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ugly as sin too...

I'll need details.... who will be there? I roll in on Thursday and can possibly make it on Fri. I assume this is the one on Main St?

that detailed the city's plan to prepare for a hurricane. I didn't hear where to find it. Everything that he was reading from this document is the TRUE smoking gun in all this. From the details on how the city WILL use all methods of public transportation to evacuate all special needs residents 72 hours before the fall of the storm to what additional responsibilities the city will assume. It's all laid out and none of it happened at the local level. Is anyone listening to where that ducument can be found?

like there is ice in Miami.... Puhleaze.....

Whenever "Athena" by the Who crosses my mind - WPHD is the 1st thing that comes to mind. They knew how to beat a song.

Blah... they were a good listen for about 2 months and then the repitition of the same songs (especially on Superset Weekends) became unbearable... Not to mention there wasn't a personality to be found anywhere on that station!

that one really flew over your head didn't it?

If you are in your mid-30's this should be pretty much right in your wheel house (if you care to reminisce about high school). It's everything I loved and hated about the 80's.... Triumph followed by Loverboy...

cause we aren't supposed to talk about those unpleasant realities in public.

your an idiot!

Don't foregt Castro threw his hat in too...

One thing to take from this article is that the conclusions weren't questioned as "intolerable". LA and FEMA were fine with the predictions and the prediction came true. They said residents would be on their own and indeed residents were on their own. They said it would take several days for the gov. to get in there and it has taken several days for the gov. to get in there. I did not read where people flipped out and said that outcome was not tolerable and a new plan divised.

unrelated to recent events - we just gave 6 garbage bags of clothes this week.

http://www.stadiumwall.com/index.php?showtopic=27593 read through to find the answer. I !@#$ing hate AOL. Could you PLEASE do me a favor and call AOL to complain? That "test" page lasted for 1-2 hours about 6 months ago and these !@#$s still have it in their system. Tell them it is not just you but many, many people have been complaining for months about this. Please report back what they tell you.

Give me 5 minutes...

kinda like saying Paris Hilton is a skank...

what's there to discuss? your ignorance? no thanks.

Castro just offered 1100 doctors and 26 tons of medicine... that'll make some people squirm.

It just highlights how bad the local level decisions have been.

"FEMA Director Michael Brown told CNN's Larry King on Wednesday, "When I became the director of FEMA a couple of years ago, I decided it was time we did some really serious catastrophic disaster planning. So the president gave me money through our budget to do that. And we went around the country to figure out what's the best model we can do for a catastrophic disaster in this country? And we picked New Orleans, Louisiana."" "But one of the drill participants, Col. Michael L. Brown, then-deputy director of the Louisiana emergency preparedness department, told the Baton Rouge Advocate newspaper that, in a worst-case scenario, there would be only so much government agencies could do. "Residents need to know they'll be on their own for several days in a situation like this," Brown, who is not related to the FEMA director, told the paper." http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/02/hur...rill/index.html It sounds like this was the 1st time that this type of extensive planning, drill had been done. They chose NO, who I believe still had a whole bunch of black people 2 years ago. They saw deficiencies and outlined a plan to address those weaknesses. They also knew that teh response would not be immediate, that residents would have to survive a few days, and that LA would need to stoock the initial supplies until FEMA could back fill.

http://the-rail.blogspot.com/2005/09/are-c...e-disaster.html fox vs. cnn coverage

According to Kathleen Blanco this weekend, she made the mandatory evacuation order only after the president, AP wrote, "called and personally appealed for a mandatory evacuation."

what about this: Rich, As a degreed Mechanical Engineer (with very limited experience in hydrology, I'd be the first to admit), I was disappointed by how slow the repair process was, specifically regarding the 17th Street Canal levee. It seems to me that the attempts to re-establish the levee at the break point were misguided at best: the gap is large, the levee underneath eroding, and unstable. It seemed to me a far more obvious solution was to use the Hammond Highway bridge (a newly constructed bridge just north of the levee break) as a logicalt area to establish a cofferdam. Then, once water flow over the broken section of the levee was stopped, re-establish the levee, and then start pumping out. The bridge provides a hard point for landing supplies, is accessible from Lake Ponchartrain (esp. via barges, which could carry large volumes of materials and equipment). This could have been done relatively easily as opposed to trying to establish a new levee section in rushing water. The only disadvantage that I could see would have been that the cofferdam would then have to be removed once the original levee was reestablished, but that's a minor problem given the level of flooding that ensued during the feeble attempts to plug the levee itself. Interestingly, from the limited photos I've seen, it seems that two cranes are now on the bridge. Wonder what's next in the minds of the engineers on site?

from the corner on NRO: Haven't read much about this in the news .... but a Navy info source that I receive sent this out this morning. Thanks to the Navy's new readiness model 28 ships were ready to get underway within 24 hours. Bataan (a helicopter carrier) and HSV (High Speed Vessel) 2 Swift, out of Naval Station Ingleside, Texas, are off the affected coastline providing support. Four MH-53s (huge helos capable of moving 40-50 troops) and two HH-60s (capable of moving about 20 troops) off the Bataan are flying medevac and search and rescue (SAR) missions in Louisiana, and supporting the Coast Guard's 8th District. Bataan's hospital and staff has been augmented by an additional contingent from the Navy's Bureau of Medicine (BUMED), consisting of 85 personnel, including 12 physicians and 4 surgeons. The Iwo Jima (large helo carrier) Expeditionary Strike Group (ESG) is sailing from Norfolk, Va. loaded with disaster-response equipment. The USNS Arctic (T-AOE 8 - an oiler, ammunition and stores (as in refrigerated stores)) is currently off the Gulf Coast. USS Iwo Jima (LHD 7) (large helo carrier), USS Shreveport (LPD 12) (large helo capable troop transport ship), and USS Tortuga (LSD 46) (large, helo capable troop transport ship) are expected soon. A medical staff augmentation for Iwo Jima is expected to be en route tomorrow. The hospital ship, USNS Comfort (T-AH 20), is departing Baltimore by September 3 to bring some 270 medical staff, capable of supporting 250 hospital beds, to the Gulf region. Project Hope has offered to embark additional medical personnel, and the Air Force's Surgeon General has offered to provide still further staff if needed. USS Harry S. Truman (aircraft carrier) (CVN 75) and USS Whidbey Island (LSD 41) (same as Tortuga above) are sailing today for areas off the Gulf Coast in support to FEMA relief operations. Truman will serve as a command center and an afloat staging base, and will carry additional helicopters from Naval Air Station Jacksonville to support search and rescue efforts. Whidbey Island will bring to the region the ability to employ a movable causeway. USS Grapple (ARS 53) (salvage ship) is currently en route in order to assist with maritime and underwater survey and salvage operations. Military Sealift Command has transferred control of five of its ships to the Navy's Second Fleet to provide further support to relief efforts. USNS Bellatrix, Altair, Pillilau, Bob Hope, and Argol are in the Gulf of Mexico already (all capable of carrying lots of food stuffs, and supplies). USNS Arctic is also at sea in the Gulf and acting as a FEMA support ship and providing logistics services support for the other ships at sea. Navy helicopters from Jacksonville and Mayport, Fla., are supporting relief efforts, and Navy Seabees from Port Hueneme, Jacksonville, and Norfolk are on scene or making preparations to deploy to assist in relief operations. USNS Pollux is operating onboard dialysis equipment for the patients of a local hospital, providing diesel fuel for area hospitals' generators, and providing meals and berthing to relief workers.

you could always turn to Ray and just do the opposite.