‘ It’s hard to tell how close you are because you continue to have to fight. The first time is usually the most difficult time because you’re trying to change the culture and maybe some poor habits you’ve gotten accustomed to because you’ve lost so much. Those things are always a process and always according to change. You always have to keep going forward and keep fighting and then you look back and say, ‘Okay, this is what we were able to do to do that.’ You never know exactly what was the piece or players or what you may have or scheme or what you may do, so you just have to keep working and going forward and know what you believe in and keep fighting.’