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that last paragraph dealt with the earlier votes, but whatever - I'm just saying you can't blow off the charge against him because he said it's not true and accept his reason for it. There is a lot more to it. as for the last part - your answer scares me as much as Palin supposedly scares other people. The entire problem with Obama is that he is a smart person with slick rhetoric, yet no one wants to contrast that picture with what (little) he has actually done. Smart people can say anything. They can manipulate you all day long. However, it is your past record that either supports or detracts from your rhetoric. I know everyone on the left wants to blow off William Ayers. I find that incomprehensible. Can you imagine if Palin was associated with anyone that bombed an abortion clinic? Do you have ANY idea what kind of sh-- storm that would cause? Yet there is the elephant in the room that no one wants to talk about. There are lots of these characters in Obama's past, yet time and again he has to disavow them. No one cares. No one cares that he has no one to vouch for his actions on the past. He's married to a woman who flat out hates America. She's a friggin' psycho. He marries someone who hates this country, he goes to church to listen to someone who hates this country, he raises money for people who bombed buildings, and yet no one cares. All these nutjobs that he surrounded himself with his entire life. Yet, no one cares. Because he talks nicely. I mean, WTF? It is the only thing we have to judge his words by - and no one voting for him really cares.

I didn't say that. The phrase I responded to was: "deserves everything she's getting" and that is a different story. Of course she deserves to be scrutinized, but it didn't have to come with inane BS that was thrown her way.

It is much more complicated than that: http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/ob...nfanticide.html but you see, that is what you get when you support intellectuals for the sake of intellectuals. You start arguing over the meaning of "is" and whether a bill is "exactly" the same to provide cover for one's self. Intellectuals can be just as dangerous as those "stupid" people you are so tired of.

why does she deserve it? because she was asked to be VP? She was asked to help serve her party/country and she said yes. Because of this she "deserves everything she's getting"??? What a bunch of crap. She didn't seek out anything. She didn't lobby for the job. She was happy being Governor of Alaska. She downplayed every attempt of people linking her to the VP position. Obama, Biden, and McCain are the ones who made the concerted effort this cycle for national office. They are the ones who asked for, and thus deserve the anal exam. The only thing you can hold against her is that she said "yes" when asked to help. For that she has received far more scrutiny, far more slander, far more mud-slinging, far more personal intrusion than the person actually running to be president. If that isn't back-asswards I don't know what is. As for being a complete dunce, perhaps you could post your resume and we'll compare your accomplishments to hers...

We'll see. Obama told Planned Parenthood that his 1st act in office would be to sign the Freedom of Choice Act (introduced 1st in 2007) that strips every single state law regulating abortion that more than 70% of the states have enacted. I relish that debate. If the press had any !@#$ing balls what-so-ever - they would press this "intelligent man" to explain how he would not have supported the Born Alive Infants Protection Act, a bill that passed 98-0 in the Senate (including support by Barbara Boxer) and how he voted against it 3x as a state senator in Illinois. There is no law, no funding restriction, not even restrictions protecting a live baby separated from their mother that this extremist (by any definition of the word) would support. He is a radical's radical and I think you will see that bill come up for a vote, though I doubt it will ever reach his desk.

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be careful what you wish for. It happened in 1992 and it devastated your party for over a decade.

Actually, you make some very good points. With the financial mess we are in - the next President is not going to hit the ground running. They are going to have a steel ball around their ankle. The question is - what will the state of the economy be in 4 years? Or even 2 years for that matter? Ask Bill Clinton what the 1st two years of a presidency can do to you. Now, I'm not going to make any kind of prediction, but a protracted economic mess is the perfect setup for a 1 term president. As for Palin 2012. Too soon. 1st, we have to see what the outcome of this election is going to be. If she loses, the next question is if she liked the national stage or despised it. She didn't seek the VP position - she was asked. The question now becomes, does she want more? If she loses, but wants more - 2012 is far too soon for her and maybe 2016 is so far out, she'll be long forgotten. However, anyone who doesn't see the talent (as raw as it may be) is a fool. I suspect she'll do her governor thing and then rake in money from speeches until someone new comes along. I don't have a sense that she's had plans to do anything beyond making a difference in her corner of the world.

Speaking of low rent... I'm not even going to dignify it with a rebuttal.

regardless, it was a stupid reference to make. That asinine video is disturbing/creepy enough to stand on it's own, yet you give people an opportunity to avoid addressing the video and instead address your characterization. As Jonah Goldberg wrote today on NRO - all any of us need to know about your politics is what you think of that video.

So, your stance is that the quote from the democrat aide is a lie?

That is as naive an assertion as one can make.

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=13967

that may be true, I don't know, but the foundation was laid long before GB came into office. Risky loans are risky loans no matter who the loans are given to. This is not me defending GWB so much (I have little support for the man), but this whole blaming this crisis on the last 8 years is appalling. If the NY Times has their own article in the business section on this in 1999 - where is the front page article highlighting this? If we have video of Barney Frank declaring how there is no problem over at Freddie/Fannie - why isn't the media hammering him? Instead he gets to help lead this Bill? Seriously? People are ok with how this is being spun on GWB? Their hatred for him is so intense that they will ignore the reality of the situation?

This just speaks to the complete failure of George Bush's economic policies. He wasn't even president yet and he still managed to #$%^$#^ it up!

If you say so....

I'm not acting like anything. I responded to the silly notion that "the Washington Post and NYT do alright" and was met with criticism of Fox News. Well, I never mentioned Fox News and if the Times and Post is someone's definition of unbiased reporting then I would like to see what the heck constitutes biased reporting. WRT to the WP article, I thought it was the headline, but regardless - it was reported on page A1 like I said. It was a 15 year old reference....

I slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night....

I apologize for the silly, ancient reference, but when I used to argue this stuff all the time in the 90's that is what came to mind.

I was going to post something similar, but decided to pass...

You know - you don't have to dismiss everything the other side of the aisle says. Why don't you keep your own scorecard? Why not just take notice of certain events that would appear to be of equal magnitude and see how they are reported? For instance, Oliver North once told a joke using a gay voice. Where was it reported? Front page Washington Post above the fold. Vice President Gore, around the same time, called Republicans the "extra chromosome party". What page do you think that made? I think it was a small article on page 14. Note that neither one was newsworthy, but front page above the fold? Really? When the issue of abortion is discussed (or any other topic that has advocates), why not make note of which organizations are asked for their opinion? While I don't have current numbers, NOW was ALWAYS asked (membership around 200k), while Concerned Women of America (membership 600k) is NEVER asked. Try finding an editorial in either paper that endorses a Republican. Piss on Fox News all you want, that doesn't make either paper less biased.

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I think he was referring to you....

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