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but what you just described is me and having moderators. Or any website that provides any moderation.

lots of posts to respond to this morning, I just happen to be responding to this one since it’s easiest. LOL 1. I can move all posts into a club 2. A club can be set up in multiple ways. Anyone can join, only approved members can be join, or only invited members can join. Clubs only makes sense if there is a critical mass of people who want it to happen though.

if you are speaking about COVID-19 it is because research and analysis takes time. If you’re talking about taking zinc in general, zinc lozenges have been promoted for many years.

she said plainly that she would not take a vaccine on his word alone, and that she would trust the experts when the time came.

41 hated campaigning. He famously didn’t start campaigning until August 1992, IIRC. That led 42 to drive his numbers down unchallenged. Anyway, my memory isn’t great, but my high level take away of all these retrospectives of the 1992 election was that Perot did not hurt bush. Dartmouth published an interesting paper about this years back. Their claim is that Perot increased people going to the polls by 3%, but decreased Clintons winning margin by 7%. In a separate model, where everyone would technically have been forced to vote, the margins didn’t change. I did not dig deep enough to find out have a model of that situation. Anyway, the conclusion that Perot suppressed Clinton’s margin is along the lines of everything I’ve heard that in the last 28 years. https://cpb-us-e1.wpmucdn.com/sites.dartmouth.edu/dist/9/280/files/2016/09/LacyBurdenAJPS1999.pdf

please refrain from making other people feel unwelcome. Community members should not be taking that upon themselves. Thanks.

1. If you could be more direct that would be helpful. lol Life here is muuuuuch different than 2002?. 2. This is exactly the case and is evident in graphs.

👍 4-5 accounts were disabled. I mentioned it in a topic a week or so ago.

FYI, many (most?) of those accounts were disabled.

I know... We are still here... 22 years later. Everyone has always been welcome regardless where you came from, BBI, BZ, BBMB, wherever.

But that would require someone to take those actions. Me? Someone else? That's low fruit. How high do we go? Does it matter if it is an agitator or a long time member? I made member v member actions against someone for conduct that I thought was warranted, and I was told I should not have made because it was out of character for them. How does that get handled? They were suspended once and that suspension blew right by without a thought or a concern. 🤷‍♂️

This is probably a bigger deal than the both of you are making if it.

That is the only place that sticks in my memory. An off topic post.

1st of all, I appreciate your entire response, even if I chose to quote only a part of it. I read all of it. Thank you. You may feel like I misrepresented your statement, but I was simply replying to the implication that a non-partial moderator would act on situations differently. I don't think that is the case and that was the crux of my response. Whether you are left/right, I think many people have a blind spot for their own side's hyperbole and ugliness. You may have taken offense at someone calling PPP a conservative hell hole, but I have heard countless people revel in that reputation. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You may feel that way and others may feel damn straight. Thanks again for taking the time. 👍

That's a fair question. I don't recall a heavy or even a balanced presence anywhere else. It's like 25 pieces of content everyday for 6.5 years. Open/closed/hybrid is a choice of the owner.

I think it is garbage. I told him that in the topic. Sincerely, do I ban people who make posts like that because if we go down that road, 75% of people are gone. Including me. Usually the only way that actually works is in a homogeneous environment.

1. But that moderation occurred in a football forum and it happened over and over again. 2. It is the sign of the times. Every platform is dealing with this. I would ask for patience on the accepted norm part. 👍

Do you think I could find something as offensive as that from someone else? If I looked up socialism/Russia/communism/etc... I wouldn't find hyperbole? Regardless, my point is - no one has been going through imposing their biases on others. I was hoping we could agree on that.

It is actually under Browse, but I don't think many people explore the menus.

But let's be clear, no one's opinion was being suppressed. No biased moderators were acting on left/right biases. I hope that you would agree that is a fair statement. If it wasn't fair, the list of individual grievances would be a mile long.

The moderation here has almost been non-existent., so it certainly wasn't biased. DR had 55k posts in here. C'mon, man. I am not aware of a single person whose viewpoint was suppressed. I personally acted on member v. member events. Any other suggestion isn't true.

When I say "clubs" I am talking about the software feature we have. You may not be aware of it. I don't see many people maneuvering away unfortunately. A club has like 5 different options - open, closed, read only, invite only... something like that. It makes it unofficial which is nice. Obviously an admin can do anything, but there isn't even a report post function there. The club owner can appoint mods on their own.

I'm not sure what you are saying here. 🤷‍♂️

My opinion is this: 1. We have the best Bills forum anywhere. Always have. I hope that continues. Right/left/black/white/green are all welcome here. 2. I have my reservations about PPP and I am not able to fix political discourse. It has morphed into its own club. Usually when they happens, club members get annoyed with others. It always happens. It has happened before and it will happen again. That's the life cycle of social groups. However, given the evolution as a group to being more clubby than open, I think moving it to a self-contained club makes total sense. It relieves a lot of pain points. I think it gives everyone what they want. Threading that needle, in an open forum, is difficult.

This has been said erroneously before. I routinely dump posts from the stadium wall into the archive. I’m not sure I have done that here in 10 years or more if ever. There is something like 8 million posts in our database. 800,000 are here of which of the majority are from a smaller group.