BillsFan-4-Ever

Hey now! Leave Tim's Family out of this

F5 Monday won't come fast enough

DOH Hey its been a year. correct Bills 6 pts worse. Sounds right.

agreed. as the saying goes you learn from your mistakes. or you fail miserably I made mention of my concerns for scrambling QB's some short time ago and (somewhat expected) it was taken as a knock on TT.

edited for lack of coffee. WOW Bills +3 is a bigger number than about what I expected. 3 is the default spread for the home team. So they are saying the Bills w/o a proven QB is even with Luck? The Indy D must be really bad. By 10?

that seems to be the trend Now we wait for the live action on Saturday to further who the selection may be

easy now.... He has little choice when speaking to "EJ is improving" in the same way he grew to admit that Orton wasn't the answer.

yes, I know it is a small sample size..... hasn't that been the point all along WRT EJ as I said camp and game play can be very different. EJ could be named #3 and WGR and the rest can all say we told you so.

No Rubes, you blame it on the narrower goal posts .... DARN YOU NFL OWNERS!!!!! I'd say more but I am trying not to criticize TT for just the point you made. The sack / lost yards killed that drive. Just like the sack / lost yards almost kept EJ from scoring in the 4th QTR drive against Cleveland If they want scoring to be up then why the hell did they narrow the posts?

Take the stats with a grain of salt Metz. Stats lie and in this case they just might. However said stats are an argument to use for those who say EJ is still very inaccurate. You can't have a passer rating of 117.95 for example if you are off target all the time. For this to happen one of these are true EJ was on target more often than not The 3rd string WR's & TE's are phenomenal players and should be kept on the team. and lastly using documented high numbers is a great way to troll http://www.nfl.com/player/ejmanuel/2539228/profile

15 - 20 years ago the Packers really sucked. Karma I bet they all thanked God for Orton!!!

never argue with a Global Moderator Simon says FONT you!!!

hasn't the majorities of arguments / discussions here been about what the media interpreters as "mixed signals"? It may all be true, but 9 of 10 are sure EJ stands no chance. Practices and game action are two different animals.

that was meant as a joke to previous discussions. to start off - I am not ridiculing Tyrod in any way. WRT the post - granted that still only adds up to 4 drives, not 4+ that lead to a (potential) score. again unless I missed something else. Tyrod's first drive was very good, he also had another very good drive later in the game, but in between... It's football and preseason. IIRC The Bills missed 2 FG's that I can recall. 1 was off the post the other blocked (hand). All in all, none of the QB's deserve harsh criticism for the last 2 preseason games.

stinky air = brain fart?

I'll accept your drive numbers for EJ - (Correct me if I am wrong here) to start with, in 2 preseason games with EJ, the Offense scored 18 pts - 2 passing TD's, 1 Two pt conversion, 0 rushing TD's and 1 FG Carolina 10 points Cleveland 8 points (Correct me if I am wrong here) In 2 preseason games with TT, the Offense scored 17 pts, 0 passing and 0 rushing TD's, 2 rushing by other players, and 1 FG. --- You said QUOTE - TT is averaging 4+ scoring drives. Which scoring drive + did I miss? Carolina 14 points. Cleveland 3 points. and just to be all inclusive In 1 preseason games with MC, the Offense scored 6 pts (??), 0 passing and 0 rushing TD's. How many scoring drives has MC had?

so why were we arguing? Amen brother. You won't change the minds of those whom you have described.

IMO something seems odd with the reading of only 1 side of the field. just saying

Agreed. No time for people watching when running for your life. To the OP, yeah the junkie will take time to get used to. WTF was he wearing when he woke up? His girlfriends shirt? Lesson to the young'uns Wear a belt!!! Bring on Z Nation!!! (for the comedic effect of Zombie land!)

The faults I could foresee there would be playing it too safe and not letting it rip aka going deep. Haven't the Bills drafted speedy WR's so they could go dep and stretch the field? Stretching the field also help with the run game. Which of there is true? Do either of these apply to the Bills 3 QB's? Establish the Run to Set Up the Pass or Establish the Pass to Set Up the Run My apologies if I mixed you up with the "keep 2 QB's" (one of them is not named EJ) people.

Per WGR Matt was off a lot in the last SJF practice. TT has a good day and EJ was OK (could have been better w/o an INT thrown.

Manuel finished the day 27-of-39 for 296 yards. He now has two straight games of recording a passer rating of 89 or better. While his performance was impressive, Manuel was far from perfect. He lost a fumble after getting sacked deep in the team's own territory. He then gave up an interception while throwing a pass intended for T.J. Graham. Manuel walked off the field looked unfazed by the error, upsetting Marrone. It is clear the rookie has a long ways to go, but the crucial plays made with the clock ticking down prove Buffalo has something special on their hands

QBR or passer rating? I was called out for making an error siting that 117 #. Just asking. not intending to criticize.

Have I stated otherwise? I will support the coaches decisions.and cheer on the team. My bias? I see Cassel as another Bledsoe/Fitz/Kolb/Orton. Good, but maybe not good enough. If I whine about EJ it is because I see raw talent I'd prefer not go to waste. 32 teams with maybe half of them Franchise material. If EJ gets cut I could see him going to another team and perhaps doing well. If I am wrong so be it. Life goes on. As for TT may the best man win. I;ve not said much against the kid. If I post stats well another subject because as I have often stated ... Stats Lie WRT being ridiculed for my opinion - that is not acceptable to me and is half the reason I argue so much. Go Team QB!!!

unfortunately everything involves chance. What are the chances that the Cheatriots are the only team with playoff wins 12(?) of the last 15 years?? There is always a chance that stars of the team get injured. Anywho. cheers