'“I don’t want to label that guy as a pass rusher. He’s an every-down player. The guy I’m familiar with that he reminds me of is Shaun Ellis. Shaun Ellis has that great size and great twitch. He played a long time in the NFL. Could’ve played 4-3, could’ve played 3-4. And Charles Grant. He’s another guy who had pass-rush ability but he could play the run and was just a big, physical end.”'