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Got it. I think people didn’t understand what was going on. It seemed clear to me. 🤷🏼‍♂️ I was the one who told his other four kids that he passed away after reading that topic. I mean, what a messed up situation.

which posts? Did you look up his posting history? in the shoutbox, he eschewed fatherly discussions for posting links to NFL news tweets. Lol. Generally dry and factual. I did learn he spilled a bowl of tomato soup on the carpet and needed to how to clean it up before his wife came home this past January or so. That’s pretty much the only peek into his actual life 38 years since I woke up one particular day in 1983.

I must have posted a new topic? Doesn’t seem right. I’m sure I posted something like the next day. I didn’t want to make it about me.

I will offer up another sad, dark, seriously? factoid… My father ditched the family when I was in eighth grade, so somewhere near my 13th birthday. Never had much contact with him after that except for a funeral. Fast forward to the year 2002 - I get a random email from him telling me that he’s been reading my site for years and never knew it was mine. Then he just stop talking to me LOL. fast forward again to last year I think? I am shooting the ***** in the shout box and someone brings up the blizzard of 77. This poster says they were stuck in a restaurant near Buffalo but came from my dinky little hometown. Like a clueless idiot I asked them who they were because well hey I’m from there! Turns out my father registered as Kemp2Warlick and has been posting here for years and posting in the shoutbox. Has a son, daughter-in-law and grandchildren. Couldn’t give a rats ass. However, he was very up on what Adam Schefter had to report around the NFL. And sometimes we’d be the only half a dozen people chatting in the shoutbox. 😂 He passed away recently and his wife, whom I never met, posted here under his display name to let us know how much he loved the community and that he had finally died.

could you please rephrase the title? It’s probably not worth any potential controversy for questionable choice of words. Thanks.

This is probably peripheral to the discussion I've been trying to have, but the above responses beg the question... Did DR come after the one verifiably known person here that is actually on the sex offender registry? Again, not trying to be argumentative. Just curious given the unique situation.

I am not trying to be argumentative here. I am seriously curious.

Is this a defense? 🤔

The number of people who have asked me to shut this place down over the years is numerous. It is not limited to anything that has happened recently. The situation here is no different than what other places of discussion have faced across the internet.

if you bothered to read the original post, this is unequivocally not the situation under discussion. I would be happy to listen to responses to the original post, not a random theory.

many people keep asserting that I’m wrong. Therefore, I am being completely transparent about what I acted on. I am politely asking for others to tell me what I missed or what I interpreted incorrectly. Do you have a response to the above? and to answer your question, I routinely take ownership and responsibility when I am wrong and do my best to make corrections.

Just so everyone sow's I broke out my post from page 23.

FYI, I broke this out to a separate topic. I encourage direct responses to what I have posted here. Thanks.

Oh, and one last thing… The PM ***** storm that I got pulled into had to do with DR continually accusing another member of supporting child abuse, which DR doubled down on. (I incorrectly stated that the accusation was of direct abuse. I apologize for error.)

I realized in my long rambling post that I did make it easy for people like I requested others make it easy for me/us. So, let me expand upon the recent events, that came after the "post in this topic to ***** on X", a 30 day suspension, multiple attempts to bypass it, and an ensuing PM pissing match upon return. This is what I was told to look at: (My interpretation is that The Frankish Reich is being accused of making a duplicate topic. The response below.) "You know how you can tell an asshat from a good poster? " https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/227311-will-trump-be-healthy-enough-to-run-and-serve/?do=findComment&comment=6758287 Thumbs up: Buffalo Gal, carpet crawler, dub, Dragoon "Liars gonna lie." Posted ####### meme Link deleted "It's a special: "LOOK AT ME! I NEED ATTENTION" post by the board's newest chief Asshat. It's fun to watch such a dumb man go through such lengths to prove how incalculably dumb he truly is." https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/227311-will-trump-be-healthy-enough-to-run-and-serve/?do=findComment&comment=6758300 Thumbs up: dubs, Laughed: cinga "You could have put this in any number of threads. It would be just as forgettable and stupid in those threads as it would be on its own. But, the asshat would rather ***** up the board like a pelican because he's in desperate need for attention. It's funny to witness a grown man continually make an ass out of himself in public. " https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/227311-will-trump-be-healthy-enough-to-run-and-serve/?do=findComment&comment=6758321 "You're so full of shite you can't even keep up with your own bullshite positions. Carry on being a dishonest asshat. " https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/227311-will-trump-be-healthy-enough-to-run-and-serve/?do=findComment&comment=6758354 "That's unfair to ask. He's not even smart enough to realize the sky is blue. " https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/227311-will-trump-be-healthy-enough-to-run-and-serve/?do=findComment&comment=6758385 Upon further investigation, I read this (In response to TFR's request to stop the name calling): "Nope. Don't think I will. I gave you weeks of civility, you wanted none of it. Now you just get the horns. Your choice, Frank. " https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/191395-the-deep-state-war-heats-up-ph34r/?do=findComment&comment=6752991 I have looked over pages and pages and pages of posts by TFR and other than pushing back on positions, conspiracy theories and sometimes the general bent of PPP, I see absolutely nothing outside the normal back and forth of political talk that justified any of this on the heels on that suspension. TFR's posting history (I apologize for pulling you into this): https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/profile/24239-the-frankish-reich/content/?type=forums_topic_post&change_section=1 Maybe I missed something. 🤷‍♂️ I also want to make it clear that TFR did not report anything. Another member did. So I ask: 1. What do I tell the member who reported the above and expresses to us that another member is facing unwarranted, repetitive abuse? 2. What am I supposed to do after reading the above after just going through this scenario with the reported member? 3. As this country becomes more polarized and as our discourse increasingly gets more extreme, why would I want this Buffalo Bills Community associated with the above (among other things)? A lot of people post anonymously here. I, however, am not (or at least it is the worst secret ever). I want to note that, unless I missed it, friends of DR didn't exactly call for him to relax. Posters have responded that people here handle it themselves. So far I have failed to see where TFR needed to be handled like this. I do see DR needing to take a step back (IMO), but no advice was offered (unless it was done privately and he ignored it). Edit: Oh, and one last thing… The PM ***** storm that I got pulled into had to do with DR continually accusing another member of supporting child abuse, which DR asserted in PM. (I incorrectly posted that the DR accused the member of actual abuse. I apologize for my mistake.) Just additional information from my point of view.

To make a clarification... I know my rambling post seems like it was a complete tell-all, but it wasn't it. Plenty of people report posters like BillStime and and a whole host of others. It was the source of my "tell a better story in reports" request. Reporting a person by calling them annoying or saying they posted an annoying meme in PPP is not something anyone is ever going to take the time to investigate. Also let it be told, we have been telling everyone for weeks/months? to stop reporting trivial matters, regardless of the poster or their philosophy.

Since this became an issue here, I’m letting you know that I have permanently banned: buffalobillsfootball GoBuffalo716 BillZtime along with two others accounts and BillStime for 30 days. A couple notes: For the love of God please stop with the bot conspiracy nonsense. Look up Occam‘s razor. Secondly, if you feel a situation is so egregious that it needs to be reported, take the time and explain it to me like I’m five. Put a bow on it. Providing minimal information and expecting me to play Sherlock Holmes to try and piece together a vague situation together on my own almost never happens. Thanks.

The problem is the light is off many times. I’ve been waiting for it to go on. 😀

As someone who has a terrible time with spelling mistakes on his phone, I sympathize. LOL

thanks for the comment. I know people are angry, but I wanted to let you know that I have read the concerns here and I have already implemented some changes and will be suggesting something in the near future. Maybe tonight. In the meantime this defense is giving me heartburn.

Of the people who have tagged me, I decided to respond here. 🤷‍♂️ I apologize if this is long and rambling. I will try and address the issue, but it also contains bits and pieces of thoughts I have had over a decade. This is not directed at you personally. "Your" applies to many people. Pre-pre-pre-amble: To state an obvious point, to some, but lost on others... I am a human being, over 50, with my own life filled with good stuff, bad stuff, health issues, family issues, career, etc... Prior to this virus getting hold in the US, my left arm was numb 24/7. I was convinced that the massive cervical herniations in my neck could best be solved by an artificial disc replacement oversees. I was working on my insurance in March, when everything came to a halt. Thankfully, weeks later, it appears my body reabsorbed my herniations and the numbness went away. Fast-forward to today. I live on the edge with my condition. I try to sleep on a rolled up towel under my head. Most positions when I lie down and relax or try to sleep cause both my arms to go numb. I get constantly woken up because of it. "Relaxing" is anything but. It's a daily reminder that I have a serious condition circling my waters. I have a kid struggling to navigate college amid COVID-19. I have another with a laundry list of health issues we try to manage everyday. My wife is immune-compromised with her issues. The good news is we were distracted this summer by building a nice pool for my family, despite the kids being mostly grown. It was a foolish financial decision made only to provide a home escape for their health. So here I am. Over 50 years old, navigating my own increasingly complicated existence taking time on a Sunday Morning summoned in a politics subforum in Buffalo Bills community to talk about some random, anonymous (to me anyway) individual on the internet. What better way to spend a beautiful fall morning right? I say this, not because I want sympathy or to suggest that my family and I are different. My point is that I am the same as everyone. I am not a TBD on-call robot with infinite bandwidth. And while many people automatically get this. Many do not. Being mindful that you are one of hundreds and hundreds of people demanding our minuscule gift of time is not an unreasonable expectation. Pre-pre-amble: This is a Buffalo Bills community. It's a simple statement. For decades, I have done my best (although sometimes not good enough), to provide a place for people to talk about the team and the NFL. It's amazing so many people have chosen to stick around all these years. I am also fully aware of the countless friendships that have been made and the small opportunities that have come along (like KtD writing for the Buffalo News, Lori writing for her home town paper, Moose making wallpapers for the Bills) that may have been aided by our community. With that said, I don't run 4chan for Bills fans. I don't run The Donald for Bills fans. While this subforum may be extremely important to many members personally, please realize this is not what we do. PPP is not the dog. I do not moderate this subforum. None of the moderators do. I have done my best for well over 10 years, for better or worse (probably worse), to be blissfully ignorant of what goes on here. I can tell you prior to this administration there were probably many years I didn't come in here. Years. If i didn't know about, then I happily ignored it. This is probably not the best thing I've done, but moderating politics on the internet is not something I care to do. I've kept his place open in an ever-changing internet landscape because a lot of people here have enjoyed it and have made friends. I stayed away FOR the benefit of the people here. A politics board in a Buffalo Bills community has been kept open BECAUSE of you. Pre-amble: Censorship. PPP has 800k posts right now and an untouched 3-year topic on Qanon. 🤦‍♂️ Take your stellar analysis elsewhere. The situation: Please take a moment and step back from your personal relationships and look at this situation from my point of view. I am not the "Buffalo Bills community administrator for my personal friends". I have to hear everyone. I have to weigh everyone's conduct. I have to consider fairness to everyone. I have to consider the legitimacy of dissenting points of view for everyone. I don't get to ignore my friends' behavior because - "hey, we are friends and I agree with them, so I don't care". I don't have that luxury. Please consider that my position extends far beyond my own personal preferences. With that said, I experience this place different from others. Everyone's personal experience differs from others here. We read vastly different subsets of posts. We participate more in one area or the other. We befriend some but not the others. Some skim, some read intently. Some read the message only, some take into account of who is saying what. We all peer into this place looking through different soda straws. Your experience may that DR is a great guy and a valuable member of this forum. This is what you see through your soda straw. My soda straw is different. As I said earlier, I try my best to avoid this place. I never, ever, ever just look here to see "what's up". However, when stuff gets reported I am forced to at least look and acknowledge the report exists. I then decide, and make no mistake it is a decision, to give a further look. So, my point of view, my experience, my soda straw is that despite my attempts to avoid this place - my nose gets shoved in ***** on a regular basis. It's on these occasions when my nose gets shoved in *****, that I am forced to acknowledge awfulness that would never, ever exist in any other place in the community. For instance, in August, DR started a topic that basically said, "This topic is to be used by the community to ***** on another member". This may not register with you, but as the admin here - it registers with me. It's a BIG deal. We have probably had 8-9 million posts in this community. This is the first time I have ever seen this done to this extreme. Raw and ugly. (This is waaaaay different than some call out post over a beef. In the message board world, this was psychotic.) It doesn't matter if you think the "other member" is annoying or that you dislike them. It doesn't matter how valuable you think DR is to a politics discussion in a Buffalo Bills community. I am the administrator for BOTH people here, as well everyone else in the community at large. I suspended him for 30 days. I was met with a childish barrage of additional accounts being registered. Completely wasting my time. When he came back I met with an instant PM pissing match between him and another member that included me. Again. Over 50 years, with a real life to attend to. DR ignores it. Then last night I get barraged with 5-6 reports from PPP. So I again stop what i am doing to look into a politics subforum in a Buffalo bills community. And there he is - calling a member an ####### 1, 2, 3, 4 times in a row. Oblivious to what happened a month ago. That member he bombed had all the appearances of just trying to talk. What am I, now having my nose shoved into another pile of his *****, supposed to do? Say others think DR is a very valuable member in a politics subforum in a Buffalo Bills community and therefore he has carte blanche to treat anyone, anywhere however he wants, whenever he wants? I can't unsee it. It was completely brazen and completely dismissive of an event we just had before. While DR was calling another member an #######, he was flipping me the middle finger. This is where I ask each of you to step back and see this through my soda straw. As an administrator, I don't care about his politics or his point of view. All that conspiracy stuff is sitting right there untouched. However, his grotesque treatment of others is actually behavior that I am forced to occasionally address. He unnecessarily takes time away from me and my life to deal with his extreme behavior. Do not be angry at me. Be angry at DR. It is his conduct that has created this situation. His. It is his ability to just ignore people. It is his inability to put people on the ignore list. It is his inability to respond to others, not in a civil way, but something, anything, short of extreme. It is his inability to acknowledge what happened a month ago and make trivial adjustments to his interactions. That's my position from where I sit. I hope you at least consider what I wrote above, think about my position, and realize "being valuable" to some people isn't a golden ticket to do as you please. If you read this far. Thanks for reading. Go Bills.

But did he get the picture?

this is not the right way to respond to these posts. The best way is to report them. Thank you. while we appreciate you responding with our announcement, this particular post was egregious enough to be reported. Thank you.

My guess is the buzz around this story goes away in about a week.

Thanks for your feedback everyone!