
DrPJax
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I agree , and in this case the ‘doctor’ is a doctor of physical therapy ( which is the most common path taken by physical therapists now and should not be confused with the same length of education required to obtain either an MD OR DO degree , and those drs go on to residency or subspecialties for several additional years to obtain broad certification and specialty boards.), and he is just explaining a mechanism without ever actually examining or talking to josh. Please, Don’t get me wrong , i have seen his work on YouTube and he is very knowledgeable about rehab and PT. He is a great guy and devout BILLS FAN and I enjoy his work on those YouTube shows. But he has no special insight into things like joshes pain with certain throws, his pain tolerance etc , and i am sure Dorsey did not offer up to him that they had to limit their short game offense. It’s a great mechanism explanation, but there is no objective proof that’s what took place. Just saying , there is no direct evidence to support this opinion as far as i am aware and it’s nothing more than a theory regarding the bills offense. Who knows if the strained ucl had any particular effect on josh; he mentioned on brandts program he got prp injected immediately and he made the decision he was able to play that following Saturday . I don’t think they would favor letting him play if they knew they then had to eliminate vital or large parts of the offense just for him to be on the field.Seems counter to McD’s philosophy. I think in the past they have stated if you are going to be on the field you are expected to be able to perform your job , or why be out there? I don’t know, just an opinion , but josh doesn’t seem like he would avoid throws as he has proven to have a high pain threshold ( i think each other afc east team had at least 3 other qbs play at some point last year due to injury , as josh never missed a snap because of injury), so unless the therapist has insider knowledge (which he has stated on YouTube he does not) regarding Josh and the offense , this is just theoretical , and i agree with Gungy, seems more like an excuse rather than reality. I think that part of the offense that disappeared was more a reflection on Dorsey, teams having film on his offense as the year progressed, and his inexperience as a coordinator, more so than josh being limited by pain. If I hear that from josh’s mouth, that he removed short throws , then i will believe it.
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I was driving today and heard EB’S presser after being hired by the commanders. I can see why he would be perceived as a bad interviewer. His press conference was over enthusiastic in a non professional way. In addition it was one cliche after another strung together for the entire time. There was not one sign of original thought, just a run on from one cliche to the next as I listened on Sirius nfl network channel. His “ enthusiasm” , imo, came across as non genuine and he sounded over the top like you might expect to hear from some young, newly hired high school coach, not someone at the highest professional level in the worlds most successful sports league who had just finished 10 years under a HOF HC , winning 2 SB’S along the way. If you get a chance to hear his presser , ask yourself if you have EVER heard McD sound so overly , almost insincere like , in his enthusiasm. Mcd is enthusiastic , but very calculated and professional, and if all someone’s vision for his offense is a playbook of coaching cliches, there is no way I hire them as their prior success is most likely a product of their association with a very creative supervising coach. I am not impressed by just the rah , rah approach in coaching adult professional athletes. It would wear thin very quickly. Couple that with a criminal, violent history regarding women in the past and i am not shocked , even with an emphasis to hire minority coaches , that EB made this type of lateral move to have any shot at a HC position should Rivera’s health fail. Just one full press interview and the quality difference between how mcd comes across and how EB came across is pretty eye opening, and told me all i needed to know regarding his past failures to land a HC position. EB seems to be in a no win situation perceptually. If he has success , it’s because he is using Reid’s system and is again under a very experienced head coach. If the offense struggles, it’s because he is now own his own , away from Reid and Mahomes, and he probably wont be seen as someone who can take a struggling offense and creatively turn it around. ( Dorsey found out similar things with daboll gone , but he at least has support from a premiere QB and mcd, and hasn’t been turned down for several years attempting to land a HC job.) I just don’t see this going well for EB ; grasping at a lateral move in a very dysfunctional organization for your most likely final path to becoming a HC, seems like a desperate last ditch attempt to by whatever means become a HC. It feels like a vulture sitting in a tree looking down knowing rivera’s health is EB’S main determinant regarding his head coaching future rather than getting the position based solely on merit. Opportunistic , or distasteful? Just an opinion, but i hate cliches as ones main communication go to.
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It was ONE HALF OF ONE GAME where I think most would agree the d performance dropped off , the 2nd half of the Vikings game. Name ONE OTHER scenario where his absence was obviously missed, please? Also, our offense began to a struggle and I think had some turnovers in that game , (forgive me from just going by memory , but I know we blew a big lead and we saw several other games where our O went into a shell as the opponent figured out Dorsey’s offense combined with at time poor decision making on our QB’s part) as the Vikings came from behind. Yes , their o made plays, including the offensive play of the year which had nothing to do with edmunds, but poor CB and DL play which became a recurrent theme. Everyone suddenly wanted to make that same correlation with edmunds being out , yet there is no way to make that EXACT correlation as the offense didn’t play as well as it had getting the lead in the first place, and we were down to having Cam Lewis on the field defending someone like Jefferson. The same exact scenario happened with edmunds playing during the MIAMI playoff game, as we blew a large lead and barely won the game, yet no one points out edmunds role in that defensive debacle when he was healthy and leading the defensive effort against a 3rd or 4th string QB! There is no way to prove that argument about play dropping off by the D was caused SOLEY by edmunds injury when in fact we were beginning to see this pattern happening repeatedly as we faced better teams who game planned for Frazier’s D , and ultimately lead to Cincy ending the Bills season with Edmunds on the field. The two things , his injury and the loss, were just as likely coincidence as being a causation, and the loss was multifaceted with errors on BOTH SIDES of the ball. I think them not extending him when they could have the prior year speaks volumes. You know what is interesting , why don’t we hear much about games that EDMUNDS made a game winning play in? Can you post a few of those he played a SIGNIFICANT , GAME CHANGING ROLE in , just as a counter to ascribing the Vikings loss mainly to his absence for a half? Probably going to hear crickets waiting to see those type of game results over his 5 year career being posted. Maybe that’s why he wasn’t extended; when you have to sit and think that hard about games he positively impacted so much it resulted in a Bills win, maybe his best year still wasn’t that exceptional and maybe that level of production can actually be matched or bettered for less money than his ‘reputation” might garner. If they do bring him back at a fair value, I’m all for not creating another hole to fill, but at the same time I’m not panicked if he signs elsewhere . I think we have a star in Milano, and we just need to find a complimentary LB to keep the D performing well enough to not notice a significant drop off.
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Yeah, his career total of 6.5 sacks , 2ff,, 5 ints for 27 total yards over those 5 years is almost HOF, irreplaceable game impacting stuff that might just start another drought if not duplicated. I know I don’t have all the stats on passes he prevented from being thrown because he was around the area, and I’m sure he can use that argument for deserving to be highly paid, after all, that’s always the main argument given by supporters when criticized ( yet relying on non-events for deserving a large pay increase seems more risky than having actually produced on the field imo) The Bills were in that drought because they lacked a franchise QB, not because they lacked any LB play. I think that point is mute now. KC didn’t win 2 SB’s because of their stellar defense; they have a hof HC & QB (most likely), wouldn’t you agree? Relying on needing a particular LB, unless its someone like parsons or maybe a star like Miller, to get you a SB title seems like a flawed strategy based on the history of success of teams with multiple wins who got there because of great franchise QB play (kc & Pats). Just let those career stats sink in for a guy drafted 16th overall , who supposedly is some freakish athlete. He may be that, but he is not freakish on the football field and his lack of impact fits those career stats and the eye test we’ve witnessed for 5 years. This last year was the first year he played with some visible intensity, but it still resulted in 1 sack, 1 Int , more balls that bounced off his hands when turnovers were needed, and he was still seen trailing plays, getting pushed out of gaps or tackling rbs from behind more times than he ever was seen making a TFL. THESE ARE CAREER STATS OF AN IRREPLACEABLE,IMPACT LB? I just can’t see it that way. Even in mcd’s D, those are embarrassingly small numbers of impactful plays on a winning team and I think are proof they won in spite of him , not because of him, and I don’t see how it will be that difficult to at least match that production moving forward. He may be much better in another D schematically and actually become that star we hoped for , but what difference does that make for the Bills as long as McD/Frazier stay together ?
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Yeah,,,kind of hard to like such a humble A@@ hole. Rough day to be his brother.
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THAT and 6$ will get you coffee at Starbucks! Lol ! Hold onto little things ,,,,but cincy worked us and Miami almost did. It was a nice reg season win,,,maybe next time don't give up the best play of the year to lose a game at home (Vikings game, so you keep home field advantage. Yet, even that didn’t stop cincy ) in typical bills fashion, and dont come out totally flat and get out coached on Your home field in the playoffs. How about just quit losing as much in the post season ; having a 4-5 record is not going to get you more than one lombardy even if they had put all 4 of those wins in a single season. It’s time for the process to produce and quit being passed by other staffs. Just being honest,,,,talent is probably there but coaching errors ( defensive mistakes coupled with an inexperienced OC) keep this team from reaching its potential. When your DC has a “1” D, and cant get a HC interview or even win assistant COY recognition, and you keep going back down that’s path, people will bypass you in this league. Results are the proof.
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Well,,,,,sorry no trophy’s a given out in reg season. Still doesn’t make up for that terrible cincy game. Sorry. Just was an epic failure AT HOME.
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Eagles may have been the better team , but in this game bring here before really matters. I mean , based on just the past, would you really bet confident mcd/ Frazier would not make a critical error first time there? That’s why missing these chances to get to the game feels worse.
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He was in pain before half. Bet he got injected with some marcaine ,,,,local agent that lasts several hours to numb an area. He is moving too well with a high sprain without thinking about having a block being done with so much on the line. Not like there are worried about next week.
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Give you the fumble,,but the punt return was a great play and wall was set but. These teams aren’t committing stupid penalties and they are makin a large number of good plays. You just like to argue, right,,,,never concede anything just to make sure you’re heard right? lol.
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2 well coached teams not shooting themselves. Plus their guys are actually making plays and catch the ball !
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Give Allen this offensive coaching. Reid would really develop him.
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I agree, but Allen needs to also have better ball security , quit forcing things when he doesn’t have to. Can’t lead the league in red zone ints, and can’t fumble as much as he does. He loses focus during games that I dont see Mahomes experience. Allen is a very good qb,,,,can be great but can’t just ignore his decision making errors that I think recurred more under Dorsey. Think Daboll controlled him more effectively.
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Reid is showing how much coaching matters, esp in postseason. We are not a great come from behind team , or if we do , it’s not comfortable watching the D give the lead right back after we score.
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There is something the bills don't do,,,keep using something that is working.
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The difference is the chiefs actually use and develop roles to get them on the field rather than bench guys for quarters because of a fumble. Two different philosophies.
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True, but the Bills just didn’t seem innovative this past year. Dorsey has much room to improve , which surprised me with him Bering a former Qb.
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Whole Fox production has been very bland, uninspiring. Game is pretty good tho, but I agree, just seems less than enthusiastic stuff
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The more you realize things like this , it just seems crazy how they totally lost or failed to develop any sense of a true identity on offense and there just is no rational explanation concerning how players are used or developed. Somewhat losing faith in this staff after seeing other staffs bypass them with imaginative schemes. Will see, but for now all I am learning to expect is some new way to flame out in the post season. Like mcd , but honestly, so many chances have been blown ; 13 sec could be analogous to wide right.
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Just wanted to say hello! Did med school in Toledo from 79-82, then residency at Mercy hospital from ‘82-85 before leaving Ohio for good to move to Jax/ ponte vedra. So many great, great memories from Toledo and was a great place to learn and have fun. Just got tired of the cold/ snow past Easter. Underrated city tho, lots of great people and always loved being there. Hope you’re enjoying the game. 😀
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These guys need to quit milking the nfl and torturing us. Nothing significant has come from these guys mouths in years as analysts. Time to move on, it’s very stale and robotic crap at this point.
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Looks pregnant to me, or doing a Santa theme.
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Well, sounds like someone is trying to nitpick,,,,,got to get there in the first place to have a cancel to suck, right????? Lol. 😂
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Lol, problem is eventually the process has to produce a championship, not just be a catch phrase. 6 years is a very long process in the nfl culture, and other, Less tenured coaches have already made SB appearances ; that’s just a hard fact to ignore , and they seemingly did it with less overall talent. There is only one ultimately acceptable end product , a Lombardi. And that’s the basis of this business. Every coaching staff in the NFL has and will be measured by their ability to do that one thing, so it’s easy to see either ultimate success or failure. Guys who are coaches, getting paid very high salaries, understand that and know their time will usually either show quick success ( a championship, not repeatedly falling short of even getting a chance to win one yet; the process has not even actually gotten to the final game, coupled with a franchise whose history is shared with only a few others who also have never won even once), or they will be replaced as there is a never ending pool of talent who just might be better. There is no promise of linear progression to a championship and this fan base should know that more than any other. Who is to say that 13 seconds might not be to this staff what wide right was to Levy and Kelly ? They peaked at 51-3 , missed that one opportunity to win it all, and never really got close again despite regular season success. Their future was sealed as a team/ staff and they never did win it all. So, how do you ask a group of people who has been thru that type of ultimate failure to just hold onto a catch phrase when they went from right on the verge of possibly moving on, while actually healthy, playing their best and hottest football, staring at playing the AFC championship on their home field, only to blow it with 13 seconds ( analogous to wide right as the last play), then follow that up with one of the worst home playoff losses in franchise history, and not expect people to lose some trust? They have just seen proof that at least 3 teams now ( kc, CINCY, EAGLES, & possibly the 49 ers, and Miami is closing fast ) have leap frogged in front of them getting further In the playoffs the past two years, so its hardly an aberration. I don’t have the answers, but I do know THE PROCESS was never sold as something supposed to take 6-7 years to actually produce. Now they are facing the reality that their drafting results along the lines didn’t pan out, they continue to fail to produce an effective running game in critical situations , and their go to passing attack may actually, as it currently stands, lack enough talent ( compared to peers KC & CINCY) to expect to get past those teams. They have watched other teams poach players from them and get production as the Bills failed to develop them to the point of even getting them on the active roster regularly, and now are facing cap ramifications that might cost them losing supposed pro bowl talent. I don’t think any of that is just being pessimistic to just be pessimistic , but actually is how many analysts are discussing the situation.without rose colored glasses on. So, that is THE PROCESS up to this point; that’s the reality of the product. It sure seems impossible to think with Allen as your franchise qb, that’s the best THE PROCESS might produce , but if you went through the Kelly/ Marino era seeing no titles, maybe not TRUSTING THE PROCESS is not so surprising. At some point you have to produce , after all, somebody DOES PRODUCE every year, right? I don’t remember the NFL ever not crowning a SB champion! It’s not impossible, so why not have high expectations? I really like mcd, but for a guy who always is spouting “no excuses”, his teams sure have blown thru a lot of them. Lol ! BTW, big fan, you always got the diagnosis right on your show with s*** I had a hard time finding in text books , so why cant you fix this Bills crap? I 😂. Down some hydrocodone, and post the solution asap! 😀