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Color me confused...

I think he agreed with me - no?

We did the same thing in 5th grade. Our teacher had a blue eyes/brown eyes "experiment" where he declared that all blue-eyed students were to be beholdent to the demands of the brown eyed students. We (I have blue eyes - girls take note ) were to do as we were told - throw out their trash at lunch, sit quietly when told, etc... We were also treated (mistreated) by the teacher in the same way. In fact, during class the teacher made some reference that no one could list all the teams in the American League (I assume this was a setup). I had my hand raised for about 15 minutes before he would even acknowledge me - at which point he belittled my intelligence for having blue-eyes, etc... Bottom line is that I won an ice cream at lunch for naming all the AL teams. The whole point was to teach us about discrimination.

one may also want to take into account season "1" for each new hire. There is something to be said for a team that needs a new coach and may be in a bit of disarray when the new guy comes in.

Don't bother Tom... apparently this is just going over people's heads. I know what you are saying.

how about it was just an asinine anectdote used to illustrate DJ's player's coach mentality?

I thought the same thing. The way the story was going I thought FOR SURE he was going to float him the money...

One slight caveat I would put in there is some sort of figure of merit for their performance as a coordinator. Shanahan and Belichek were lights out coordinators and to me - that skews things a little. Great write up though!

I'm not sure if you are including me in that bunch, but I have not made any proclamations of guaranteed failure in the future. I have no idea what will happen. Hell, a team can go 13-3 by playing a schedule full of pussies. You never know how it will play out... I think this decision can be hammered today without having to know what is in store for the future. You can go over the falls in a barrel, survive, and it can still be a dumb ass thing to do. Just because a situation ultimately works out doesn't mean the decision making process was a good one. Today, I am hammering this decision because I think it was piss poor one by Marv Levy. I see precious few reasons why this guy gets a 2nd chance. It borders on the absurd. With that said - maybe we go 12-4 next season, but I doubt it. Most HC's fail, so I am no Kreskin by guessing DJ will fail too. I tend to think that most NFL cities are the same... Levy is the one who should be piled on, not DJ - unless pointing out his history of mediocrity is piling on. Sure he would. His history of dominating defenses followed him where ever he went. We was on 2 SB winning staffs, coached in a 3rd one. Almost took another team (Jets) to a 4th. He isn't on the same planet as DJ.

So, in your estimation - Dick Jauron is on par with Bill Belichek?

well Chris, I guess we are all winners then, since apparently there are no losers in your world.

basically, what you are saying is that the less our HC is involved with the team - the better chance we have? Nice... I love this hire more and more! It sounds like the old middle management joke. Clueless people get promoted, so that they are removed from the productive stream of the company.

I'm going to fuggin' puke if another person pulls that 13-3 season out of their ass. They won how many miracle games because of Mike Brown? How many of thiose teams had winning records?

I doubt that is the case. If a thorough analysis was done, I bet you will see that for the most part - losers are losers and every now and then someone starts slow and turns it on. BB is the exception. It reminds me of the Winfield argument when everyone pointed to Darryl Green as justification for drafting a 5'6" CB.

well, your entire post is contradicted by your 1st assertion. GW is the ULTIMATE system's coach. He has his way of implementing a defense and he will pound the crap out of that square peg until it is crammed into that round hole. That is one of the reason's he is despised around here.

apparently you are easily confused then.

How do you figure? Throw Dick Jauron in that bunch and he fits tighter than an airbrushed bikini.

but that argument suggests that past success is actually a poor indicator of future success. I never understood Mariucci's appeal, so that isn't a good anectdote with me.

all kidding aside, in the world of active coaches, it is hard to find someone with a worse track record than Jauron.

ONE report said "could"... that is it. I don't see how anyone draws any conclusion from that.

who would we have chosen? Geez, it seems DJ would be on the short list of candidates - no?

WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT GREG OLSON HAS BEEN HIRED!

if this is accurate then I am officially freaked out.

no where does it say "probably". They said "could". As in Marv COULD have hired a coach with some semblence of success, but he didn't...

actually, they had two pro-bowl OL that year. Of course, it is not hard to look good when you play a JV schedule.