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I couldn't recognize Terry Miller if he sliced off the heads of two people and was spotted speeding down the highway in a pimped out Hummer...

what is PARTICULARLY asinine about this latest installment is that when 2 drafted 1st RD QB's face each other - only one can be the winner. So, Manning and Palmer are out, by virtue of Ben getting in... yet someone was foolish enough to make a conclusion that the Plummer/Brady outcome dictates how successful 1st RD QB's perform.... Just give it up already....

Another example of a non sequitur argument. Just because a player experiences success on another team doesn't mean he was playing well for the previous team.

what is asinine about your post Joe is that John Fox wasn't that "hot" of a candidate when he was hired. He had some decent success with the Giants, but he was a dirt poor man's Marvin Lewis. No one was clamoring for this guy when he came to interview here. Lewis was the man on the minds of Bills fans. I suspect if Fox was hired we would have had a ton of pissers and moaners bitching about the 2nd tier coach we settled for.

that should be more than a feeling... that should be outrage. 2 TOs and you don't call one there? WTF? That is inexcusable. It was FAR too important a play to not think about it.

I'm not going there in this thread... Like I said, I would like someone to make a reasonable case why Cowher isn't a HoF caliber coach especially if you contrast his qualifications with Marv's. I found it interesting that this article from Pitt. was so definitive about him NOT being worthy (despite 130 wins and averaging 10 wins per season, 8 division titles, 1 SB appearance... all with one of the most frugal owners in the league). I suppose my lack of ball washing for Marv means I will forever receive knee-jerk responses from people, but I guess I'll have to deal with it.

Man, you can't read for crap can you?

What I find interesting is the comment that he falls shy of greatness and therefore would miss the HoF if voted today. I would like to see the argument laid out on why he would fail to make it yet Marv Levy deserved it (without question in some people's opinion). Sure, Marv has a few more AFC chamionships under his belt, but Cowher has done it longer, has had continued success, and has done it, most importantly IMHO, with different sets of players.... I could almost guarantee that some sports writer will make the argument - if we let Marv in you have to let Bill in...

what on earth are you talking about?

etc... plus, has a small blurb about TD, Halsett. http://www.pghsports.com/2005-Issues/psr0512/05120101.html There is always that age old question about the value of the Marty's and Cowher's of the world and if they are better than having someone unknown, but with a better hope of winning a championship.

Yeah, that's it... I know it is good fun to rip on people for any reason, valid or not, but I happen to think there was enough wrong with this organization that no one should feel compelled to grasp for straws.

Interesting, because recent events lead me to believe that he lies through his teeth every time he talks. Just from the last week: Ralph says TD resigned, but everyone else says fired. Ralph says he didn't know what was going on, but GW says he called "every 10 minutes". Ralph says he has no idea what he pays the coaches, but yet TD paid bottom of the barrell prices with someone else's money. Now, I'm not going to rip on RW, but there has been so much conflicting info that it appears to me that it is RW that has been less than forthcoming than his counterparts in those situations.

The argument being that he hired GW and MM specifically because they were "weak coaches" that would allow him to stick his nose in every thing. Now, I probably misspoke when I said "never"... 5 years is a long time and I easily missed 10's of thousands of posts. However, when this subject IS broached - the "weak coach" theory has been associated with job security, not meddling tendencies.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/...ew/si/steelers/ "To improve an attack that ranked among the league's worst in total and passing yards, and scoring, Donahoe brought 14 offensive linemen to camp, the most ever during his seven-year tenure. After only two days of practice, however, he was down to 10. "That's the kind of thing that makes you old before your time," Donahoe says. "We wanted to improve the line because, frankly, if you can't block people, it doesn't really matter what your skill players can do.""

that is the logical conclusion to the whole "weak coach/protect job" argument, which is why that line of reason is silly. Maybe he wanted to meddle and maybe established coaches would reject that, but he certainly didn't see out MM because of some concocted theory of power struggle avoidance.

No, he was Director of Football Operations. He was not President. With Buffalo he was the top dog - there was no one within the power structure of the team above him but an elderly owner. His only advesary was failure. What YOU are saying is that in order to keep his job safe he pursued the only avenue that cost him his job.

OK, "demanded" was my word, and it may not have gone down like that, but I think it was something he desired. Now, the rest of your post may be true, but it can have different interpretations. The point I am railing against is the "to avoid power struggle, must hire butt boy to keep job safe". That isn't the picture you painted above. What you painted above was someone who wanted to be involved in every aspect of the team. That argument is never made, but the former one has been made every day since he the fans turned on GW.

People keep bringing it up - even today.... just had to let one last post out of my fingers before I let it go.

But the two aren't related. MM could be the biggest kitty walking the sidelines, but it doesn't mean TD had that trait as a requirement. In essence, people are trying to say that to save TD's job he would only hire these pussies who were doomed to fail, thus costing him job.... This is not a Shakespearian tragedy... He demanded power when he was hired. He wasn't GM - he was team president.

he dotted that "i" when he demanded to be team president. The ONLY thing that would cost him his job was failure on the field - no coach was going to supplant him.

it makes my skin crawl everytime I read that junior high assertion... TD was the fuggin' President of the Buffalo Bills and had unprecedented power in the organization. He was NOT going to lose ANY power struggle with anyone he brought into town... he had as much power as he could possibly of had w/o actually owning the team. Just wanted to get that off my chest...

Isn't this becoming a habit with him? Every time he has the opportunity to deny that he is being considered a coach for the Bills - he plays the "word" game and allows speculation to run rampant. My pop psycho-analysis says Levy desparately want attention, so he longs to hear people chant his name.... especially after being denied re-entry into the NFL after so many years.

it is a shot from Shallow Hal. Sort of my statement that some people see Marv in a different light than others....

yep. it was the 1st thing that crossed my mind.