyle very few ever get to experience as you are treated like royalty by fans. , and all the travel and things you get to do for free and all while getting special treatment. Finally throw in the millions of dollars you get accustomed to earning and all the other earning opportunities thrown in along the way that all helps set up your family for generations. How do you give that up if you are still healthy enough to play , knowing many guys still are not even as good as you are at even 85% of what you might have been in your twenties ? Plus these guys are not old , and their bodies are not broken like players from the earlier decades. They get a short break from being sore or in pain ( pain is a great equalizer , you may be a tough person but pain can reach levels that when it’s there daily it clouds thinking and it’s hard to imagine being able to just move normally and it just wears you down. Take that away and you are back to being you , back to seeing hope! You get back to experiencing the joy of looking ahead to each day again!) and now they remember how high the highs are competing at the best , most popular sport in the world ! Do I want to quit that to face uncertainty, going to a regular mundane career , or career just talking about how great that sport is that I know I could still do? Look at your own life ; if you were lucky enough to live your dream , do your career with joy at a high level , would you give it up in your late 30’s , knowing once you quit it will never be available to you again? It’s different if it’s taken from you because of injury , disability, or illness. Then you have no choice and it’s a different mindset. But walk away by choice after a lifetime of hoping and dreaming and then succeeding and if you still say that would be easy , I wouldn’t believe you. I would think you were naive because you had never experienced giving all that up in real life, by choice, just walking away! I would want to talk to you a year later and see how you felt then. Remember , no injury , no illness , you just walk away from your passion, not some job you settled for but one you spent your life fighting to be in and loved and it paid Better than almost any other profession ( plus no pressure like being a pilot, a surgeon, in the military or police where others lives or your own were at risk daily etc,,,,,playing a sport for entertainment) and just knowing human nature concerning driven , successful people, I would bet you would be second guessing your decision. That’s all these guys are doing and why would you be critical of them because it ‘“ exhausts “ you !? Haha! If that exhausts you, you are too caught up in others lives and still have some growing to do ,,,,as we all do ! 😉😊

I respectfully disagree only because he has been ingrained to be PC during his entire career , especially under Belicheck.. He has this squeaky clean image ( in his eyes) and I can’t see him delivering actual criticism or being truthful when players or coaches are performing poorly. He is so used to just spouting the company line as the QB , I think he will have a difficult time ever really delivering critical or an honest assessment of situations where teams are performing less than they capable of or expected to given their talent levels. Can you honestly say you expect him to be critical of his fellow QBs that he has spent 20 years being a contemporary of ? I think he is so conscious of his reputation and how people look at him that all I expect is a very vanilla , always providing “ positive” analysis or spouting cliches about how difficult it is to make certain reads etc, and I would be shocked if he can be openly critical of coaching decisions because he is about relationships as he continues to promote his TB 12 brand , and I think he will be timid as he will never want to burn any bridges as he may have a long time goal of partial ownership. He may be good at analyzing certain strategies , I just think it might quickly get old as he doesn’t strike me as someone willing to be critical of the “ Shield “ , and I don’t think he has ever come across as witty or someone to show a willingness to ever say anything negative in a manner like Romo has for example. I just think Brady is an example of having financial and other conflicting interests involving the NFL that I think his performance is almost predictable. It’s a classic case of just because he was a great player , he was hired with NO EXPERIENCE as an analyst which would never happen in other professions ( it’s like hey , you were a great patient managing your diabetes , so let’s hire you now to run our regional diabetes treatment center ,,,,,,,just because you have experience with YOUR situation doesn’t confer expertise across the board as an extreme example !😊). It would be a nice surprise if he actually is honest and not afraid to be critical when the situation calls for that , but I am skeptical he can overcome his “ indoctrination “ of decades of never being critical of the NFL or guys he has been friends and colleagues with. Think of yoir own profession , it’s not easy being openly critical of people you have had relationships with. Will he be willing to take chances that he might offend someone like an owner when he has made it public ( regarding the interest in owing a part of the dolphins ) he has future ideas of possibly being a member of that exclusive club ? I think he has the potential to be good having been so good on the field , but if he is only willing to heap praise and always stay away from any potential criticism or controversy, It’s very likely he will be just another boring ex player given a position he never actually earned by working his way up through the ranks. I don’t see him being as entertaining as someone like Manning for example, who like Romo , has proven to be an exception to how former athletes have performed when shoved in to analyst positions. Time will tell.